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    1. [MORANDOL-L] Sebastian Williams
    2. Carolyn Gibbons
    3. Hello all of you out there. I know you will help I recently came across a Sebastian Williams and have no idea how to fit him in to my Colden Williams family. (Most of them were in Howard Co, but maybe slipped across the border now and then.) Colden (1763-1832) Williams and Mary Short (1769-1823) had among others a son Uriah1788-1841. He died intestate in Howard Co and according to the court records (30 Oct 1841) Colden J Williams and Sebastian Williams were the administers and posted bond. Although Colden became a common name in the family (most descendants had at least one in the family either as a first or a middle name) this is the only Sebastian I have come across. Today while looking through the Randolph Co marriages I came across this entry: Williams, Sebastian & Evans, Mary Jane 5 (no month) 1841 Book A, page 62 There was also a John Williams who married an Ann Minter 2 Aug 1830, Book A, page 5. I didn't go past the 1st page in the index because I ran out of time. Can anyone here tell me who this Sebastian is and give any link to Uriah Williams and/or Colden Williams of Howard Co??? Carolyn c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net

    06/10/2000 08:06:15
    1. Re: [MORANDOL-L] Sebastian Williams
    2. Lou & Anna Myers
    3. Ditto, I also have been searching for Sebastion Williams and I have a copy (in the pile someplace) of the document you are referring to. Also had exchanges with someone else who was looking for Sebastion. If anyone has any info please post for the benefit of all. Thanks Lou Myers

    06/11/2000 08:00:40
    1. Re: [MORANDOL-L] Sebastian Williams
    2. Beth Wilson
    3. Howard County Land Deeds Volume 1, page 187 15 January 1844 Uriah Williams, dec. Land Partition among George W. and Cassander Brashear; Reuben and Margaret Watts; George W. Williams; Colden J. Williams; Martha Jane Williams; Mary Francis Williams; Sebastian C. Williams; William D. Williams. Mary Francis Williams married John Withers. (Howard County Deeds, Volume 1, page 180) Beth Wilson Carolyn Gibbons wrote: > Hello all of you out there. I know you will help > > I recently came across a Sebastian Williams and have no idea how to fit him > in to my Colden Williams family. (Most of them were in Howard Co, but maybe > slipped across the border now and then.) > > Colden (1763-1832) Williams and Mary Short (1769-1823) had among others a > son Uriah1788-1841. He died intestate in Howard Co and according to the > court records (30 Oct 1841) Colden J Williams and Sebastian Williams were > the administers and posted bond. Although Colden became a common name in > the family (most descendants had at least one in the family either as a > first or a middle name) this is the only Sebastian I have come across. > Today while looking through the Randolph Co marriages I came across this > entry: > Williams, Sebastian & Evans, Mary Jane 5 (no month) 1841 Book A, page 62 > There was also a John Williams who married an Ann Minter 2 Aug 1830, Book A, > page 5. I didn't go past the 1st page in the index because I ran out of > time. > > Can anyone here tell me who this Sebastian is and give any link to Uriah > Williams and/or Colden Williams of Howard Co??? > > Carolyn > c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net

    06/11/2000 09:43:07
    1. Re: [MORANDOL-L] Sebastian Williams
    2. Beth Wilson
    3. Looking at this deed I see Mary Williams is mentioned as widow of Uriah and deed says "make partition of the remainder of (land) between the several heirs of the said Deceased..." Keep in mind that the word heir doesn't necessarily mean child of . Beth Beth Wilson wrote: > Howard County Land Deeds > Volume 1, page 187 > 15 January 1844 > Uriah Williams, dec. > Land Partition among > George W. and Cassander Brashear; Reuben and Margaret Watts; George W. Williams; > Colden J. Williams; Martha Jane Williams; Mary Francis Williams; Sebastian C. > Williams; William D. Williams. > > Mary Francis Williams married John Withers. (Howard County Deeds, Volume 1, page > 180) > > Beth Wilson > > Carolyn Gibbons wrote: > > > Hello all of you out there. I know you will help > > > > I recently came across a Sebastian Williams and have no idea how to fit him > > in to my Colden Williams family. (Most of them were in Howard Co, but maybe > > slipped across the border now and then.) > > > > Colden (1763-1832) Williams and Mary Short (1769-1823) had among others a > > son Uriah1788-1841. He died intestate in Howard Co and according to the > > court records (30 Oct 1841) Colden J Williams and Sebastian Williams were > > the administers and posted bond. Although Colden became a common name in > > the family (most descendants had at least one in the family either as a > > first or a middle name) this is the only Sebastian I have come across. > > Today while looking through the Randolph Co marriages I came across this > > entry: > > Williams, Sebastian & Evans, Mary Jane 5 (no month) 1841 Book A, page 62 > > There was also a John Williams who married an Ann Minter 2 Aug 1830, Book A, > > page 5. I didn't go past the 1st page in the index because I ran out of > > time. > > > > Can anyone here tell me who this Sebastian is and give any link to Uriah > > Williams and/or Colden Williams of Howard Co??? > > > > Carolyn > > c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net

    06/11/2000 09:58:23
    1. Re: [MORANDOL-L] Sebastian Williams
    2. Carolyn Gibbons
    3. This gives me much to think about. One would think that the land would be partitiouned among all the children. However: From other sources (obituary of daughter Priscilla md John Thompson 1916) I get a very different picture of the children. And where is she among all of this? First off, let me admit that my listing of the children is PROBABLY incomplete because I have the first one born 1812 and they were married in 1807.And my order is probably wrong. But here goes: Uriah Melton Williams son of Colden C Williams (1763-1832) and Mary Short (1769-1823) born 26 Apr/20 Sep 1788 (researchers gave the April, Ellsberry gives the Sep from tombstone) d 27 Oct 1841 Howard Co per tombstone, buried Fayette Cemetery. Md 24 Dec 1807 Christian Co KY Mary Thompson daughter of John Thompson (1751-1818) and Mary Jefferies (1756-1815). Mary wasa born 15 Feb 1787 in SC (or KY or MO - have info naming all three) and died 16 Apr 1858 per her tombstone. Eight known children, but I do not know the order. William D Williams b 22 Sep 1812 KY died 12 Dec 1893 and is buried in Fayette City Cemetery. He married Hannah A Rupe (1816-1887) on 17 Feb 1834 in Howard Co. I have him on the 1850, 1860, 1870 and 1880 censuses. George W Williams b ca 1822 MO. I BELIEVE he died at Camp Chase, OH 2 Feb 1865, but that could have been another man of the same name. Priscilla H Williams b Jun 1834 MO d 9 Jul 1916 Higbee, Randolph Co MO. She md 22 May 1851 John F Thompson, first cousin, marriage performed by William K Woods. I have found her on the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880 and 1900 census; in 1900 she says she had 12 children, 10 still living and claims both parents born in MO but I don't think so. When she died in 1916 the obit named her surviving brothers and sisters which is how I got the remaining 5 siblings. James Williams - Jul 1916 was living near Fayette. John Williams - Jul 1916 was living in Kansas City MO. Elizabeth Williams - Jul 1916 was living in the vicinity of Higbee, Randolph Co, and had the married name of Avery. David H Williams - Jul 1916 was living in CA. Uriah G Williams - Jul 1916 was living in CA. It is extremely unlikely that any of the last 5 were born before William - maybe before George and probably before Priscilla. How I have them listed is James b ca 1808, John b ca 1810 then William, then Elizabeth, David and Uriah and finally Priscilla. At 2 year intervals (1 year for the first child) that works out and leaves a space for Sebastian. Now where was Elizabeth mentioned in the partition??? And where was Priscilla? I can easily see that Colden should be another child - almost everybody in the crowd had at least one Colden - and Sebastian was dead before 1916 as was Colden I am sure. Martha Jane and Mary Frances young ones still at home and not yet married. Were George W and Cassandra Brashears another daughter and husband? And how about Ruben and Margaret Watts? Has my whole life been a lie? Priscilla is really somebody else? No, no don't tell me that!!! It is starting to look to me as if she was really the daughter of somebody else. And I think that somebody else might be her "uncle" John C Williams, husband of the Sarah Chism who started this. Ann, we are closer than I thought. The only problem with this is --- gives me John, David and Uriah to be her sibs when she died, but waht about James and Elizabeth? I suppose it is remotely possible for James to be either James Willoughby or Willoughby James, called Willoughby on the 1850 census and James in later life; the same for Elizabeth named either Sarah Elizabeth or Elizabeth Sarah or since there were two Sarahs on the census that somebody made a mistake. Alternatively, the 1st Sarah was just visiting. The whole census was disturbing when I looked at it. Ms. Ellsberry had 2 families put together. Can I get more help??? (All in all, I really think that Priscilla is NOT the daughter of Uriah as I was told 25 years ago). Oh, per my Ancestry CD for marriages: Reuben Watts md Margaret Williams15 Dec 1842 and George Brashear md Cassil D Wiliams 20 Jun 1835, both in Howard Co. Thanks again Beth. Carolyn c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Beth Wilson <swilson@loop.com> To: Carolyn Gibbons <c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net> Cc: <MORANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [MORANDOL-L] Sebastian Williams > Howard County Land Deeds > Volume 1, page 187 > 15 January 1844 > Uriah Williams, dec. > Land Partition among > George W. and Cassander Brashear; Reuben and Margaret Watts; George W. Williams; > Colden J. Williams; Martha Jane Williams; Mary Francis Williams; Sebastian C. > Williams; William D. Williams. > > Mary Francis Williams married John Withers. (Howard County Deeds, Volume 1, page > 180) > > > > Beth Wilson > > Carolyn Gibbons wrote: > > > Hello all of you out there. I know you will help > > > > I recently came across a Sebastian Williams and have no idea how to fit him > > in to my Colden Williams family. (Most of them were in Howard Co, but maybe > > slipped across the border now and then.) > > > > Colden (1763-1832) Williams and Mary Short (1769-1823) had among others a > > son Uriah1788-1841. He died intestate in Howard Co and according to the > > court records (30 Oct 1841) Colden J Williams and Sebastian Williams were > > the administers and posted bond. Although Colden became a common name in > > the family (most descendants had at least one in the family either as a > > first or a middle name) this is the only Sebastian I have come across. > > Today while looking through the Randolph Co marriages I came across this > > entry: > > Williams, Sebastian & Evans, Mary Jane 5 (no month) 1841 Book A, page 62 > > There was also a John Williams who married an Ann Minter 2 Aug 1830, Book A, > > page 5. I didn't go past the 1st page in the index because I ran out of > > time. > > > > Can anyone here tell me who this Sebastian is and give any link to Uriah > > Williams and/or Colden Williams of Howard Co??? > > > > Carolyn > > c.n.gibbons@worldnet.att.net >

    06/11/2000 01:55:54