Just a teeny bit more; went searching through the census; found Elvira with her new husband. It looks as if he were married before, also. They were all listed as Bass in Nemaha Precinct, Nemaha County, Nebraska 11 Aug 1870; Household 39/Family 39 Bass, Moses, 42, farmer, ---/$300, NC Elvira, 34, f, Keeping House, MO James, 14, At Home, MO, at school David, 12, At Home, MO, 15 school William, 8, At Home, MO Joseph, 7, At Home, MO Assuming we are all correct about Joseph's birthdate (and looks like from the death of Joseph Sr), Moses must have had David before; William is anyone's guess. And I guess Frances was married by then. Carolyn