All of this talk about Kentucky has peaked my interest. My husband's family (RANKIN, TIPPIT, LITTLE) were from Higbee, Randolph County, but my mother's side was from Kentucky, and it just happens that my gggrandmother was Lucy FITZPATRICK who married John GRASTY and died in Rock Castle, Trigg County, Kentucky on 6 October 1839. I realize it is a strettttttch, but would there be any connection to Howard Fitzpatrick???? Alice in Arizona ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > In the early period prior to the Rev. War, people would move on West due > to > Primogeniture. Only the oldest son would inherit the farm and the younger > must > become professional or work for someone. The younger sons would receive > household goods, furniture, money, dads old Kentucky rifle or such. That > gave them a > stake to head west and find property of their own. The old Indian Road > down > the Valley of Virginia became a major highway of that day. In 1775 Daniel > Boone > and a large party of axe men cleared the Wilderness Road over the > Cumberland > Gap from VA into Ky. That opened KY for settlement. Daniel Boone and Dr > Thomas > Walker were Land Agents and largely responsible for the Westward expansion > prior to the Louis & Clark period. I see a major exit of KY in favor of MO > starting in <1820> and lasting for 20 years. Was that a component of Louis > & Clark? > Maybe. > My g.g. grandmother was a HURT in KY with family from WINN, BARNETT, > TURNER, > PEYTON, LEFTWICH. ALLEN, CALLISON and many others. > > Howard Fitzpatrick > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

In a message dated 3/29/2006 8:23:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: So many families came from Madison County, Kentucky to Missouri - Johnson County, Boone, and Randolph. Does anyone know what prompted this movement??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------- Most early settlers were farmers, some improved their Ky land & sold it for a profit. Land was a lot cheaper in MO. as low a 9 cents an acre. Most were following the footprints made by Daniel Boon. I was puzzled why my ancestors came to, then Howard CO, in the winter months of 1827. I was advised the if traveling from Bourbon/Scott CO Ky to MO. wheather alone or with a large wagon convoy, Winter travel was easier to cross all the frozen rivers & creeks. 24 hwy was an indian trail. Others came by River transportation. Raft or barge, etc. Getting off somewhere near Glasgow, Traveling north looking for available land. Or looking for family or friends who were already here. Also MO. was a location that Ky men who served in the war of 1812, were able to file a claim for their land bounty, for their military service Im sure their were lots of other reasons for leaving KY & coming to MO. This is just my conclusions. James M. Bagby Indep, MO.

Not off hand. I can't recall Charles Ragsdale's middle name at the moment but Anderson seems right. He was married to Cassandra Chrisler. They had a bunch of children and were all very healthy (lived into their 80's and 90's) and somewhat prolific, so it wouldn't surprise me if some of them ended up in the Northeastern Oklahoma area. -----Original Message----- From: Cecil Boyd [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI Jane do you know if any of your Ragsdale family moved to the northeastern portion of Oklahoma? I have some Ragsdale relations that I believe came from Missouri to Oklahoma. Would the Charles Ragsdale you mentioned be Charles Anderson Ragsdale or one of his descendents? I am not closely related to this family that I know of, but I do have them in my database as very distant relations. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Debellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > My great-grandmother was Sallie Katherine Foreman daughter of Casey > Foreman and Elizabeth Garnett. Casey and his twin, Inskeep (as well as > another brother and cousins) attended one of the first schools in the > County. They migrated to Missouri in about 1820 or so. She had several > sisters and a couple of brothers. One sister was Eliza Jane who married > Leslie Delos Guile of Randolph County. That seems to have brought > Sallie and two of her sisters to Randolph County. Her younger sister > Josie married a McDaniel in Randolph County and I believe her sister > Belle also married a man from Randolph County. She married Thomas E. > Butterly of Moberly and they had a number of children with only my > grandfather and one sister making it into their 80's. Most died as > young adults it seems. > > Another sister was named Nancy and married Samuel Caldwell and they > remained in Marion County in the Palmyra area. The brother(s) are > something of a mystery. My great-grandmother is purported to have > "told" my mother and her siblings that one side of her family fought for > the Union and one on the Confederate side but I've never really > researched it enough to confirm this other than looking cursorily at a > few of the lists of units on both sides for skirmishes fought in the > general area. > > My direct Randolph County lines are the Michael Stipp's and Charles > Ragsdale's with a tie-in to some Owens' and Pattrick's. > > Jane DeBellis > Milton, Fl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > Who were your people in Marion Co? > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Carey, Definitely a small world, but then again my mother used to tell me we were related to a good third of Randolph County if we just searched hard enough. Of course many of my generation and my parents' generation moved on for a myriad of reasons just as our ancestors chose to settle in Missouri having been in Kentucky. I had 3 uncles who left Moberly at World War II--one settling in Denver, one in St. Louis (after having been several places in the Midwest), and one in Memphis after 30 years in the Navy. I think the difference with those leaving in the 20th Century and those leaving Kentucky 100 years later was leaving behind family or taking family with was no longer necessary to staying in close contact. I'm always amazed by the posting on this board how many names are familiar to me from having grown up in Randolph County, even though most discussions center around people 2 or more generations removed from myself. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI One of my Dad's sisters married a Wilford Caldwell, whose parents lived in Hannibal, but I believe they were of the Ralls Co Caldwells to the south. ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Does anyone know for sure which is the correct spelling of May Burton's wives maiden name? I have seen it spelled both Woodfolk and Woolfolk. The most common spelling I have found is Woolfolk. I show that this May Burton was married twice. Once to Nancy Woodfolk on 21 October 1805, and then a second time to Agnes Woodfolk sometime after 1836. (The marriage date for Agnes and May is based on the date of death of Nancy.) Thank you, Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Waters" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Irene Burton questions & May Medley Burton Obituary > This line can get very confusing as there are more than one May M. Burton > and they carried the names down the lines. May M. Burton and Nancy > Woolfolk had the following children, Joseph W., Burilla, Irene, Ambrose > W., William Woolfolk, May Medley, Edna, and John Care. > > Joseph W. and May Medley both had and Irene listed in the 1860 Census. In > Joseph household age 11, in May Medley, age 10. Both could have had > daughters named after their sister or as you state could have both listed > Irene. Joseph W. is my line. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:13 PM > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Irene Burton questions & May Medley Burton > Obituary > > >>I think you might be onto something here. I'd never taken the time to >> connect this before even though I have this thing for figuring out the >> Burton >> family. I have May Medley Burton's brother, Joseph Wisdom Burton, as >> being the >> father of a daughter named Irene Burton born 18 Mar 1850. This Irene >> does appear >> listed in her father's household in the 1850 and 1860 census records. I >> know >> that an Irene Burton also shows up in the 1860 census record in May >> Medley's >> household but it wouldn't be the first time someone got listed twice. >> Below is >> a obit for Joseph Wisdom's daughter that seems to explain why Irene was >> showing up in her uncle's household and confirm your theory that May >> Medley didn't have a daughter named Irene. >> >> >> 9 Oct 1908--MISS IRENE BURTON DEAD--The many Higbee friends and >> acquaintances >> of Miss Irene Burton were pained to learn of her death which occurred at >> the >> home of her uncle, Judge May M. Burton, at Huntsville Friday of last >> week. >> She had been a sufferer from cancer for several months and had only >> recently >> returned from St. Louis where she underwent an operation in the hope of >> relief. >> It only hastened her death, which came as a welcome relief from untold >> suffering. Miss Irene was a daughter of Joseph W. Burton of this place >> but had >> always lived with her uncle since her mother's death which occurred when >> she was >> but two years of age. She was about 58 years of age and was a lady of >> saintly >> character, being a devout and consistent member of the Christian church. >> Funeral services were held Sunday at the home of her father by Eld. E. Y, >> Keiter >> and the remains tenderly laid to rest in the Rennolds burying ground. >> The large >> crowd of sorrowing relatives and friends present spoke more eloquently >> than >> words of the high esteem in which she was held. The News joins the >> community in sympathy to the bereaved ones. >> >> Now I need to go off and fix my records and look up a few more census >> records for Irene. >> >> Carole

Jane do you know if any of your Ragsdale family moved to the northeastern portion of Oklahoma? I have some Ragsdale relations that I believe came from Missouri to Oklahoma. Would the Charles Ragsdale you mentioned be Charles Anderson Ragsdale or one of his descendents? I am not closely related to this family that I know of, but I do have them in my database as very distant relations. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Debellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > My great-grandmother was Sallie Katherine Foreman daughter of Casey > Foreman and Elizabeth Garnett. Casey and his twin, Inskeep (as well as > another brother and cousins) attended one of the first schools in the > County. They migrated to Missouri in about 1820 or so. She had several > sisters and a couple of brothers. One sister was Eliza Jane who married > Leslie Delos Guile of Randolph County. That seems to have brought > Sallie and two of her sisters to Randolph County. Her younger sister > Josie married a McDaniel in Randolph County and I believe her sister > Belle also married a man from Randolph County. She married Thomas E. > Butterly of Moberly and they had a number of children with only my > grandfather and one sister making it into their 80's. Most died as > young adults it seems. > > Another sister was named Nancy and married Samuel Caldwell and they > remained in Marion County in the Palmyra area. The brother(s) are > something of a mystery. My great-grandmother is purported to have > "told" my mother and her siblings that one side of her family fought for > the Union and one on the Confederate side but I've never really > researched it enough to confirm this other than looking cursorily at a > few of the lists of units on both sides for skirmishes fought in the > general area. > > My direct Randolph County lines are the Michael Stipp's and Charles > Ragsdale's with a tie-in to some Owens' and Pattrick's. > > Jane DeBellis > Milton, Fl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > Who were your people in Marion Co? > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >

Woolfolk!

In a message dated 3/28/2006 11:15:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Tolman Burton (b.1855) died (or was murdered) in Randolph Co.in 1925. He had married Flora Rogers between 1880 & 1883. Flora died about 1890, according to Tolman's obituary. Tolman and Flora had a daughter named Flossie b. Sept/1884.I would appreciate any information on Flossie and/or the burial place of her Mother, Flora Rogers Burton. I have information to share on Flora Rogers family. Nancy I have a few notes from transcripts of "The Higbee News". I also have that Flossie died in 1953 and, according to "Records of Randolph County, Missouri 1833-1964" by Sherida K. Eddlemon, she is buried in the Burton Cemetery on Route B, Southeast of Higbee. Her mother Flora and sister Opal are also buried there. Flora and Opal both died in 1887. 25 Dec 1897--Higbee, MO, Dec 23, 1897--Dear Santa Claus--As Xmas is coming I want you to know what I want, I thought the best way was to write to you. I want a gold watch chain, some games, a fairy story book, a little writing desk, a gold ring, a magic lantern and a pair of kid gloves. I will close my letter now and learn my lessons for school. Your friend, FLOSSIE G. BURTON. 11 Nov 1898--Little Flossie Burton had the misfortune to fall and break her right limb while at play Friday evening of last week. This makes the fourth time she has met with such an accident. Drs. Nichols and Burkhalter set the limb and report her as getting along nicely. 18 Nov 1898--ROOM 4--Since our last notes quite a serious accident has befallen one of our pupils. Last Friday week little Flossie Burton, shortly after returning home from school, fell and broke her right limb. She was running and playing with two of her little friends, when she stepped on a clod which turned under her foot, throwing her to the ground, causing the above accident. This accident will probably keep Flossie out of school this winter, but we hope she will be with us sooner. Flossie is an excellent pupil and we keenly feel her loss. Friday 29 May 1920, Vol 34, No 6--The many Higbee friends of Miss Flossie Burton, who has been living at Columbia for the past year, where she has a good position in one of that city's best photograph galleries, in which line of work she is an expert, will be pained to learn that she broke her right hip in a fall down stairs one day this week, her fall resulting from her ankle turning. She was taken at once to a hospital, and has since been doing nicely. As a child Miss Burton suffered more than her share of misfortune from broken bones, having broken arms or limbs a half dozen times or more. The present break makes the second time her hip has been broken. Her many friends join the NEWS in the hope that she will suffer no more such misfortunes. Carole

My great-grandmother was Sallie Katherine Foreman daughter of Casey Foreman and Elizabeth Garnett. Casey and his twin, Inskeep (as well as another brother and cousins) attended one of the first schools in the County. They migrated to Missouri in about 1820 or so. She had several sisters and a couple of brothers. One sister was Eliza Jane who married Leslie Delos Guile of Randolph County. That seems to have brought Sallie and two of her sisters to Randolph County. Her younger sister Josie married a McDaniel in Randolph County and I believe her sister Belle also married a man from Randolph County. She married Thomas E. Butterly of Moberly and they had a number of children with only my grandfather and one sister making it into their 80's. Most died as young adults it seems. Another sister was named Nancy and married Samuel Caldwell and they remained in Marion County in the Palmyra area. The brother(s) are something of a mystery. My great-grandmother is purported to have "told" my mother and her siblings that one side of her family fought for the Union and one on the Confederate side but I've never really researched it enough to confirm this other than looking cursorily at a few of the lists of units on both sides for skirmishes fought in the general area. My direct Randolph County lines are the Michael Stipp's and Charles Ragsdale's with a tie-in to some Owens' and Pattrick's. Jane DeBellis Milton, Fl -----Original Message----- From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI Who were your people in Marion Co? ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

In a message dated 3/29/2006 12:02:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: have Toleman on my tree..but never heard of a murder..would you mind sharing your obit? Donna Below is a transcript from The Higbee News courtesy of Kathy Bowlin Friday, 20 Mar 1925, Vol 38 No. 47, pg.1, col. 1 & 2; pg. 4 col. 3 & 4; pg. 8, col.2,3,4,5 & 6--GRUESOME AND MYSTERIOUS TRAGEDY--DEAD BODY OF TOLEMAN G. BURTON FOUND IN HOME IN POOL OF BLOOD--HAD BEEN DEAD THEN HOURS--NO SIGN OF STRUGGLE--CRIES OF "HELP!" HEARD BY MANY--WAS HE MURDERED OR HIT BY CAR?--TRAGEDY SEEMS TO BECOME MORE MYSTERIOUS--Sheriff McCanne and deputy Steve Jones were here late yesterday and gave it out that they had exhausted all clues, and that they had about arrived at the conclusion that Mr. Burton was struck by a car. No arrests are contemplated, they stated, and none will be made unless new evidence develops. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Tolman Gorham Burton was the son of Uncle Joe and Aunt Sally Burton, remembrance of whom is a benediction, and was born on October 30, 1855, in the house in which he died. He was married to a Miss Rogers of Chariton county in 1883, and who has been dead 35 years or more. He is survived by one daughter, Miss Flossie, of Columbia. He also leaves one sister, Mrs. J. M. Crew, of Muskogee, Okla., and three brothers--H. W. and Medley Burton of this place and J. R. Burton of Mystic, Ky.; also three half-brothers--Speed and Ben Burton of Norborne, Mo., and Thos. Burton of Huntsville. Funeral services were held at the Christian church Sunday afternoon by the pastor, the Rev. Egan Herndon of Centralia, it being the most largely attended of any held here in years, every available seat being taken long before the hour set for the service and hundreds were turned away. Interment was made in the Burton cemetery by the side of his parents and brothers and sisters. To the surviving relatives and especially to the daughter, the deepest sympathy of all goes out. This mysterious and brutal tragedy has cast a pall over the town and entire community, such as nothing ever did before, and all who saw the gruesome sight can't get it off their minds and each is endeavoring to work out a solution. The officers are busy and no stone will be left unturned by them or the people in general as long as there is a possibility of the guilty party being found out. Marshal Cain has offered on his own initiative a reward of $100 for arrest and conviction of the guilty parties, and this will no doubt be added to, as it should be.

Madison County people are the Bradleys, Roberts, Lewis etc. -----Original Message----- From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI Who were your people in Marion Co? ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

In a message dated 3/29/2006 9:34:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The same is true with Jessamine Co, KY. The Higbee family, for whom the town was named, was from there as were the Owens and Bakers, as I recall, and possibly Joel Smith of 'Smithland' fame, but I'd have to re-read some info to be sure of that. The brothers John LESSLY and James LESSLEY were also from Jessamine Co., KY. The PATTRICKS, who were related to the OWENS, probably also set out from Jessamine Co. Hezekiah PATTRICK was said to have been born in Fayette Co., KY but his father appears in Jessamine Co. in the 1830 census (right next to an OWENS brother-in-law). Family stories place the move of the PATTRICKs in 1830. The LESSLY are harder to pin down but given the birthplaces listed for children - their move probably occured in the mid 1830s. Carole

One of my Dad's sisters married a Wilford Caldwell, whose parents lived in Hannibal, but I believe they were of the Ralls Co Caldwells to the south.

Generally speaking this movement was not atypical. On one of my non-Randolph County lines, most of my antecedents moved first from Orange County, VA to Bourbon County, KY and then to Marion County, MO. It seems this came together with an opening of the territory to settlement and families and neighbors moving together--especially those of the generation ready to set off on their own. I know that at one time a couple of U of Missouri professors had an interest in this migration--I think one was in the History Department and another in the Rural Sociology Department (but that was 20 some years ago when I was a student and I can't tell you how old it makes me feel to read of my professors retiring in the alumni magazine). If you are near an academic library you can likely find several well-written discussions of migration patterns across the US. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL -----Original Message----- From: Hamp Williams [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI So many families came from Madison County, Kentucky to Missouri - Johnson County, Boone, and Randolph. Does anyone know what prompted this movement??? ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Well, I don't know if there are any of the Rennolds family living in Higbee now but there used to be. I think it is just a variation spelling of the name. Tamara Easley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Flannigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] May Medley BURTON/Minerva E. BROOKS > > Very interesting. Do you think that is the correct spelling, or > is it the more tranditional spelling of Reynolds? > > > Mike > > > On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, [email protected] wrote: >>For those who may not be familiar with such things, what we now refer to >>as the Burton >>Cemetery just south of Higbee was once, according to items in 'The Higbee >>News,' called >>the Rennolds burying ground. There are a number of Rennolds' buried >>there. > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

So many families came from Madison County, Kentucky to Missouri - Johnson County, Boone, and Randolph. Does anyone know what prompted this movement???

Who were your people in Marion Co?

Yes, some conversations I had years ago with now deceased individuals in Higbee indicated, as I recall, that it was an assumption that Tole Burton was knocked in the head, possibly on returning from a walk into town, and then dragged into the house where the body was found. Nothing ever came of the investigation as I recall.

The same is true with Jessamine Co, KY. The Higbee family, for whom the town was named, was from there as were the Owens and Bakers, as I recall, and possibly Joel Smith of 'Smithland' fame, but I'd have to re-read some info to be sure of that.

Very interesting. Do you think that is the correct spelling, or is it the more tranditional spelling of Reynolds? Mike On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, [email protected] wrote: >For those who may not be familiar with such things, what we now refer to as the Burton >Cemetery just south of Higbee was once, according to items in 'The Higbee News,' called >the Rennolds burying ground. There are a number of Rennolds' buried there.