This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JaniceTeisar05 Surnames: Dingwall. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2329/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to help a distant cousin trace his family tree,and have managed to trace through the census details down to the 1851 census( no details can be found in the 1841 census) a George Dingwall born 1812 and his wife Jean born 1813,Jean ( maiden name unknown) was born in Spynie Elgin and George born Hopeman Elgin.Anyhelp would be great. Email me at [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Peter, I have ROBERTSONS in the same area. Helen ROBERTSON born 16 August, 1830 to James ROBERTSON and Jane NAIRN at Dallas. In 1841 Helen is living at Craigend, Dallas with her father's family James aged 80, Helen aged 90 and Alexander 55. I am not sure what has happened to Jane at this point, but Helen's father James ROBERTSON aged 45, mason born Morayshire appears on the 1841 census at High Street, Forres, but according to the marriage record had died by the time Helen married in 1850. Helen was left money in her grandfather Peter NAIRN's will, which was paid over for her to Hugh Duff MACQUEEN, hotel keeper of Forres until she reached 21yrs or married. Peter refers to Hugh Duff MACQUEEN as his nephew in his will. Helen ROBERTSON married Roderick MACINTYRE, farm servant in Burdsyards on 31st May, 1850. They lived in Forres, where Roderick, a labourer by trade, managed to get himself fined for drunk and disorderly conduct on 16 June 1851 and fined 7s 6d. Sadly Helen died at 123 High Street, Forres on 4 March, 1857 when only 26 years of age. Kind regards, Dorothy On 30/03/2008, at 6:18 PM, Peter Gibson wrote: > Hello, I'm looking for the Angus family who lived in Forres, 1830s > onwards. Other families connected with this family are Dick, > Hendry/Hendrie/Henry, Brander, Robertson, MacDonald, some of whom > lived in the surrounding areas of Dallas and Rafford. > > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I'm looking for the Angus family who lived in Forres, 1830s onwards. Other families connected with this family are Dick, Hendry/Hendrie/Henry, Brander, Robertson, MacDonald, some of whom lived in the surrounding areas of Dallas and Rafford. Peter

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sneesby8 Surnames: keil Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2285.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on my mothers family Keil. My mother is 88years old and not very forth coming in giving away any information. As I am visiting Germany this year I am interested in her family history. She is the illegitimate daughter of Barbara Keil and Joseph Wutz. She was born in Dofering (near Cham) West Germany. Barbara's mother was also Barbara keil (nee Prossier) she was married to ?Joseph or Johanne Keil. Barbara & Joseph(?Johanne)Keil had numerous children (according to Mum Maybe 13) I cannot find any Keil's in this area of Germany. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: midland157 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/1154.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think I probably have the same info as you. I have very little re John and Jessie's ancestors. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you Anne. Will get onto it tonight, in 12 hrs' time.(Does 'time' belong to 12 hrs therefore needing an apostrophe after the hrs for possession of more than one hour, or should there be no possessive apostrophe at all?) Regards, Ray C NZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Which community? >> Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not >> heard of it >> before. > > It's Moray Local Heritage Centre's online index to people in > Moray, and it's at > http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp > > Anne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 > 8:52 AM > >

Dear Gavin, I haven,t time just now at 8.45am to explain how I arrived at this set of conclusions through diligent research involving 3 or 4 trips th King St in Aberdeen on holidays to UK. I will do so tonight and I would be most grateful if you could help me further with information as you have just done. Kind regards, Ray C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Bell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Which community? > Ray Christmas wrote: > >>Hi William, >>Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not heard of it >>before. >> >>Kind regards, >>Ray Christmas, New Zealand. >>Searching for information on the movements of William Harvey, >>g-grandfather, >>born Gamrie 1845. In his 14th year, he disappeared.(maybe banished from >>home by his step-mother) I do not know whether he left Scotland in that >>year >>or stayed on in a workhouse or some other institution, somewhere in the >>British Isles. >> > > Certainly not a "workhouse" in Gamrie or anywhere else locally - there > weren't any! Some parishes had, or shared, or subscribed to a limited > number of places in, a "Poorhouse", but I don't think Gamrie did. The > great majority of Poor Relief was supplied as "outdoor relief", that is, > the applicant received cash or kind to support him or her while > remaining "in the community". > > But in any case, it is pretty unlikely that, aged 14, he would have > qualified for any form of support, even if he had been thrown out by his > wicked step-mother. A 14-year-old was considered old enough to earn his > own living. > > And that is most likely what he did. Most farms depended on workers who > signed at a "Feein' Fair" for 6 months at a time, and there was a great > degree of "churn", with workers (particularly younger ones with no > dependants) moving every Whitsun and Martinmas, looking for a better > berth. And he might well have done so while remaining on the best of > terms with his stepmother! > >>He may have joined ship's crew, or stowed away on a Ship >>bound for any one of America, Australia or New Zealand (although in the >>latter case he took his time getting here at age 23 ! ! !) >>He changed his name en-route to MacDuff. >> >> > > If he changed his name, how do you know it was the same person? > > > Gavin Bell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 > 8:52 AM > >

Hi William, Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not heard of it before. Kind regards, Ray Christmas, New Zealand. Searching for information on the movements of William Harvey, g-grandfather, born Gamrie 1845. In his 14th year, he disappeared.(maybe banished from home by his step-mother) I do not know whether he left Scotland in that year or stayed on in a workhouse or some other institution, somewhere in the British Isles. He may have joined ship's crew, or stowed away on a Ship bound for any one of America, Australia or New Zealand (although in the latter case he took his time getting here at age 23 ! ! !) He changed his name en-route to MacDuff. Kind regards, Ray Christmas, NZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Moray Email" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:13 AM Subject: [MORAY] Which community? > Hi everyone. I've just come across a marriage extract in Inveravon and > here us how it reads: > > "John Grant alias McAdam in the Parish of Cabrach and Jean Gordon in this > parish,( Inveravon ) being matrimonially contracted and orderly > proclaimed, were married Dec.25, 1770." > > How can I go about finding where in Inveravon Jean Gordon came from? > > So far I have checked with the Libindx and it does not give me specific > enough information on Jean Gordon. That is to say there are too many > listings without dates. None for John Grant or McAdam > > Perhaps Gavin may have some suggestions? > > Williiam > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 > 9:54 AM > >

> Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not > heard of it > before. It's Moray Local Heritage Centre's online index to people in Moray, and it's at http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp Anne

Found this stray en-passant when searching for my CHAPMAN of Bathgate WLN: 1898: "Alexander Chapman railway goods guard (married 1st Lillian Bisset 2nd Christine --- [illegible]) died 28-4-1898 1.30am 11 Park Place Kirkrolloch Airdrie, age 48, of diabetes affection of spinal nerve 10d. Parents: Charles Chapman salmon fisher & Mary Chapman ms Hunter. Inf: J.B. Chapman son [signed] The Academy Dumfries." - D-1898-651(NewMonkland)-186. 1881: Speymouth, Elgin Volume 143 EnumDist 1 Page 3 Charles CHAPMAN M 55 M Keith, Banff Head Salmon Fisher Mary CHAPMAN M 53 F Ireland Wife John CHAPMAN 11 M Speymouth, Elgin Son Scholar Mary HUNTER 80 F Ireland Mother In Law Annuitant 1881: Brewers House Distillery, Dingwall, Ross & Cromarty Volume 062 EnumDist 5 Page 1 Alexander CHAPMAN M 31 M Speymouth, Elgin Head Clerk Christina MACLEOD M 25 F Halkirk, Caithness Wife Maggie CHAPMAN U 20 F Speymouth, Elgin Sister John Bisset CHAPMAN U 5 M Reay, Sutherland Son No connection to mine. Howard Geddes

There seems to be some problem right now trying to access the Libindx. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Which community? >> Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not >> heard of it >> before. > > It's Moray Local Heritage Centre's online index to people in > Moray, and it's at > http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp > > Anne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp I checked for HARVEY and did find a recorded death for Margaret BROWN, William's mother, in 1875 at St. Ninian's in Stirling. (Sort of kills the typical family story of being thrown out by evil step-parent as he would have been 30 years old.) I found most of the remaining family on the 1881 Scotland census CD if you need that info. All were living in Stirling except for James (living in Linlithgow) and no trace of William or Peter. The "MacDuff" might have come from his place of birth. All his siblings are in the census as born in MacDuff, Banff. -- Jo-Ann Croft -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Ray Christmas" <[email protected]> > > Hi William, > Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not heard of it > before. > > Kind regards, > Ray Christmas, New Zealand. > Searching for information on the movements of William Harvey, g-grandfather, > born Gamrie 1845. In his 14th year, he disappeared.(maybe banished from > home by his step-mother) I do not know whether he left Scotland in that year > or stayed on in a workhouse or some other institution, somewhere in the > British Isles. He may have joined ship's crew, or stowed away on a Ship > bound for any one of America, Australia or New Zealand (although in the > latter case he took his time getting here at age 23 ! ! !) > He changed his name en-route to MacDuff. >

Ray Christmas wrote: >Hi William, >Could you please write me how you access Libindx. I have not heard of it >before. > >Kind regards, >Ray Christmas, New Zealand. >Searching for information on the movements of William Harvey, g-grandfather, >born Gamrie 1845. In his 14th year, he disappeared.(maybe banished from >home by his step-mother) I do not know whether he left Scotland in that year >or stayed on in a workhouse or some other institution, somewhere in the >British Isles. > Certainly not a "workhouse" in Gamrie or anywhere else locally - there weren't any! Some parishes had, or shared, or subscribed to a limited number of places in, a "Poorhouse", but I don't think Gamrie did. The great majority of Poor Relief was supplied as "outdoor relief", that is, the applicant received cash or kind to support him or her while remaining "in the community". But in any case, it is pretty unlikely that, aged 14, he would have qualified for any form of support, even if he had been thrown out by his wicked step-mother. A 14-year-old was considered old enough to earn his own living. And that is most likely what he did. Most farms depended on workers who signed at a "Feein' Fair" for 6 months at a time, and there was a great degree of "churn", with workers (particularly younger ones with no dependants) moving every Whitsun and Martinmas, looking for a better berth. And he might well have done so while remaining on the best of terms with his stepmother! >He may have joined ship's crew, or stowed away on a Ship >bound for any one of America, Australia or New Zealand (although in the >latter case he took his time getting here at age 23 ! ! !) >He changed his name en-route to MacDuff. > > If he changed his name, how do you know it was the same person? Gavin Bell

Dear Charlene, I thought I had hit GOLD, when reading your GRANT/McKENZIE MESAGE....BUT I am looking for connectingGrant/McIntosh/McKay (any spelling), but also from Elgin, Lossiemouth vicinity. I have pictures, also, and wish I knew who...beautiful girls, clothes & hairdos....some from AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND! Peg H. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. GRANT & MCKENZIE ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:32:51 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: [MORAY] GRANT & MCKENZIE > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Greetings List > > I am new to this list and my interest is of a picture I > have of two gorgeous > young ladies who were apparently friends of my dearly > beloved departed > mother, Charlotte Rawlins of Hudson County, New Jersey. > > One the back of the photo is written "Betsy Grant age 16 > and Catherine > McKenzie age 17 1/2" and on the top of the photo is > written "Louisouth, > Morayshire, Scotland", please note, I could be mistaken > of the writing but this is what > it appears to be. My mother was born in New Jersey in > 1926 so I'm assuming > these ladies are the same age bracket of my mother. > > I would love to find family of these two fine ladies to > send this picture to > and hope I am subscribing to the right list. If not, > please suggest which > list(s) I should subscribe to in hopes of finding family > / friends of these > young ladies. > > Kindest regards from Nebraska USA > > Charlene > > Email: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice > on AOL Money & > Finance. > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MORAY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MORAY mailing list, send an > email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MORAY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > ************************************ > Peg ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Thanks, Anne Burgess, and others, for guidance re/finding my Jessie McKay. Peg H. --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jessie McKay, Elgin, Lossiemouth area (Anne > Burgess) > 2. Re: Jessie McKay, Elgin, Lossiemouth area (Anne > Burgess) > Peg ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gregwalker54 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/1154.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes I do have more information on John Slorach's ancestors. Can you send me an email and I will forward you what I have. [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: meldelacruz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/1154.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am descended from John Slorach and Jessie Hendry. Although I have info on their decendents, I have very little info on their ancestors. I am wondering if you have such info? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: meldelacruz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/121.929/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just begun to research the Hendry line of my family. I am decended from Jessie Hendry, born c. 1828 in Keith, Scotland to Alexander Hendry and Ann Bonnaman. Jessie married John Slorach in 1852 and they migrated to Australia. These seem to be the same ancestors that you are researching. I am wondering if you have any info on Alexander, Ann or their ancestors? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi everyone. I've just come across a marriage extract in Inveravon and here us how it reads: "John Grant alias McAdam in the Parish of Cabrach and Jean Gordon in this parish,( Inveravon ) being matrimonially contracted and orderly proclaimed, were married Dec.25, 1770." How can I go about finding where in Inveravon Jean Gordon came from? So far I have checked with the Libindx and it does not give me specific enough information on Jean Gordon. That is to say there are too many listings without dates. None for John Grant or McAdam Perhaps Gavin may have some suggestions? Williiam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shirleyarule Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2328/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for information of John George Harrold born 1826 in Maidstone, England. Was a Sgt-Major with the 16th Lancers. Married Harriette Legget and had the following Children: Charles H Harrold, Arthur Albert Harrold, John Harrold & Walter Harrold. Can not locate place of death for John Geo Harrold. His Children were born in Ireland, Scotland and England. No record of John Geo Harrold or wife Harriette after 1871 census in Wales. Surname has also been recorded as Harold though out the year. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.