Hi Matt, I also have Granville OWEN and I am including the info I have. The ages in the census appear to be a little off or else I read it wrong. Do you have further info on Granville OWEN family? I don't think my John James OWEN is the same as the James on this family. I am leaning to Thomas James OWEN as being the father of John James OWEN and will send that info also. I tend to think the OWEN came from Madison Co., KY along with the PAGE, MORIN, FISHBACK, etc. But I am sure open to suggestions. Here is what I have on Granville OWEN and appreciate any further info you have on them. Husband: Granville OWEN Birth: 1796/1804 Place: Campbell Co., KY Marriage: 19 Dec 1826 Place: Campbell Co., KY Wife: Martha "Patsy" McKINSAY Birth: 15 May 1800 Place: Bourbon Co., KY Father: William McKINSAY Children... 1. M Child: James C. OWEN Birth: About 1828 Place: Kentucky Spouse: Mary E. BALL Marriage: 1 Sep 1850 Place: Randolph Co., MO 2. F Child: Ann OWEN Birth: About 1831 Place: KY 3. F Child: Nancy OWEN Birth: About 1834 Place: KY Husbands Notes... Notes: Marriages of Campbell, Boone and Kenton Counties, Kentucky, 1795-1850 OWEN, Granville & Patsy MCKINSAY, 19 Dec. 1826, m by WH, b Adam McKinsay, consent by father William McKinsay, Campbell Co., KY 1850 Randolph Co., Missouri 983 OWEN G. 36 M KY $2000 (age must be 46) Martha 50 F KY James 23 M KY Ann 19 F KY Nancy 16 F KY 1860 Marion Twsp, Randolph Co., MO., PO Mitton (file 910)Union? Twsp. 702 699 OWENS, Granville, 56, m, w, farmer, 3800, 500, KY Martha, 62, f, w, KY Last Modified: 20 Feb 2000 Compiled by: Linda Manning Billings, Montana 59102 Jupep@aol.com In a message dated 6/4/00 11:33:01 AM, toffers@alltel.net writes: << Hi, I saw your posting on the Rootsweb mailing list. I was interested in John James Owen. I have a James Owen in my family tree. He was the son of Granville Owen and Martha(Patsy) McKinsey. They lived in Kentucky but moved to Moberly, Missouri in the late 1850's. I had James being born in 1827 and with two sisters, Ann and Nancy. Do you think this is the same person. Thanks, Matt McKinsey >>