This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ALASTAIR97 Surnames: Robb, Reid, Alves Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/1287.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Alexander Robb and Anne Reid had two children, both born at Earnside, parish of Alves. 1/James Robb b. 05/12/1801 c. 12/12/1801, and 2/William Robb b.26/05/1804 c. 02/06/1804. Anne must have died shortly after as Alexander married again in Elgin burgh on 01/07/1807 to Margaret Alves. Probably James also died in infancy as Alexander named another son James, b. Earnside 03/07/1816 c. 09/07/1816. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: krisduf70 Surnames: MURISON, MORISON, HERDMAN, MCCRAE, HARVIE. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2372.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Christine, I saw your first lot of photos (wrong ones!) and corrected the title of the Hotel Metropole image. This hotel is in Brighton, East Sussex, not Hampshire. I don't recognise any of the ID 11 photos. However, I clicked onto Margaret MURISON, Family ID 316. Her surname is, in fact, MORISON and this is why. Her parents were Andrew MURISON (1730-1809) and Mary HERDMAN (1740-1824). Andrew decided, for reasons best known to himself, to register all five of their children as MORISON (I have the reference). The most famous of the five children became Sir Alexander MORISON (1779-1866), who was knighted for his services in the cause of the treatment of the mentally challenged. Margaret MORISON (1770-1840) married William Gordon McCRAE (1768-1829), son of Alexander Gordon McCRAE (1745-1796) and Mary HARVIE ( ? -1770). William's sister Mary was born in 1770, which suggests Mary may have died in childbirth. Alexander then married Agnes HARVIE (sister to Mary?). If you would like further references and information, please contact me directly at chris.duff3@sympatico.ca. Chris Duff (a Murison on my mother's side) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chascameron Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2373.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for your very rapid reply. The family you located is indeed mine. The content as all things I have come to find in Family Tree matters, create more situations than they resolve!!! I now have more lines to follow and the direction in which to follow pointed out. Thank you once more Charles Cameron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jecroft Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2373.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Excuse my error. The child James was born in Rothes, their next child John Russell was born in Inveravon in 1872. Jo-Ann Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jecroft Surnames: CAMERON, GRANT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2373.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found the following family of William CAMERON and Mary GRANT in the 1871 census index on ancestry.com with their children Alexander, William and John Russell CAMERON. The youngest child (according to familysearch.org) was born in Inveravon 1871 Scotland Census about William Cameron Name: William Cameron Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Inveravon, Banff Registration Number: 157/1 Registration district: Inveravon Civil parish: Inveravon County: Banffshire Address: Stoback Occupation: Farm Servant ED: 3 Household schedule number: 37 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1871_29 Household Members: Name Age William Cameron 32 Mary Cameron 27 Alexander Cameron 5 Willia Cameron 3 James Cameron 1 John Grant 9 (nephew) Margaret Nicolson 56 (mother) Marjory Bothwell 83 (boarder) Jo-Ann Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chascameron Surnames: Cameron Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2373/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a relative newcomer to this subject. I am looking for information as to how I can find the full address of my g-g-father. I have looked at Scotland's People 1871 census but not located the information. I am looking for the family details of William Cameron b 30.11.1837 and his wife Mary Grant or Cameron b 16 March 1844. The lived at Green Street Rothes at this time. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Charlie Cameron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: christinecorene Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2372/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I recently posted a website address to an albumn of photos from the Huntly, Dufftown, Elgin, Glasgow, Aberdeen, and other scottish towns and cities. The link that I send was unfortunately the wrong one! Here is the link to the correct albumn of photos! http://www.queenslandfamilytrees.com/showalbum.php?albumID=11 Thank you for looking at them and trying to help me place these lost family members. Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Myronmint Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2371.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Betty, Due to some past research I have some of your McKenzie family. I can let you have it if you wish. Just get back to me at: geo.myrmint@virgin.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Specialkg Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2371.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Brilliant. That is my Alexander. Thank you for taking the time to find and send me this information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jecroft Surnames: McKENZIE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2371.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1871 Scotland Census about Alexander McKenzie Name: Alexander McKenzie Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Rathven, Banffshire Registration Number: 144 Registration district: Urquhart Civil parish: Urquhart County: Moray Address: Muir Of Locks Occupation: Ag Lab ED: 2 Household schedule number: 51 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1871_26 Household Members: Name Age Alexander McKenzie 36 Isabella McKenzie 35 Alexander McKenzie 11 James McKenzie 9 Jane Ann McKenzie 6 Jessie McKenzie 3 William James McKenzie 1 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Specialkg Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2371/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for an Alexander McKenzie born c 1832 Rathven in the 1871 census. His wife was Isabella and children James born c1862, Jane Ann c1864, Jessie c1867 and William c1870. All the children were born in Urquhart, Morayshire Any help with this would be much appreciated. Betty Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Christine, I have no connection to this family, but I enjoyed seeing photographs of the airplanes. May I correct you on the picture of the "Hotel Metropole, Hampshire"? This hotel is, in fact, the Hotel Metropole at Brighton in East Sussex. And a fairly recent picture of it, I think! Good luck with your researches, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: [MORAY] Mystery Photos--MACKIE---DEY---ADDISON---MCCOUBREY > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: christinecorene > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2370/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I have recently acquired a box full of old photos that may be from my > MACKIE--ADDISON--MCCOUBREY--DEY family lines in the Huntly, Cairney, > Dufftown and surrounding areas. Please follow this link to view the pics > and please let me know if anyone has a match!!! > > http://www.queenslandfamilytrees.com/showalbum.php?albumID=1... > > Christine > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: christinecorene Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2370/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have recently acquired a box full of old photos that may be from my MACKIE--ADDISON--MCCOUBREY--DEY family lines in the Huntly, Cairney, Dufftown and surrounding areas. Please follow this link to view the pics and please let me know if anyone has a match!!! http://www.queenslandfamilytrees.com/showalbum.php?albumID=1... Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Greetings from Melbourne. Did anyone else on the Moray list have an ancestor-relative who went to Jamaica to grow sugar cane or any other farming venture? My ancestor William MACKIE and his wife Elspet ROY went to Jamaica about 1800 and their 4 children were born there. They returned to Forres in 1818. I wonder if William Mackie was part of an organised company, or if he decided to go there on his own initiative. Any information about such a venture from Scotland to Jamaica would be interesting. Helen

Hi Goldie Re slaves with Scottish surnames. Many Black British who have come to Britain from the West Indies, have Scottish surnames. It is a result of, I am ashamed to say, the many Scottish slave owners on the sugar plantations. Many black West Indians were descended from the children of slave owners who were 'over friendly' with their female slaves. And I think that it was not uncommon for slaves to take on the surname of their owners. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "goldie and Lido Doratti" <lidogold2@shaw.ca> To: <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Moray Scots to Jamaica I can tell a story about a colored man > with the last name of Innes who happened into a store in the western US. > My > step-brother was helping him select a pair of shoes, when the colored man > noticed the name label on my step-brothers jacket; also Innes. Years > later > when I started doing genealogy, my step-brother asked me how this could be > since I had told him the Innes family was from Scotland via > Flanders........I have since wondered if the answer was that the colored > man > was one of the ancestors of the slaves on the plantation in Jamaica.

This is true, what you say. Casts a sorry eye on the owner, doesn't it? But we would be remiss if we didn't think about this. I told you about the Innes fellow from Elgin.....and now have spent 3 hours or so going thru the books to find out how I knew that. I spend hours reading and absorbing info on the Innes clan, then don't go back to them for a few months, and go brain dead. When I find the story I'll email and tell you who it was. I seem to recall his sons were also involved in Jamacia as well. Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> To: <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Moray Scots to Jamaica > Hi Goldie > > Re slaves with Scottish surnames. Many Black British who have come to > Britain from the West Indies, have Scottish surnames. It is a result of, > I > am ashamed to say, the many Scottish slave owners on the sugar > plantations. > Many black West Indians were descended from the children of slave owners > who > were 'over friendly' with their female slaves. And I think that it was not > uncommon for slaves to take on the surname of their owners. > > Rhoda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "goldie and Lido Doratti" <lidogold2@shaw.ca> > To: <moray@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Moray Scots to Jamaica > > > I can tell a story about a colored man >> with the last name of Innes who happened into a store in the western US. >> My >> step-brother was helping him select a pair of shoes, when the colored man >> noticed the name label on my step-brothers jacket; also Innes. Years >> later >> when I started doing genealogy, my step-brother asked me how this could >> be >> since I had told him the Innes family was from Scotland via >> Flanders........I have since wondered if the answer was that the colored >> man >> was one of the ancestors of the slaves on the plantation in Jamaica. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Forgot to say the Innes family was from Elgin.....Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <phreich@alphalink.com.au> To: <MORAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [MORAY] Moray Scots to Jamaica > Greetings from Melbourne. Did anyone else on the Moray list have an > ancestor-relative who went to Jamaica to grow sugar cane or any other > farming venture? My ancestor William MACKIE and his wife Elspet ROY went > to Jamaica about 1800 and their 4 children were born there. They returned > to Forres in 1818. > I wonder if William Mackie was part of an organised company, or if he > decided to go there on his own initiative. Any information about such a > venture from Scotland to Jamaica would be interesting. > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In the Book 'The House of Innes' put out by the Innes Clan Society there is a story of an Innes family who bought a plantation in Jamaica. The family was into shipping as well. The long and short of it is that Mr. Innes wanted to free the slaves that came with the plantation. The neighbors objected saying their slaves would then want their freedom. In the end Mr. Innes won out.......and ironically, I can tell a story about a colored man with the last name of Innes who happened into a store in the western US. My step-brother was helping him select a pair of shoes, when the colored man noticed the name label on my step-brothers jacket; also Innes. Years later when I started doing genealogy, my step-brother asked me how this could be since I had told him the Innes family was from Scotland via Flanders........I have since wondered if the answer was that the colored man was one of the ancestors of the slaves on the plantation in Jamaica. I have done much reading and it seems to be a common thing to do when they were freed. They had first names, but no last names and they sometimes took the name of the plantation or the owner, out of respect. How else to explain it? I mean no disrespect to anyone here, but that's the story. Would be interesting to be able to find the fellow and see if I could back track his ancestry; I'm sure the story would be very interesting. Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen" <phreich@alphalink.com.au> To: <MORAY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: [MORAY] Moray Scots to Jamaica > Greetings from Melbourne. Did anyone else on the Moray list have an > ancestor-relative who went to Jamaica to grow sugar cane or any other > farming venture? My ancestor William MACKIE and his wife Elspet ROY went > to Jamaica about 1800 and their 4 children were born there. They returned > to Forres in 1818. > I wonder if William Mackie was part of an organised company, or if he > decided to go there on his own initiative. Any information about such a > venture from Scotland to Jamaica would be interesting. > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

My "comprehensive" reply is due to the fact that every once in awhile, I like to get my research interests into the list archives (but also like to be clear that my findings are not Gospel)......not very many folks looking for Calder's so when a query is posted....I become a tad greedy :) I have never given up hope that someday I will find a link to my fourth great's immediate family (James Calder born 1785 Nairnshire); conversely, I am not very aggressive with regard to posting my interests to the lists unless someone inquires (at that point would like to post the entire family tree!!) With regard to Rathven, my earlier post pertained to a Calder descendent who married a Pirie and eventually settled in the Rathven area... James Calder / Katharine MacCurrach had a son John Calder in 1763/1765 Nairn, Nairnshire. John Calder married Margaret Bain in 1785 Nairn, Nairnshire. They in turn had a daughter Alexandrina in 1796 Nairn, Nairnshire. Alexandrina Calder married James Rose in 1826 Nairn, Nairnshire and they in turn had a daughter Helen born 1829 Forres, Morayshire. Helen Calder married Alexander Pirie in 1851 Auldearn, Nairnshire and it is this family who ended up in the Rathven area. More than you wanted to know but certainly glad you replied..........for the list archives :) Sherry

Sherry, From that comprehensive reply it seems clear that there is no close connection between your Calder family and ours. It was the mention of Rathven somewhere in your earlier comments that twitched my ears. As you say, it is fun! Tom > As far as I know, my Calder's were from Nairnshire but have not been able > to > follow all of the family. There was an Isabella born to a James Calder in > 1754 Nairn, Nairnshire, two years after the marriage below. I have not > been > able to do anything with her. > > My Calder family begins with James Calder who married Katharine MacCurrach > (Keathiren McQuirch) in 1752 Nairn (and in this record they were not > proclaimed married). At the time that James "married" Katharine, he was > residing in Auldearn, Nairnshire and Katharine in Nairn, Nairnshire. At > the > time their children were baptized (1754-1765), mothers were not listed on > most records that I viewed. As such, much of my research is based on > assumption, i.e., witnesses at christening records, a timeline as to whom > was born at what time versus who was married at what time, guilty by > association, etc. :) > > Of course, nothing is cast in stone as this entire family could have went > unrecorded......yet another variable that has to be considered. > > All I know with certainty is that my 4th great, James Calder was born in > Nairn (on his death record), he married Janet MacIntosh (listed on the > death > record of his daughter Anne Calder), had 9 documented children and > emigrated > to Canada in 1832 (land deed dated December 1832 records James "lately > from > Scotland"). His son William, buried at the Cedar Creek Cemetery (North > Dumfries, Waterloo, Ontario), is listed as being a "Native of Nairn". His > daughter, Isabella who married James Forsyth from Duffus is buried at the > Gore Cemetery (Clanbrassil, Oneida Twp., Haldimand, Ontario), listed as > being "Native of Nairnshire". > > Anything past James Calder is a gray area...........but it certainly has > been fun trying to solve it! > > Sherry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content > by the SmallWorld MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the SmallWorld MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ---------------------------------------------------------------