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    1. Family of Charles Stuart
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stewart/STUART Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BgC.2ACI/1288 Message Board Post: Need help finding parents of Charles Stuart, b. 1806 in "Sutherland Shire," according to his handwritten obit. Question: Did parts of Morayshire ever belong to Sutherlandshire? Charles left Scotland for Nova Scotia in 1816 at age of 10 to live with father's brother, John Stuart, who was listed as being from "parish of Plymouth, county of Moray." Someone has suggested that Plymouth is most likely Speymouth. Other family names are Mary, May, Alexander. HELP! Am I even asking the right questions?

    05/22/2005 02:44:37
    1. McLEAN Surname
    2. Greg Baldwin
    3. G'day Cobbers, Would like to hear from anybody connected to this family, as below: McLEAN, WILLIAM DEAN Initials: W D Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment: King's Own Scottish Borderers Unit Text: 1st Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 19/07/1944 Service No: 2887487 Additional information: Son of Charles and Marjorie Murray Wilson McLean, of Granton, Edinburgh. The above persons are part of my McLEAN ancestry. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, Eng BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT BROWN - Wellington, NZ CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LANGDON - NZ LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, Eng. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WARBURTON - New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.apology.west.net.au/

    05/22/2005 02:33:52
    1. ROBERTSON & McLEAN Surnames
    2. Greg Baldwin
    3. G'day Cobbers, Below is part of my McLEAN ancestry & I would be pleased to hear from anyone with connections to this family. Descendants of Mary Ann ROBERTSON & Alexander McLEAN Alexander McLEAN, b. 18 Jun 1876 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 27 May 1937. He married Mary Ann ROBERTSON, married 24 Jan 1905 in St. Peter's Roman Catholic Church, b. Abt 1879, (daughter of George ROBERTSON and Jane GIFFORD). I. Robert McLEAN, b. Abt 1905, d. Abt 1964. II. Jean McLEAN, b. Abt 1907 in Scotland, d. Abt 1954 in Scotland. She married Robert FORBES, married in Scotland. A. Alexander McLEAN, b. in Scotland. B. Robert McLEAN, b. in Scotland. III. Mary McLEAN, b. Abt 1908 in Scotland, d. Abt 1926 in Scotland. IV. Charles McLEAN, b. Abt 1910 in Scotland, d. Abt 1984 in Scotland. He married Isobel McLEAN, married in Scotland. A. Charles McLEAN, b. Abt 1946 in Scotland, d. Abt 1988 in Scotland. He married Janet FINNIE, married in Scotland. 1. Ross McLEAN, (details excluded). He married UNKNOWN. a. Bethany McLEAN, (details excluded). B. Mary McLEAN, (details excluded). C. Myra McLEAN, (details excluded). She married Charles WILSON. 1. Lesley WILSON, (details excluded). 2. Murray WILSON, (details excluded). V. Ruby McLEAN, b. Abt 1912. She married ? DICK, married in Scotland. A. Evelyn (Eva) DICK, b. 00 Dec 1942. She married Kenneth SCOTT, married in Scotland. 1. Julie SCOTT, (details excluded). 2. Kenneth (Kenny) SCOTT, (details excluded). He married UNKNOWN. a. David SCOTT, b. in Scotland. b. Nicole SCOTT, b. in Scotland. 3. David McLean SCOTT. He married UNKNOWN, married in Scotland. a. Brendan SCOTT, b. in Scotland. b. Lauren SCOTT, b. in Scotland. VI. Eva McLEAN, b. Abt 1916 in Scotland, d. Abt 2000 in Scotland. VII. Alexander (Tyke) McLEAN, b. Abt 1918 in Scotland, d. Abt 1986 in Scotland. He married Helen (Nellie) SUTHERLAND, married in Scotland. A. Alistair McLEAN, (details excluded). He married Irene CRAIB. 1. Brian McLEAN, b. Abt 1971/72 in Scotland. He married Wendy SHEPARD, married in Scotland. a. Marti McLEAN, (details excluded). B. Gordon Robertson McLEAN, (details excluded). He married Annabella Maria SULEN, (details excluded) in Banffshire, Scotland. 1. Annie Marie McLEAN, (details excluded). She married Colin MEARNS. a. Hayley MEARNS, (details excluded). b. Cheryl MEARNS, (details excluded). 2. Karen McLEAN, (details excluded). She married Michall WADDLE. a. Jason WADDLE, (details excluded). b. Samantha WADDLE, (details excluded). 3. Gordon Olai McLEAN, (details excluded). 4. Mark McLEAN, b. 30 Sep 1975 in Scotland, d. 30 Nov 1977 in Scotland. C. Fiona McLEAN, (details excluded). She married Dale ROBERTSON. 1. Shauni ROBERTSON, (details excluded). Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.apology.west.net.au/

    05/22/2005 02:33:52
    1. McLEAN Surname
    2. Greg Baldwin
    3. G'day Cobbers, Am researching my McLEAN ancestry and would like to hear from anybody who has connections with the following family: Descendants of Margery Murray WILSON & Charles McLEAN Charles (Pappa) McLEAN, b. 01 Feb 1893 in 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. He married Margery Murray WILSON, (daughter of James WILSON and Margaret BLAIK). I. Margaret Blaik McLEAN. She married James WHITE, (son of Walter Blackie WHITE and Agnes Ramsay VALLANCE). II. Elspeth Dean McLEAN. III. John McLEAN. IV. William Dean McLEAN, b. Abt 1923, d. 19 Jul 1944, buried: in Grave/Memorial Reference I. A. 13., Banneville-La-Campagne War Cemetery. V. David Grant McLEAN. VI. Norah Garvie McLEAN. VII. Flora June McLEAN. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.apology.west.net.au/

    05/22/2005 02:33:52
    1. Re: James Reid & Ann Rose
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1287.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Anne Thankyou for the information John Reid

    05/21/2005 05:39:28
    1. McLEAN Surname
    2. Greg Baldwin
    3. G'day Ray, Wondering if you can help me with two members of my MCLEAN ancestry. 1. John McLEAN b. 08 Sep 1867, Garmouth Moray Scotland (Parents: Charles McLEAN & Mary CLARK). I believe that he may be in the Elgin area. 2. Jane Brodie McLEAN b. 25 Oct 1872, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland (Parents: Charles McLEAN & Mary CLARK). Any help greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Helen's Stolen Generation Radio Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

    05/21/2005 05:05:05
    1. Fw: WW1 Medal Index Cards
    2. Ray Hennessy
    3. Hi Folks Just seen the following brilliant message via the Lanarkshire List from Nancy Robb: > Hi List, > These Important cards are now finally in the care of The > Western Front Association. Google that name for the details. Well done > all those who "raised the roof" over their proposed destruction. > Nancy Just want to add my "well done" to all you nor-easters who also bombarded the PRO about this. Ray Hennessy

    05/21/2005 01:09:36
    1. Re: [MORAY] Banff?
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. > Thank you, Anne. That was an easy puzzle solved. :-) > > I assume the parish has never changed, even though the > county boundaries have? I am looking way back to 1797. > This is my first time venturing into Scottish > research. I would not assume that - it can get very complicated indeed, especially when people don't realise that everything was subjected to a great upheaval in 1975. Actually the best guide is undoubtedly the details of parish boundaries and county boundaries in Banffshire at www.genuki.org.uk - follow the links through Scotland, to county, to parish. Anne

    05/21/2005 11:32:30
    1. Re: [MORAY] Banff?
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. > Can anyone tell me what parish the town of Banff is in? > Sharon The town of Banff is in the parish of Banff, which is in the county of Banff. Since 1975 the county of Banff has been divided between Moray and latterly Aberdeenshire for purposes of local government. The parish and therefore town of Banff are in the bit which is now Aberdeenshire. From 1975 to 1992 it was in Banff and Buchan District. Anne

    05/21/2005 10:55:18
    1. Re: [MORAY] Banff?
    2. Sharon
    3. Okay, Anne. I'll wander over there, and have a look. Sharon Anne Burgess <anne.burgess@btinternet.com> wrote: I would not assume that - it can get very complicated indeed, especially when people don't realise that everything was subjected to a great upheaval in 1975. Actually the best guide is undoubtedly the details of parish boundaries and county boundaries in Banffshire at www.genuki.org.uk - follow the links through Scotland, to county, to parish. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

    05/21/2005 09:14:28
    1. Re: James Reid & Ann Rose
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1287.1.2 Message Board Post: The seat of the Clan Rose is Kilravock Castle (pronounced Kil-rawk to rhyme with 'hawk') and it is on the north (right) bank of the River Nairn about six miles south-west of the town of Nairn and ten miles north-east of the city of Inverness. Tomatin is 17 miles south of Inverness on the A9. It takes about 20 minutes to get there from Inverness. It is 26 miles from Kilravock Castle to Tomatin, and takes 35-40 minutes. Nairn doesn't qualify as a city, and Tomatin isn't big enough to be described as a town!

    05/21/2005 07:08:06
    1. Re: James Reid & Ann Rose
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1287.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ron Thankyou for the information. I will look into the Rose family you mentioned. That would also be a step up for James Reid as his descendants were mainly farmers from Urquhart, Morayshire. Regards John Reid British Columbia Canada

    05/21/2005 06:32:18
    1. Re: [MORAY] Banff?
    2. Sharon
    3. Thank you, Anne. That was an easy puzzle solved. :-) I assume the parish has never changed, even though the county boundaries have? I am looking way back to 1797. This is my first time venturing into Scottish research. Sharon --- Anne Burgess <anne.burgess@btinternet.com> wrote: > > The town of Banff is in the parish of Banff, which > is in the county of > Banff. > > Since 1975 the county of Banff has been divided > between Moray and latterly > Aberdeenshire for purposes of local government. The > parish and therefore > town of Banff are in the bit which is now > Aberdeenshire. From 1975 to 1992 > it was in Banff and Buchan District. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

    05/21/2005 06:14:29
    1. Re: James Reid & Ann Rose
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rose, Mackintosh, - just east of Culloden AND also near Tomatin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1287.1 Message Board Post: John, Not much to go on, however there is a Rose "Home" along the River Findhorn about midway between Nairn and Inverness cities. I also recall from about 30 years back being at the Rose Family Castle - I don't recall the name of it unfortunately - about 1 to 2 hours (max) south of Inverness along Hwy A9 - it may likely have been near Tomatin because my family were Tailors by Trade at one point on the Rose Estate, and those tailors were trained (apprenticed) by their Uncle Donald Mackintosh at or near the Town of Tomatin. Somewhere around 1800 (??) I believe that a Mackintosh married a Rose daughter (wow! some step up for him) and you may be able to pick up the lineage somewhere in that era. Hope this helps a bit. Ron Mann

    05/21/2005 05:47:25
    1. Banff?
    2. Sharon
    3. Can anyone tell me what parish the town of Banff is in? TIA, Sharon --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

    05/21/2005 05:34:14
    1. Re: [MORAY] Findhorn Frasers
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. > What parish was Findhorn about 1800 and has it ever > changed it's boundaries? Kinloss, and not as far as I know. Anne

    05/21/2005 05:19:02
    1. Re: [MORAY]Banffshire databases update.................
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. > When did Banffshire move to Moray? > Sharon 1975. Most of the County of Banff is now in Moray. The rest is in Aberdeenshire. Anne

    05/21/2005 05:08:59
    1. Re: [MORAY] Geddes
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. > I believe I am right in saying that for searches for folk from > Lossiemouth, > you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or Elgin. Please > correct me if > I am wrong someone. Close, but not quite right. Lossiemouth is in the parish of Drainie. Anne

    05/21/2005 04:36:51
    1. Re: James Reid & Ann Rose
    2. Kaj Andersson
    3. I forgot to tell you, that I also have a bottle of very good scotch single malt from McDuff : Balvenie 12 yrs doublewood. Bought in Madrid today, cannot be found in Sweden unfortunately. But that is another story ;) /Kaj A.

    05/20/2005 04:39:11
    1. Re: James Reid & Ann Rose
    2. Kaj Andersson
    3. Hi John, there“s a William Reid, married to Margaret Innes from Banff. I dont have any detailed information about William and Margaret, but her 3 brothers were born 1745-48. William and Margaret had at least 4 children: Margaret, Robert, Euphemia, and James, who went to Sweden were he remained single and died 1813. I found this during my research for the Innes family tree. William Reid was a town clerk in Banff. Regards, Kaj Andersson

    05/20/2005 04:31:45