This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieb611 Surnames: Douglas, Smith, Brander Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for the information. I was just wondering if you can tell me if there is any way to find out where to look for divorces late 1800's. As in my earlier message for Elizabeth Mackenzie - Penuels Daughter also, I said I have Penuel Smith marrying Alexander Mackenzie in 1877 and it was registered in 1878 (sheriff warrant) but she also registered for poor relief in 1877 and you wasnt sure about that. I have since found out Penuel left Scotland 1878 on board the ship "Rodell Bay" bound for Australia. Also Alexander Mackenzie was a Police Constable when he married her which I have also found out he was only in Police Force from 1876-1877 then he left it. There is no record of him coming to Australia and I havent been able to find him on the Australian Queensland Death register so I am wondering maybe Penuel and Alexander divorced. I did find a Alexander Mackenzie on the 1881 as a under gamekeeper in Elgin but I dont know if it is him or not. Could you please advise me where to look for any Divorces from 1877 - 1878. I hope I am not confusing you too much with their past. But Penuels has certainly been colourful. Somehow on the Libindx site Penuel is listed with New Zealand next to her name and I dont know where that fits in either. That was on Jane (Jemima) Douglas and Robert Branders listing. Any thoughts????? Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was in Elgin today and had a few minutes to spare so I looked up Jane Douglas or Brander in the Register of Poor for the Parish of Elgin. Jane Douglas or Brander, residing 166d High Street, Elgin, aged 33 years. Admitted 1908, March 3 at 3/- per week. Born Elgin, Protestant, married - separated. Occupation general servant. Wholly disabled by wound in right hand, wholly destitute. Settlement: birth and residence. No children living with her. Children not living with her: Elizabeth Jane Brander, born Elgin, 14½ years; Thomas James Brander, born Elgin, 13 years. Other Information see Record No 10/117. 1908, May 5 Ceased - struck off. A few explanatory notes in case you haven't seen a Parochial Board Register of Poor before. "Admitted" means that the Board had considered her application and accepted that it was their responsibility to deal with her. "Disabled" simply means "unable to earn a living". It does not imply a permanent physical or mental disability. "Settlement" is the criterion by which the Board decided whether an applicant was their responsibility or not. A person could acquire settlement in a parish either by being born there, or being the wife of a man born there, or by living there continuously for the prescribed number of years (five, I think it was). If an applicant had not acquired settlement, the Board would seek from the applicant's parish of settlement reimbursement for any emergency measures to relieve the immediate problem, and instructions as to how to deal with the applicant in future. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I had a look at the 1841 Census and it does look like the Christian might have been a sister to this Janet Innes ( Cant ). I'm not sure if this is the right Robert because the one that I am looking for was born 22 Oct.1769 in Inveravon and the IGI shows his parents were John Innes and Jean Gordon William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goldie & Lido Doratti" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Libindx NM036050 > send for the information..........I found him on the 1841 census at Innes > Close, Elgin. With him is Jannet Innes female age 66, b Morayshire > and two others.....Cant, Christian female 60 Female Servant b Morayshire > and > Miller, Margaret female 6. also b Morayshire. I THINK Jannet is Jannet > CANT, > and suspect Christian may be a sister.....I also suspect Robt is born in > Speymouth. If that is so, I may have his birth and family info.....I did > the film, but can't be positive of the years...Goldie > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "William Innes" <[email protected]> > To: "SCT-BANFFSHIRE" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:19 AM > Subject: [MORAY] Libindx NM036050 > > >> Hi. NM036050 from the Libindx tells me that Robert Innes born 1769 >> worked >> in Elgin and that he died in Elgin 9 Aug.1845 at the age of 76 and was >> buried at Elgin Cathedral. >> >> So what I did was look-up in the Libindx under the letter E all of the >> cemeteries but this specific Robert is not shown. >> >> The one thing that Libindx tells me is that the Parish Register is MF A >> EL4 and that there were 4 entries for newspaper articles. >> >> Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >> >> William >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. NM036050 from the Libindx tells me that Robert Innes born 1769 worked in Elgin and that he died in Elgin 9 Aug.1845 at the age of 76 and was buried at Elgin Cathedral. So what I did was look-up in the Libindx under the letter E all of the cemeteries but this specific Robert is not shown. The one thing that Libindx tells me is that the Parish Register is MF A EL4 and that there were 4 entries for newspaper articles. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. William

send for the information..........I found him on the 1841 census at Innes Close, Elgin. With him is Jannet Innes female age 66, b Morayshire and two others.....Cant, Christian female 60 Female Servant b Morayshire and Miller, Margaret female 6. also b Morayshire. I THINK Jannet is Jannet CANT, and suspect Christian may be a sister.....I also suspect Robt is born in Speymouth. If that is so, I may have his birth and family info.....I did the film, but can't be positive of the years...Goldie ---- Original Message ----- From: "William Innes" <[email protected]> To: "SCT-BANFFSHIRE" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: [MORAY] Libindx NM036050 > Hi. NM036050 from the Libindx tells me that Robert Innes born 1769 worked > in Elgin and that he died in Elgin 9 Aug.1845 at the age of 76 and was > buried at Elgin Cathedral. > > So what I did was look-up in the Libindx under the letter E all of the > cemeteries but this specific Robert is not shown. > > The one thing that Libindx tells me is that the Parish Register is MF A > EL4 and that there were 4 entries for newspaper articles. > > Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. > > William > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers I am searching for parents names of Ann CAMPBELL born about 1848 at Elgin, Morayshire. Also anyone who may have William & Elisabeth SIM/SEM of Elgin on their Family Tree. Time frame same as Ann above. Many thanks Lynne Price

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: scatchpole12 Surnames: Hill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2314/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Someone must know Brian Hill or some of his family? he lived in Buckie in Oran cottage. It appears I am related to him through his mother Beatrice Hill and would really like to contact him. If you know him or any of his relatives please let them know.THANKS. Kind regards Stephen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieb611 Surnames: Douglas, Smith, Brander Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I must be slow cause I just realised that Jemima was born Jemima Jane Douglas so she must have dropped her first name and went under Jane when she got older. I wouldnt have thought to look under that either. I will go back over my notes and check her out again with Jane and see if I can find more info now. Thanks Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieb611 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I must be slow cause I just realised that Jemima was born Jemima Jane Douglas so she must have dropped her first name and went under Jane when she got older. I wouldnt have thought to look under that either. I will go back over my notes and check her out again with Jane and see if I can find more info now. Thanks Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Judith, I was not 'in' on the exchange of e-mails on this ship. I don't know how I missed out on what would appear the first ones. Are you able to see if there was a William MacDuff or a William Harvey among any of the passengers? Thanks in anticipation Ray Christmas, New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Ship 'Carrier Dove' > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: JudithAcaster > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2289.2.1.2.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, > Pleased you were able to find your 'disguised' family. > Thanks for the offer of a copy of the postcard. I already have it! I > presume you are referring to the Sailing Card which was sold last year for > $2750 presumably in America. > I also have a copy of a Passenger Ticket stating that passengers, Reuben > (17) and Benjamin (42) TONGUE paid Fourteen pounds each to come to > Australia. There is also a note that passengers were to be on board for a > Medical Inspection prior to their journey. Benjamin Tongue also wrote a > journal, but no mention of Rawlston's or otherwise. > Happy to send copies of these by snail mail. > Cheers!........Judy > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1151 - Release Date: > 11/25/2007 4:24 PM > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I didn't look for her as Jane - I just put in the surname and maiden name. I'd never have thought of a Jemima being known as Jane. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieb611 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your help. I searched all last night in Libindx but not once did I think to look under Jane for Jemima. I tried to find children with her name and couldn't. Now you have me intrigued regarding the New Zealand bit for Penuel as this is the first time that has shown anywhere in my research. Thanks for your help. Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Forfarian Surnames: Douglas, Smith, Brander Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk lists in the index the marriage of Jemima Douglas to a Mr Brander in Elgin in 1892. You can find out his given name, and check that her parents are the right ones, by viewing the image of the marriage certificate there for a modest fee. The same fee will cover viewing the 1901 census image as well. http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp lists Jane Douglas or Brander, daughter of James Douglas, Gamekeeper, Altyre and Penuel Smith, New Zealand, who looks as if she may be your Jemima with her name misspelled. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieb611 Surnames: Douglas, Smith, Brander Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2313/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, hoping someone can help me. I have been trying to find out what happened to Jemima Douglas b.n 1873 in Elgin Moray for quite some time. Just recently I was given a hint that on the 1901 Scottish Census she could be Jemima Brander which fits with her information. Only problem I have is I dont know the husbands name or if there where any children. Is there someone who maybe knows of this family that could help me find out if it is the same Jemima I am looking for. Her parents were James Douglas and Penuel Smith and she was illegitamate. Thanks in advance for any help. Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudithAcaster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2289.2.1.2.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Pleased you were able to find your 'disguised' family. Thanks for the offer of a copy of the postcard. I already have it! I presume you are referring to the Sailing Card which was sold last year for $2750 presumably in America. I also have a copy of a Passenger Ticket stating that passengers, Reuben (17) and Benjamin (42) TONGUE paid Fourteen pounds each to come to Australia. There is also a note that passengers were to be on board for a Medical Inspection prior to their journey. Benjamin Tongue also wrote a journal, but no mention of Rawlston's or otherwise. Happy to send copies of these by snail mail. Cheers!........Judy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maxinc159 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2289.2.1.2.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Judy The Rowlstons are listed on the passenger list on the PROV/Vic site as Rawlaston. They arrived on the Carrier Dove in November 1857 with Charles Bregazzi. Thanks for looking for them in Charles Bregazzi's diary. I have just found an old postcard of the Carrier Dove online, would you like me to send you a copy?. Maxinc Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Family-History Leads - Missouri Below are Tables of Contents for the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal for 2007. If you would like to receive regularly the quarterly Tables of Contents for the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal, just reply. (No charge.) Below the Tables of Contents are links, yes, some of them of my doing. MISSOURI STATE GENEALOGICAL ASSOCIATION JOURNAL TABLES OF CONTENTS - 2007 President's Message - A Unique Opportunity 2 Editorial - Government benefits family historians. 3 William Nash Moore's Memories 4 Legal Change Of Names In Missouri Prior To 1868 7 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (1/4) 13 Burned To Death - Mrs. Mary Gibbons 17 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington, Franklin County, Missouri Births & Baptisms 1893 18 Lafayette Wilcox Suicide 21 I Want It All 22 Wants To Compromise - Cummings 23 Grand Army Of The Republic, Post No. 240, Boonville, Mo. 24 An Old Bloody Feud - Afflick - Riley 27 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (1/4) 28 A Suspicious Death - Wm. Brown, 1897 30 Hilderbrand - The Desperado 31 Extracts, Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (1/4) 33 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (1/3) 38 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (1/4) 42 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (1/4) 44 Golden Wedding - Mr. & Mrs. Fritz Schriefer 49 Obituary - Colonel Ira H. Ellis 50 Tiogeeeee Or Not? Analyzing A Place Of Birth 51 Eight Deaths - Rouse, Henning, Woods, Morgan, Newbrough, Jones, Maupin, Thompson, 1898 52 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (1/4) 53 The Union Responds (1/3) 57 Father [Wm. J. Thomas] Kills His Children - 1899 59 Forbis family Bible 60 Extracts, Jeffersonian Republican, May 1843-Aug 1844 62 President's Message - Musings from Virginia 66 Editorial - Take The Broad View 67 Visiting An Ancestor's Place Of Birth Can Yield Surprising Information And Treasures 68 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (2/3) 72 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (2/4) 76 More Born In Tiogeeeee . . . Follow Up 80 Prisoners From Alton 82 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (2/4) 84 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (2/4) 89 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington, Franklin County, Missouri Births & Baptisms, 1894 92 Some Released Prisoners (1862) 94 Death Of A. Eddleman [1821-1901] 95 Obituary - Abraham Eddleman 95 Presbyterian Church, Price's Branch, Montgomery County, Mo., 1867-1907 96 Suicide Of Frederick Rust 98 The Oft-Married Sarah 99 A Centenarian (Mrs. Elizabeth Owen) , 1875 101 Some Boone County Citizens [born before 1840] 102 Body Mangled By Hogs - Henry Fink, 1898 103 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader, 1887 (2/4) 104 Sam. Hilderbrand 111 Hilderbrand - Sheriff's Posse Fired Upon - Bowen's Horse Shot And Himself Wounded 112 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (2/4) 113 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (2/4) 116 Mrs. Ann Waters [1805-1905] Dead 119 Linn County, Missouri Letters Of Administration, Volume A (1840-1855) 120 Queries, Edited by Juanita Mallory 127 President's Message - Taking Stock 130 Bringing Our 19th Century Immigrants To Life 131 Deed, New Madrid County, 1817 138 Genealogy Misconceptions 139 Obituaries - Carter, Edmonston, 1899 140 The Hilderbrand Hunt 141 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church, Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, Births & Baptisms, 1895 142 Ink's Battalion 144 Freight Train Collision [Harry Carter Dead] 145 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (3/3) 146 New Providence Baptist Church, Hough Station, Mississippi County, Mo. 150 Dry Fork Church Of Primitive Baptists, Lake Spring, Mo. 153 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (3/4) 156 Automatic Translation 159 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (3/4) 160 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (3/4) 164 Two Fishermen [Miller And Brooks] Drowned 168 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (3/4) 169 Deaths -Sep 1861 172 Rushing Around To Figure Sarah Out 173 Errata Re Vol. XXVII, No. 2 174 Chapman School, Benton County, Mo., 1890-1896 175 An Interesting Account (G.A.R., Hermitage, Mo.) 177 The Union Responds (3/3) 178 Two Men [Moroney And Donegan] Murdered, 1864 180 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (3/4) 181 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (3/4) 186 The Boone's Lick Settlement 190 Queries, Edited by Juanita Mallory 192 Officers and Directors Inside Front Cover President's Message, Going Virtual to Survive 194 Battle At Springfield 195 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (4/4) 197 Elizabeth And Joseph Wood 202 Hilderbrand 206 Death Of Mrs. Mosby 208 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (4/4) 209 More Chasing The Ever-Changing Chaneys 213 Attended His Own Funeral And Lives 215 Missouri White Caps 215 The Reality Of Sarah's Realty 216 Fatal Accident In The Woods - Henson 217 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (4/4) 218 Sudden Death Of Sam Bounds 221 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church, Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, Births & Baptisms 1896 222 Sudden Death Of Jas. E. Dickey - 1898 225 Presbyterian Church, Price's Branch, Montgomery County, Mo. 1867-1907 226 One Cent Reward - Silvers 228 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (4/4) 229 Ernst Winter - Auguste Therese Sprenger Wedding 230 Aldrich Post 536, GAR, Polk County, Mo. 231 Officers Who Have Filed Oaths 232 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (4/4) 233 She (Mrs. Woodsworth) Came Here First In 1833 235 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (4/4) 236 Horror! Horror! (Spencer Family Murdered) 239 Officers, Missouri National Guard, 1890 240 Infant Baptisms, Brush Creek Presbyterian Church, Montgomery County 244 Is Genealogy Bunk? 245 Update re Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry 246 Book Reviews, by Angela McComas 247 Annual Indexes 249 You may enjoy the following web pages: Tables of Contents, and Surname Index, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal, 1981-2006: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/contents.htm http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/JournalSurnameIndex.htm To subscribe (free) to the Missouri State Genealogical Association blog: http://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/emailconfirm?k=FFfcwA7_Uh&i=4337596 (You or your group will probably want to psot notices here.) 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudithAcaster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2289.2.1.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maxinc, The name, Rowlston does not appear on the passenger list for '50 Unassisted Passengers' on the Carrier Dove in 1857. I am unable to find it on scanning the Diary of Charles Bregazzi. HOWEVER - at the end of the Diary account, there is a note that 'Shipping records show that Carrier Dove, with 10 cabin and 330 intermediate and steerage passengers, completed her first voyage to Melbourne on 2 November 1857' Perhaps the list of steerage passengers is not available. Have just noticed this, so will check again with the PRO/Victoria. Judy. Perth. W.Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you so much for answering my e-mail Anne. I shall next be going to that site. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] RC family >> I am a struggling forever "beginner" genealogist! May I please take >> advantage of your knowledge and ask how I would find Roman Catholic >> church >> records say for Parish of Rathven - including Buckie, Lossiemouth, >> Kirkmichael etc. - Thanks if you can help! > > Hi Jean > > The surviving RC registers for the present version of Moray have been > microfilmed and the films are held in the Moray Local Heritage Centre. The > present version of Moray includes the parishes of Rathven (Buckie), > Drainie (Lossiemouth) and Kirkmichael (Tomintoul - but beware, there are > at least four other parishes called Kirkmichael elsewhere in Scotland). > > The Kirkmichael and Rathven ones have been indexed on LIBINDX and are > online at http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp > > I can't swear to it, but I don't think there is a surviving RC register > for Drainie. > > HTH > > Anne >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jecroft Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2312.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From the FreeCen website at http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl , the 1841 census entry for this family shows that Isabella WOOD was not a BROWN. Although this census did not indicate relationships, and, despite the English instructions, sometimes women did use their legal birth surname for the census, the most likely scenario is that Isabella BROWN was illegitimate. You would need to check the Kirk Session records for the parish of her birth to find her father's name. Another source is the local Sheriff's Court if a financial claim was made against the father. Piece: SCT1841/161 Place: Marnoch -Banffshire Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Marnoch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 5 Page: 1 Address: Aberchirder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CLARK Peter M 40 Ag. Labourer Banffshire CLARK William M 2 Banffshire BROWN Isabella F 11 Female Servant Banffshire age unclear WOOD Isabell F 40 Female Servant Banffshire STEWART Elisabeth F 7 Banffshire WATT and WOOD would not have been phonetically confused. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.