This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gmuckart1 Surnames: Muckart Shea Caines Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/11.726.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Annette, I am a blood relative of George Muckart, but I am not a descendant of his. My connection to George is one or two generations back from George himself. I don't have much on Catherine Shea. She died before George. All of the research I did on George and his family is on my old computer. It may take some time to ferret it all out. I can however tell you that George was a Jobbing Gardener, and that he died at 26 Batchen Street, in Elgin. George's death cert., gives his age as 74 when he died. From memory I think that Catherine died in the 1890's. I can put you in touch with some of George and Catherine's descendants. I met them when they came over to Scotland some years ago. They live in Ontario. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My apologies re the spelling of Midlothian, just my lazyness in not checking my writing, no offence meant to my Scottish Kinfolk. Yes you are prob right, re the correct mailing list. The year by the way is 1848, she was living in Paisley, but most of her chn were born in North Lothian, and or Edinburgh, maybe she went there to family. She was expecting her 7th child in 1848, so seems to have gone to Edinburgh/St Cuthbert for the birth. The child was born in Edinburgh, but Agnes the Mother died of Consumption in St Cuthbert on the date mentioned above. Thanks anyway.She was married to Alexander Marshall, her maiden name was Gemmell/Gamel. Pearl M.

Lesley, According to her death registration, Elspet Allan m.s. BARCLAY was buried at Grange churchyard in 1859. I would believe that her husband was also buried there. There seems to be no surviving memorial stone for this couple. -- Jo-Ann -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Lesley Moore" <lesleyandrobert@smartchat.net.au> > Hello, Could someone please do a lookup for a JOHN ALLAN who died between the Census of 1851 and 1861 in Keith. He was born in Grange abt. 1770-1773. > Married to Elspet Barclay in 7.7.1795 in Keith. Many thanks, Lesley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annettecaines Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/11.729/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i think that we are related and come down the line of George and Catherines daughter Catherine.Please get in touch if you can. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annettecaines Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/11.726.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just found your message.Iam looking for a birthplace of Catherine Muckart nee Shae. She was married to George and lived in Elgin, but was born in Ireland.Am stuck and cant go any further. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, Could someone please do a lookup for a JOHN ALLAN who died between the Census of 1851 and 1861 in Keith. He was born in Grange abt. 1770-1773. Married to Elspet Barclay in 7.7.1795 in Keith. Many thanks, Lesley

I might be able to help you, I'll see what I can find. Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Moore" <lesleyandrobert@smartchat.net.au> To: <MORAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:18 AM Subject: [MORAY] Keith burial lookup > Hello, Could someone please do a lookup for a JOHN ALLAN who died between > the Census of 1851 and 1861 in Keith. He was born in Grange abt. > 1770-1773. Married to Elspet Barclay in 7.7.1795 in Keith. Many thanks, > Lesley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Lesley, Found this on Scotlands People Year Surname / Maiden Name Forename Mother's Surname Other Surnames Sex Age District City/County/MR GROS Data Image 1 1860 ALLAN JOHN HAY M 0 MARNOCH /BANFF 161/00 0039 2 1860 ALLAN JOHN FORDYCE M 83 ENZIE /BANFF 152/00 0016 There are none for Keith itself but Enzie borders the Parish of Keith. I looked in the Old Parish Registers for the pre- 1855 records but no John Allans were recorded dying in Banffshire between the years 1850 and 1854. Mark Whitton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Moore" <lesleyandrobert@smartchat.net.au> To: <MORAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: [MORAY] Keith burial lookup > Hello, Could someone please do a lookup for a JOHN ALLAN who died between > the Census of 1851 and 1861 in Keith. He was born in Grange abt. > 1770-1773. Married to Elspet Barclay in 7.7.1795 in Keith. Many thanks, > Lesley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.27/2258 - Release Date: 07/24/09 05:58:00

Lesley Moore wrote: >Hello, Could someone please do a lookup for a JOHN ALLAN who died between the Census of 1851 and 1861 in Keith. He was born in Grange abt. 1770-1773. Married to Elspet Barclay in 7.7.1795 in Keith. > If you are looking for burial data, then you will need to contact Moray Council. I have not managed, via their website, to discover what burial records exist, but you will get basic points of contact at: http://www.moray.gov.uk/moray_standard/page_39980.html I imagine you would have to email or write with your query - burial records are not often online or even computerised. If, on the other hand, you are seeking a record for John's death, then he may be recorded in either the pre-1855 OPR records (death records for Keith parish exist 1748-1854) or in the civil Registers of Death (from 1855). Both are available on Scotlandspeople. Gavin Bell

Pearl Montrose wrote: >My apologies re the spelling of Midlothian, just my lazyness in not checking my writing, no offence meant to my Scottish Kinfolk. Yes you are prob right, re the correct mailing list. The year by the way is 1848, she was living in Paisley, but most of her chn were born in North Lothian, and or Edinburgh, maybe she went there to family. > I'm a little surprised by "North Lothian". There are (or were) three counties, collectively known as "The Lothians", but these are West Lothian, Midlothian and East Lothian - I have never heard of a "North". In the 19th century, these three counties were often referred to after the English style (that is, taking the name of their principal town) as Linlithgowshire, Edinburghshire and Haddingtonshire. Gavin Bell

Hello List, Have found a death in St Cutherbert Parish, Midloathian, 31 India Place. Can someone tell me the names of cemeteries in that vicinity, where I may check for a burial. Thanks for any help or suggestions. Pearl M. NZ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gray1939 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2368.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You can easily do this yourself. The 1841, 1851 & 1861 censuses for Forres are all on FreeCen and are available free of charge. Alex. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Pearl Montrose wrote: >Hello List, Have found a death in St Cutherbert Parish, Midloathian, 31 India Place. Can someone tell me the names of cemeteries in that vicinity, where I may check for a burial. > > I suspect that a sensible answer to this question is going to be dependent on date. I have not so far found a map showing its boundaries, but St Cuthbert's parish is described in Lewis's "Topgraphical Dictionary of Scotland" (1846) as "... until recently subdivided into several ecclesiastical districts ... originally included the whole of the City and and the Burgh of Canongate ..." But by the 1890s it had been subdivided once more, into 16 separate sections. All of which means that it covered much of the centre of present-day Edinburgh. In such a situation (particularly as we go through the 19th century, with the opening of numerous large non-denominational burial grounds) it is likely that any family with a body to bury were spoiled for choice, with various burial grounds within easy reach. I would be inclined to put your question (including a date) to a List specialising in Edinburgh or MidlOthian (people from Glasgow may "loathe" the place, but there is not normally an "A" in the county name!). Gavin Bell

These census returns are available FREE on the following link: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl Piece: SCT1841/137 Place: Forres -Morayshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Forres Burgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 3 Page: 18 Address: North Back Street -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks ANDERSON Thomas M 36 Gas Works Morayshire ANDERSON Jane F 35 Wife To Gas Works Morayshire ANDERSON John M 6 - Morayshire ANDERSON Margaret F 4 - Morayshire ANDERSON Jane F 1 - Morayshire Piece: SCT1851/137 Place: Forres -Morayshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Forres Burgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 107 Page: 28 Schedule: 138 Address: 109 North Bk St -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks ANDERSON Thomas Head M M 46 Grocer Morayshire - Forres ANDERSON Jean Wife M F 45 - Morayshire - Rafford ANDERSON Mary Dau U F 17 Student (Orig Scholar) Morayshire - Forres ANDERSON John Son U M 15 Writer's Apprentice Morayshire - Forres ANDERSON Margaret Dau U F 13 Scholar Morayshire - Forres ANDERSON George Son U M 5 Scholar Nairn - Nairn ANDERSON Helen Dau U F 3 - Nairn - Nairn All the best Richard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: loopy_74 Surnames: Anderson, Mason, Watkins, Boy Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2368/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would be extremely grateful if someone could please look up this ANDERSON family on the 1841 and 1851 census for Morayshire. I am pretty sure they lived in Forres. Thanking you in advance for any information. 1841 census family should include: Thomas ANDERSON born abt 1805; Jane/Jean wife born abt 1806; Mary daughter born abt 1834; John son born abt 1836; Margeret daughter born abt 1838. 1851 census family should include: Thomas ANDERSON born abt 1805; Jane/Jean wife born abt 1806; Mary daughter born abt 1834; John son born abt 1836; Margeret daughter born abt 1838; George son born abt 1846; Helen daughter born abt 1848. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

> From: moray-request@rootsweb.com <moray-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: MORAY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 120 > To: moray@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 3:00 AM > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: Thompson,  Tompson , Grant, > Tyler (CandROverson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:54:09 +0100 > From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Thompson,  Tompson , Grant, > Tyler > Hello Peg > > I could find only 1 marriage between an > Isabella/Isabel/Isobel Grant and a > Thomson/Thompson registered anywhere in Scotland between > 1900 and 1925.  As > follows: > > 1913  David Thomson to Isabella Grant in the district > of St Machar, > Aberdeen.  But they were both aged 52.  Isabella > was a widow and previously > married to a Mr Stuart. She was the daughter of John Grant, > farmer, and > Isabella Fenton.  Is this your Isabella? > > Rhoda > Thanks, Rhoda....am saving info you sent, but rather doubt it is the same couple....considering her age and her Mother's name of Fenton. Appreciate it! Peg H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MORAY list administrator, send an email to > MORAY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MORAY mailing list, send an email > to MORAY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MORAY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 120 > ************************************* >

Hello Peg I could find only 1 marriage between an Isabella/Isabel/Isobel Grant and a Thomson/Thompson registered anywhere in Scotland between 1900 and 1925. As follows: 1913 David Thomson to Isabella Grant in the district of St Machar, Aberdeen. But they were both aged 52. Isabella was a widow and previously married to a Mr Stuart. She was the daughter of John Grant, farmer, and Isabella Fenton. Is this your Isabella? Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Hopkins" <peghop33@yahoo.com> To: <MORAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:03 AM Subject: [MORAY] Thompson, Tompson , Grant, Tyler > Wondering if anyone knows of the TOMPSON( unsure of spelling) who was > married to Isabella GRANT in Elgin area prior to WW1,

Wondering if anyone knows of the TOMPSON( unsure of spelling) who was married to Isabella GRANT in Elgin area prior to WW1, They had two young children, James & Agnes (Nessie). I assume he died in the war, as she left Scotland with the children, landed in Halifax , NS, Canada..day or 2 before "Halifax Explosion"(Dec.1917) They stayed in Pictou County with her brother William Grant(my grandfather),, and when war ended she settled in Montreal, remarried a man with last name of TYLER...and the children took on that name. I would love to know anything about them. I believe Jim Tyler worked for insurance company (Sun Life ) in Toronto?? Peg Hopkins

I'm looking for a a very loose end. Elizabeth Williamson, (b. 1777-1778). m. Alexander Rhind 1804. Her parents could possibly be William Manson (1740) and Ann Fraser (1736) OR Andrew Williamson (1759) and Margaret Stout (1760). Possibly some of the Rhind descendants would know? I won't explode if I cannot find out, but I would be grateful for any help. Thanks! ________________________________

Thanks George, Always nice to have things confirmed, so I can remove my 'to be confirmed' tags from my data. Howard