Hi Ian, Thanks for trying Yes I did have that info. I haven't followed through with the grandchildren on the census but it's something I can work on. Thanks again Angela

No, Alice, I'm sorry. I do not have anything on Jane/Jean Stuart/Stewart. Susan Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- From: Woody and Alice [mailto:almyers@tenforward.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:24 AM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MORAY] Inveravon Do you have anything on Jane/Jean STURAT/STEWART born about Feb 1804 in Inveravon. Parents were Lewis and Elizabeth. Thank you Alice Myers Sequim, WA almyers@tenforward.com Hi Everyone, Just to let you know which 0f the > following databases i have > been working on. > > > Aberlour Baptisms 1703 - 1854 > Births 1855 - > 1905 > > Banns 1708 - > 1854 > Marriages 1855 - > 1905 ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

G'day Cobbers, Have some information on my McLEAN ancestry on my homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS Below is part of an email from a third cousin of mine, recently "discovered", which relates to the GRANT surname: "Yes this Bella (McLEAN) is the one we are interested in. She is the daughter of Charles McLean and Elspet Dean hence my mother's aunt. She married David Grant and they had one daughter also called Bella. It was she who went to Australia about 1949ish but she was married by then and as yet I have not found her married name. A couple of years later her parents Bella and David followed her out and remained there where they presumably died. I have no idea where they settled but I believe most emigrants then went to Melbourne and Sydney. Bella Grant may still be alive and would be about 84 yrs old now. No 34 Royston Mains Crescent Edinburgh, where Elspet Dean died was the home of Charles McLean and Marjory Wilson {my mothers parents} and Elspet Dean lived with them for the last 3 years of her life. Previously to this she lived at 10 Caledonian Crescent Edinburgh. Royston Mains Crescent was also where my parents lived when I was born so was my first home." Is anybody able to assist me with the surname of Bella GRANT's husband. I am trying to trace this family in Australia but need Bella's married name. Look forward to hearing from any McLEAN relatives. Regards Greg Baldwin Dip.BusStud(Acc) CIT BBus (Comp) Deakin Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au

G'day Cobbers, I have reason to believe that John McLEAN b. 08 Sep 1867, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland [Parents: Charles & Mary (nee CLARK) McLEAN], is to be found in the Elgin area, where he was living, working and possibly died. I don't know if he married or if he had any children. Any information or assistance with my g-g uncle would be greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Helen's Stolen Generation Radio Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

G'day Cobbers, Looking at making contact with anybody related to the families mentioned below in order to obtain further information on these families. Descendants of Elspet DEAN & Charles McLEAN 1. Charles McLEAN , b. 15 Sep 1860 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 27 May 1933 in Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// Informant son John McLean, 50 Dalmeny Street, Edinburgh, Scotland>. He married Elspet (Elsie) DEAN , b. 10 Sep 1858 in Elgin, Moray Scotland, (daughter of Alexander DEAN and Isabella MELVIN ) christened 16 Sep 1858 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland, d. 06 Oct 1946 in 34 Royston Main Crescent, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// Informant to death son George D McLean, 7 Piershill Square, Edinburgh, Scotland>. 1.1. Charles (Pappa) McLEAN , b. 01 Feb 1893 in 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. He married Margery Murray WILSON , (daughter of James WILSON and Margaret BLAIK ). 1.1.1. Margaret Blaik McLEAN , b. 15 Nov 1920 in 11 South Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. She married James WHITE , b. Abt 1919, (son of Walter Blackie WHITE and Agnes Ramsay VALLANCE ). 1.1.2. Elspeth Dean McLEAN . 1.1.3. John McLEAN . 1.1.4. William Dean McLEAN , b. Abt 1923, d. 19 Jul 1944, buried in Grave/Memorial Reference I. A. 13., Banneville-La-Campagne War Cemetery, France. 1.1.5. David Grant McLEAN. 1.1.6. Norah Garvie McLEAN. 1.1.7. Flora June McLEAN. 1.2. Isabella Melvin (Bella) McLEAN, b. 02 Mar 1894 in South Street, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. She married David GRANT. 1.2.1. Bella GRANT. 1.3. Alexander McLEAN, b. 14 Nov 1895 in 11 Batchen Lane, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. 1.4. John Jenkins McLEAN, b. 22 Nov 1896 in 20 Batchen Lane, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. 1.5. Robert Clark McLEAN, b. 10 Mar 1898 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 13 Feb 1899 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. 1.6. George Dean McLEAN, b. 23 Oct 1902 in 3 Greenside Road, Edinburgh, Scotland, d. 10 Jul 1965 in 4 Greendykes Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// Informant their son G. D. McLean, 7 Wester Broom Avenue, Edinburgh, Scotland // On the west of Edinburgh near the Gyle >. He married Mary SIMPSON. 1.6.1. G D McLEAN, b. in Scotland. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, Eng BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT BROWN - Wellington, NZ CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LANGDON - NZ LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, Eng. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand Helen's Stolen Generation Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

G'day Cobbers, Am trying to locate my g-g aunt, Jane Brodie McLEAN, b. 25 Oct 1872, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland [Parents: Charles & Mary (nee CLARK) McLEAN. The last reference that I have on her is when she was the informant on his death certificate for her father, Charles McLEAN, which states that she was living at 98 Drayton Park, Highbury, North London, in March, 1902. Any assistance in locating her would be greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Dip.BusStud(Acc) CIT BBus (Comp) Deakin Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au

Karen wrote: > What parish was Findhorn about 1800 and has it ever > changed its boundaries? Findhorn is in the parish of Kinloss. There were big rearrangements of some of the more southerly parts of Moray in 1870, and various changes in 1891, but so far as I know, there have been none affecting Kinloss. Gavin Bell

I am actually descended through Joseph Melvin,Isabella's brother. here is isabella's biography from Libindx Bio Biography Details Reference No.: NM041569 Surname: DEAN Forename(s):ISABELLA Maiden Name: MELVIN Date of Birth: 23 DEC 1818 Place of Birth: ELGIN Father's Name:GEORGE MELVIN MILLER OLDMILLS ELGIN( See NM258883) Mother's Name: ELSPET MITCHELL( See NM126673) Marriage Details Spouses Name: ALEXANDER DEAN SHOEMAKER Marriage Narrative: PARENTS OF GEORGE & ALEXANDER & ELSPETH & JOHN & JESSIE YOUNG & GEORGE DEAN Death Details Date of Death:31 JAN 1897 Age:77 Place of Death:20 BATCHEN LANE ELGIN NewspaperArticlesNewspaperDescriptionDatePage/Column NS death 06/02/1897 1/1 Miscellaneous Article Date Description Miscellaneous 1896-1897 entry in register of poor for parish of Elgin - MF D EL19 [GRC archives - ZPEL A5/102 p1223] 1881 census entry - Elgin ED 8 p20 Karen Donald --- Greg Baldwin <kennethb@melbpc.org.au> wrote: > G'day Cobbers, > > Looking at making contact with anybody related to > the families mentioned > below in order to obtain further information on > these families. > > Descendants of Elspet DEAN & Charles McLEAN > > 1. Charles McLEAN , b. 15 Sep 1860 in Garmouth, > Moray, Scotland, d. 27 May > 1933 in > Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// > Informant son John McLean, 50 > Dalmeny Street, > Edinburgh, Scotland>. > > He married Elspet (Elsie) DEAN , b. 10 Sep 1858 > in Elgin, Moray > Scotland, (daughter of > Alexander DEAN and Isabella MELVIN ) > christened 16 Sep 1858 in Elgin, > Moray, > Scotland, d. 06 Oct 1946 in 34 Royston Main > Crescent, Edinburgh, > Scotland, <// Informant > to death son George D McLean, 7 Piershill > Square, Edinburgh, Scotland>. > > 1.1. Charles (Pappa) McLEAN , b. 01 Feb 1893 in 51 > South Street, Elgin, > Scotland. > > He married Margery Murray WILSON , (daughter of > James WILSON and > Margaret BLAIK ). > > 1.1.1. Margaret Blaik McLEAN , b. 15 Nov 1920 in > 11 South Street, > Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. > > She married James WHITE , b. Abt 1919, (son of > Walter > Blackie WHITE and Agnes Ramsay VALLANCE ). > > 1.1.2. Elspeth Dean McLEAN . > > 1.1.3. John McLEAN . > > 1.1.4. William Dean McLEAN , b. Abt 1923, d. 19 > Jul 1944, buried in > Grave/Memorial Reference I. A. 13., > Banneville-La-Campagne War Cemetery, > France. > > 1.1.5. David Grant McLEAN. > > 1.1.6. Norah Garvie McLEAN. > > 1.1.7. Flora June McLEAN. > > 1.2. Isabella Melvin (Bella) McLEAN, b. 02 Mar > 1894 in South Street, > Elgin, Elgin, > Scotland. > > She married David GRANT. > > 1.2.1. Bella GRANT. > > 1.3. Alexander McLEAN, b. 14 Nov 1895 in 11 Batchen > Lane, Elgin, Elgin, > Scotland. > > 1.4. John Jenkins McLEAN, b. 22 Nov 1896 in 20 > Batchen Lane, Elgin, Elgin, > Scotland. > > 1.5. Robert Clark McLEAN, b. 10 Mar 1898 in > Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. > 13 Feb 1899 > in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. > > 1.6. George Dean McLEAN, b. 23 Oct 1902 in 3 > Greenside Road, Edinburgh, > Scotland, d. 10 > Jul 1965 in 4 Greendykes Terrace, > Edinburgh, Scotland, <// > Informant their son G. D. > McLean, 7 Wester Broom Avenue, Edinburgh, > Scotland // On the west > of Edinburgh > near the Gyle >. > > He married Mary SIMPSON. > > 1.6.1. G D McLEAN, b. in Scotland. > > Regards > > Greg Baldwin > Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia > Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ > Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au > All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by > VET Anti-Virus software. > AIGS 9842 > A&NESFHS 9933 > KFHS 7736 > Researching Surnames: > ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. > BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ > BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS > BENTON - Warwick, Eng > BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS > BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT > BROWN - Wellington, NZ > CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT > CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT > COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ > CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ > DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. > FRANCES - AUS > GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT > INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand > INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT > LANGDON - NZ > LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. > LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. > LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand > MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. > MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS > MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > McFADDEN -Down, NIR > McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS > McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS > McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT > McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS > McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS > OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS > RAFFAN - Banff, SCT > REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. > RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, Eng. > ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT > RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS > SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT > SMITH - SCT > SPRENGER - Qld, AUS > STUART - Moray, SCT > WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS > WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ > WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. > WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand > Helen's Stolen Generation Program: > http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. 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Hi Greg I am related to this family.I have quite a lot on the Melvins in that area.They originated from Birnie, close to where i lived.I would be happy to share info.ie Isabella Melvin and Alexander Dean .I have them back 3 more generations. Not all verified but work in progress! Karen Donald --- Greg Baldwin <kennethb@melbpc.org.au> wrote: > G'day Cobbers, > > Looking at making contact with anybody related to > the families mentioned > below in order to obtain further information on > these families. > > Descendants of Elspet DEAN & Charles McLEAN > > 1. Charles McLEAN , b. 15 Sep 1860 in Garmouth, > Moray, Scotland, d. 27 May > 1933 in > Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// > Informant son John McLean, 50 > Dalmeny Street, > Edinburgh, Scotland>. > > He married Elspet (Elsie) DEAN , b. 10 Sep 1858 > in Elgin, Moray > Scotland, (daughter of > Alexander DEAN and Isabella MELVIN ) > christened 16 Sep 1858 in Elgin, > Moray, > Scotland, d. 06 Oct 1946 in 34 Royston Main > Crescent, Edinburgh, > Scotland, <// Informant > to death son George D McLean, 7 Piershill > Square, Edinburgh, Scotland>. > > 1.1. Charles (Pappa) McLEAN , b. 01 Feb 1893 in 51 > South Street, Elgin, > Scotland. > > He married Margery Murray WILSON , (daughter of > James WILSON and > Margaret BLAIK ). > > 1.1.1. Margaret Blaik McLEAN , b. 15 Nov 1920 in > 11 South Street, > Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. > > She married James WHITE , b. Abt 1919, (son of > Walter > Blackie WHITE and Agnes Ramsay VALLANCE ). > > 1.1.2. Elspeth Dean McLEAN . > > 1.1.3. John McLEAN . > > 1.1.4. William Dean McLEAN , b. Abt 1923, d. 19 > Jul 1944, buried in > Grave/Memorial Reference I. A. 13., > Banneville-La-Campagne War Cemetery, > France. > > 1.1.5. David Grant McLEAN. > > 1.1.6. Norah Garvie McLEAN. > > 1.1.7. Flora June McLEAN. > > 1.2. Isabella Melvin (Bella) McLEAN, b. 02 Mar > 1894 in South Street, > Elgin, Elgin, > Scotland. > > She married David GRANT. > > 1.2.1. Bella GRANT. > > 1.3. Alexander McLEAN, b. 14 Nov 1895 in 11 Batchen > Lane, Elgin, Elgin, > Scotland. > > 1.4. John Jenkins McLEAN, b. 22 Nov 1896 in 20 > Batchen Lane, Elgin, Elgin, > Scotland. > > 1.5. Robert Clark McLEAN, b. 10 Mar 1898 in > Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. > 13 Feb 1899 > in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. > > 1.6. George Dean McLEAN, b. 23 Oct 1902 in 3 > Greenside Road, Edinburgh, > Scotland, d. 10 > Jul 1965 in 4 Greendykes Terrace, > Edinburgh, Scotland, <// > Informant their son G. D. > McLean, 7 Wester Broom Avenue, Edinburgh, > Scotland // On the west > of Edinburgh > near the Gyle >. > > He married Mary SIMPSON. > > 1.6.1. G D McLEAN, b. in Scotland. > > Regards > > Greg Baldwin > Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia > Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ > Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au > All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by > VET Anti-Virus software. > AIGS 9842 > A&NESFHS 9933 > KFHS 7736 > Researching Surnames: > ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. > BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ > BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS > BENTON - Warwick, Eng > BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS > BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT > BROWN - Wellington, NZ > CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT > CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT > COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ > CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ > DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. > FRANCES - AUS > GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT > INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand > INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT > LANGDON - NZ > LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. > LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. > LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand > MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. > MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS > MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > McFADDEN -Down, NIR > McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS > McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS > McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT > McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS > McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS > OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS > RAFFAN - Banff, SCT > REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. > RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, Eng. > ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT > RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS > SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT > SMITH - SCT > SPRENGER - Qld, AUS > STUART - Moray, SCT > WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS > WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ > WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. > WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand > Helen's Stolen Generation Program: > http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. 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Hello John, This one seems to come pretty close I think I have here from the OPR birth index as parents of Ann Reid born 15th March 1778, James Reid/Ann Ross in the parish of Urquhart and Glenmoristo. GROS Data 107/00 0001 Perhaps you are searching the same as myself as I believe that you were also looking for Forsyth. I am looking mainly for Taylor, Forsyth and now recently Ann Reid married to Alexander Taylor abt. 1800 Just a chance maybe. Good luck, Tony Savery ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnreid656@msn.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:22 AM Subject: [MORAY] James Reid & Ann Rose > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1287 > > Message Board Post: > > Hello > I'm looking for any information about James Reid born abt 1750 & his wife > Ann Rose born abt 1753 we think they were > born in the Morayshire area. > Thank you > John Reid > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns > about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-admin@rootsweb.com or join > VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi, I have a Kenneth McKenzie whose children were: Charles McGreger McKenzie b. 12 Jul 1856 Drainie, Lossiemouth Margaret McKenzie b. 20 Dec 1860 Lossiemouth. Regards Jill Jones

Hi, If anyone can help. I have a Walter Scott McWilliam b 13 Sep 1852 married Margaret Allison. Walter's parents were James McWilliam and Isabel Christie. Regards Jill Jones

Goodness, I'm just so appreciative of this latest information. Thank you so much again Ray.Never would those old folk of Moray have even imagined they would end up with relatives over the other side of the world in the colonies!! Best wishes for your good work, Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aberloursearch@aol.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY]Banffshire databases update................. > Hello Marie, I can now confirm that all the children listed to John Younie and Elizabeth McRobbie are siblings of your own Elizabeth as well as another sister who was not recorded namely Clementina born c. 1793 in Aberlour. > > The George Younie baptised 28 May 1797 died in Aberlour 28 August 1876 his parents are listed as John Younie and Elizabeth Grant. He was married to Elizabeth Bremner and had at least 3 children that i know about. Namely James 19 September 1838. Elizabeth 24 July 1840 died 8 June 1878 married to David Calder and had one child George born 28 December 1859. > Isabella born 1 September 1842 married John Bowie 16 August 1860 and had one child unnamed born 11 April 1863 died 18 April 1863. > > Hope this helps > > Regards Ray > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/05 > >

What parish was Findhorn about 1800 and has it ever changed it's boundaries? Looking for the Mother of James Fraser born Findhorn about 1822.(Parish of Kinloss) Source 1881 census. Born illegitimate Father James Fraser. Mother no name.( Source death cert held) No Birth found on IGI Occupation Master Carpenter 1881 census Living at Barnhill Farm, Pluscarden,Elgin, James Fraser, Head, M, 57, carpenter, born Findhorn,Elgin, Scotland (bc 1822) Ann , Wife, M, 55, carpenter's wife, born Elgin, Elgin, Scotland(bc 1824) Mary Fraser, Daur, UM 19, born Elgin, Elgin, Scotland, general servant. ( bc 1862) Film 203433 GRO Ref Vol 135 Enum Dist 15 Page 5 Ref No.73456 Elgin, Elgin. (Death cert held) 125 L Page 42 Elgin, Elgin. James Fraser House Carpenter,( Master), illegit ,aged 86, widower of Annie Farquhar. died 12 Aug 1910 at 3 am at Barnhill, Pluscarden, Morayshire of heart disease-unknown.Father James Fraser, mother's name not mentioned.Reg by John Davidson Son in Law. Cert by Donald J Campbell MD.Reg Elgin 13 Aug by Registrar E M Cameron. Pos Nicholson name connection. Look up 1891 census Karen Donald

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1287 Message Board Post: Hello I'm looking for any information about James Reid born abt 1750 & his wife Ann Rose born abt 1753 we think they were born in the Morayshire area. Thank you John Reid

Thank you so much Ray. A lot more food for though over these winter months! Lovely to find a sister for Elizabeth though. Much appreciated, Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aberloursearch@aol.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY]Banffshire databases update................. > Hello Marie, Your Elizabeth Younie daughter of John Younie and Elizabeth > Grant was probably baptised as you think about 1791 Probably in Ruddrie in > Aberlour, although there is no mention of her in the baptism records. > > It is very difficult to be exact except to say that she probably had the > following siblings who were recorded in the registers: > > John Baptised 16 July 1780 in Crofthead > William Baptised 31 January 1788 in Ruddrie witness to this baptism was Jean > Grant alias McRobbie. > George Baptised 28 May 1797 in Hillfolds of Ruddrie > Jean Baptised 23 March 1800 in Aberlour > > The parents of the above children were recorded as John Younie and Elizabeth > McRobbie. > > Some other families of McRobbies were also known as McRobbie alias Grant > although there is no mention of the alias on the above baptisms it is as well to > be regarding this family Could be the same as your John and Elizabeth Grant. > > Another child baptised is however certainly the sister of your Elizabeth > Younie: > > Margaret Younie baptised 20 April 1782 in Derrylain daughter of the above > John Younie and Elizabeth Grant. > > Hope this is of some help in your research > > Regards ray > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing list Admin. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/05 > >

Thanks to Gavin for an interesting account Ray > > From: Sharon <ssusmol@yahoo.ca> > Date: 2005/05/19 Thu AM 03:49:05 GMT+12:00 > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re:[MORAY] Banffshire > > Yes, I remember we already had this discussion about > Banffshire, and Moray concerning my rellie, Charles > Middleton, who was born in Banff, Banffshire, 1797. I > still haven't found him. > > Sharon > --- Gavin Bell <g.bell@which.net> wrote: > > > > Banffshire has long been something of a Cinderella > > among counties, > > always in danger of being swallowed by its bigger > > neighbours. > > > > In ecclesiastical terms, the county never really > > existed. The Kirk of > > Scotland divided the country up into administrative > > districts called > > Synods (being a gouping of Presbyteries, which in > > turn were a grouping > > of Parishes), and while they had different > > boundaries from the counties, > > these did broadly coincide. So Aberdeenshire > > covered much of the same > > ground as the Synod of Aberdeen, and the county of > > Angus largely > > coincided with the Synod of Angus and Mearns. But > > Banffshire never made > > it to Synod status, being divided between the Synods > > of Moray and Aberdeen. > > > > As a civil county (for the administration of > > justice, and other purposes > > connected with the Crown), Banffshire did exist for > > a number of > > centuries, but with very untidy boundaries: until > > 1891, when there was > > a grand tidy-up, some parishes were in more than one > > county, and some > > parts of the county actually existed as islands > > within other counties. > > I have documented these oddities, and their likely > > implications for > > genealogy, on the Banffshire pages of GENUKI > > (www.abdn.net/genuki/BAN). > > > > More recently, Banffshire has, along with all > > Scottish counties, been > > subject to two major reorganisations: in 1974, the > > old counties were > > replaced by a system of "Regions". Banffshire > > (together with > > Aberdeenshire, Kincardine, Moray and the City of > > Aberdeen) was absorbed > > into Grampian Region. 20 years later, the doctine > > of "Big is Beautiful" > > had gone out of fashion, and the Regions were split > > up again. However, > > we did not go back to where we were before. > > Instead, the territory of > > Grampian Region was split into 3: Aberdeen City, > > Aberdeenshire and > > Moray, but "Aberdeenshire" now includes all of > > Kincardine, and the > > eastern half of Banffshire. Similarly, "Moray" has > > absorbed the western > > parts of Banffshire. > > > > As a result of all these changes, finding the > > archives which might > > contain information on one's ancestors is, to say > > the least, complicated. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you ;-) > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hello Marie, I can now confirm that all the children listed to John Younie and Elizabeth McRobbie are siblings of your own Elizabeth as well as another sister who was not recorded namely Clementina born c. 1793 in Aberlour. The George Younie baptised 28 May 1797 died in Aberlour 28 August 1876 his parents are listed as John Younie and Elizabeth Grant. He was married to Elizabeth Bremner and had at least 3 children that i know about. Namely James 19 September 1838. Elizabeth 24 July 1840 died 8 June 1878 married to David Calder and had one child George born 28 December 1859. Isabella born 1 September 1842 married John Bowie 16 August 1860 and had one child unnamed born 11 April 1863 died 18 April 1863. Hope this helps Regards Ray

NEPTUNE? Take your pick... I have a note of a 1780 newspaper reference to a NEPTUNE of Portsoy with a master named Elder. In a 1790 newspaper is a reference to a NEPTUNE of Banff with master named Stewart. At that time the vessels of the Banff coast would have been registered at Aberdeen and checking my Aberdeen records I see that there was a 70 ton NEPTUNE registered number 129th in the 1786/87 list and also an 82 ton NEPTUNE registered number 139th. {the Moray ports further west (Findhorn, Spey, Kingston Port, Burghead) would have been registered at Inverness) In 1788 a 111 ton NEPTUNE was built in Aberdeen In 1790 a neswpaper makes reference to an Aberdeen NEPTUNE with master named Stewart [probably the same vessel noted as Banff earlier] In December 1795 a 73 ton NEPTUNE was registered at Aberdeen having changed her registry from Inverness but referenced as being 'of Kingston Port'. In 1796 a 282 ton NEPTUNE was built in Aberdeen, to be followed 1797 by a 145 ton NEPTUNE also built at Aberdeen. On 31 December 1799 a NEPTUNE from Aberdeen stranded at Bay of Nigg, near Aberdeen whilst under the command of Captain Gibbon. This may be the same vessel referenced as being wrecked at Belhelvie on the 21st. In 1801 a 130 ton brig NEPTUNE was built at Aberdeen and it was in 1801 that Banff became a registry port in it's own right. By 1820 there is a reference to a 71 ton sloop NEPTUNE registered at Banff, having been built at Garmouth in 1815. In 1820 her masters name was Milne. I am not sure how long the earlier registration in Aberdeen would have remained at Aberdeen. I suspect that it would only have been when a vessel changed hands that it would have been necessary to re-register at Banff. e.g. An 1803 reference to a NEPTUNE with master Jameson might have been from Aberdeen but may also have belonged to one of the Moray ports. Likewise the sloop NEPTUNE that stranded in 1808 but got off. By 1813 Aberdeen had a whaler named NEPTUNE being a 282 ton vessel built in 1796 at Aberdeen. The records show her to have had continuous presence on the register from at least 1803 to 1824. This doesn't quite square with a NEPTUNE that was on the Montrose register from 1813 before coming to Aberdeen in 1819 and then moving to Dublin in 1822. Both would have been on the register in 1820 but in a snap-shot recording of vessels in that year there is only reference to there being one vessel of that name, the 282 ton vessel. So, a common name and just to add to the mix...in December 1808 a Swedish brig NEPTUNE was wrecked on Benbecula under the command of Captain Knupple. Ian P.S. Howard, if I sent the info about your 1835 NEPTUNE the 'OS' reference could well have been my 'Outside Scotland' code, i.e. outside the scope of my research at the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Geddes <hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [MORAY] Re: Moray Pirates? > Hi Kaj, > All I can add about 'local-to-Moray' ships named Neptune is this: "Neptune > (sloop) built 1825 63 tons masters: J. Scott and Chalmers. Lost pre 26 > November 1835 OS." (I don't know what OS means.) > > I wouldn't know whether the name Neptune would be carried from ship to > ship - being the name it is, I should think it turns up all over the place > so little inference could be gleaned from its appearance. > > I looked to see if I had anything relevant re the Innes name - nothing I'm > afraid. > > Again, George Smith is not an uncommon name, so all I can do is note its > occurrence. Maybe one day we'll discover that the enslaved George Smith > managed to pay his way free, and is the East India Co man who provided of > Fordyce Academy's "George Smith Bounty". > > Regards Howard > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you ;-) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Ray Thanks for the 1861 Census information. It confirms my thoughts that George Baillie Sr died sometime before 1861 and as I have not found his death on Scotlandspeople it suggests it was before 1855. So the possibilities have been reduced to a period of three or four years and that is a big help. Once again many thanks Ian