Ben it is interesting how all these families intertwine thru marriage. I don't have a Richmond Terrill in my data base. You mention that he is related to aspiring presidential candidates That's a shame, but you know we all have black sheep in our family. I must have put Richmond back in the closet TIC. In a message dated 3/4/2008 9:53:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, asiperceive@yahoo.com writes: Thanks James. I’ve added Ruby Frances (Terrill) Magruder (b. 1911) to my database. The name Ruby Terrill sounded familiar. I suppose my mother (b. 1907) must have mentioned her occasionally. Ruby’s father was a second cousin to Rev. James Robert Terrrill (b. 1878) who was married to Mom’s beloved Aunt “Dana” Holtzclaw. Apparently my closest common ancestor with Ruby was my father’s 6th G-grandfather Roger Mallory (b.1637). In my database, I’m showing Ruby’s ancestor Richmond Terrill (b. 1624) as also an ancestor of President Jimmy Carter and an ancestor of Presidential aspirant Barack Obama. -- Ben Hardin --- ITSJBAGBY@aol.com wrote: > I was going thru my data for up dates. I had this > women alive in 2005. > Found her in SSDI. > Ruby Frances (Terrill) Magruder > b:12-24-1911 Randolph CO MO. > d: 6-16-2007 Moberly Regional Hospital > Buried in Higbee City Cemetery. > Ruby was the wife/ widow of David Thomas Magruder > Wed. ? > She was the daughter of John Brackinridge Terrill & > Martha Allice Hayden. > g/parents were William C Terrill & Susan Frances > Bagby. > > Her Obituary is found in Columbia Daily Tribune. > it reads thus, > > > Columbia Daily Tribune (MO) - June 18, 2007 > Deceased Name: Ruby Magruder, 1911-2007 > Ruby Francis Magruder passed away Saturday, June > 16, 2007, at Moberly > Regional Hospital after a long illness. > Services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday, June 19, at > Higbee Baptist Church, with > visitation from noon until time of services. Burial > will be in Higbee City > Cemetery. > She is survived by two sons, David "Terry" and Tanya > Magruder of Moberly, > Ron Magruder and Shirley Lee of Columbia; one > daughter, Martha Ann and Arthur > Zambile of Columbia; three grandchildren; and four > great-grandchildren. > Memorials may be made to Higbee Baptist Church or > the Central Missouri > Humane Society. > Million-Taylor Funeral Home in Moberly is in charge > of arrangements. > Copyright, 2007, Columbia Daily Tribune > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Does any list member have any data on David Thomas > Magruter ? b: I have > 1905, nothing else > James M Bagby Indep, MO > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Hi James. As iron sharpens iron, your reply prompted me to reexamine the credibility of my data and for a while I was just about ready to shove Richmond back into the closet too. There is a lot of confusion to be observed from information in a lot of Rootsweb databases as it pertains to early Terrills in America. The confusion is in who begat whom and the dates involved are all over the place. Looking through your internet-posted familytreemaker database it seemed to me you have it pretty well together. I found few Rootsweb databases displaying and fitting together, as you do, Timothy Terrill as son of William Terrill and Susannah Waters and husband of Elizabeth Foster and father of Robert Terrill (b. 1697). Moreover, Rootsweb Bob Suddath’s Rootsweb database named :2911729 boasts notes and sources and shows your William Terrill’s g-grandparents as William Terrill and Margaret Richmond/Webb. Suddath’s database also is consistent with your familytreemaker database and it shows Richmond Terrill as the father of your William Terrill who was married to Susannah Waters. I mentioned President Jimmy Carter and President-aspirant Barack Obama before but incidentally I also show William and Susannah were ancestors of my 5C3R Lucy Burruss who married my 3C5R John D. Fristoe. Fristoe was a g-uncle of the notorious Thomas Coleman “Cole” Younger. -- Ben Hardin --- ITSJBAGBY@aol.com wrote: > > Ben it is interesting how all these families > intertwine thru marriage. > I don't have a Richmond Terrill in my data base. > You mention that he is related to aspiring > presidential candidates > That's a shame, but you know we all have black sheep > in our family. > I must have put Richmond back in the closet TIC. >