Although the cemeteries in Randolph County are not under threat due to rapid growth and development, the following story highlights the importance of preserving our rural family cemeteries. I thought this would be of interest to everyone! >Subj: [LCT] From yesterday's Washington Post on cemeteries in the South >Date: 3/28/2006 2:52:25 PM Pacific Standard Time > >More Family Cemeteries Dying Away in the South >As Rural Land is Developed, Ancestral Graves are Relocated, Bulldozed or >Encircled by Construction > >By Theo Emery >Special to The Washington Post >Monday, March 27, 2006; A03 > > > >LEBANON, Tenn. -- At the end of Bettis Road, across a padlocked gate and up a grassy hillside lane, generations of James Jordan's ancestors llie buried atop a wooded knoll -- for now. > >A rusty fence encircles the cemetery, and tilted headstones point skyward >amid the leaves. Walking among the locust trees, Jordan points out graves >of long-dead kin, including the Chandler family matriarch who left >instructions and money for preserving the cemetery. > >"It's a shame," said Jordan, 51. "She died thinking that she had preserved >the cemetery." > >The hilltop, about 25 miles east of Nashville, won't be Jordan's ancestral >resting place much longer. Green flags mark the Chandler cemetery, which >includes graves of Revolutionary and Civil War veterans, slaves and >generations of a sprawling Colonial family. They will soon be moved so that >a factory or warehouse -- the developer is not yet sure -- can be built >nearby. > >Throughout the South, family cemeteries pepper the landscape. But as cities from Atlanta to Memphis radiate rapidly outward, the growth is swallowing >rural land that swaddles the graves. > >In Tennessee alone, dozens of long-hidden cemeteries appear each year -- >sometimes in mid-construction -- creating headaches for builders and >heartaches for families of the dead. Some cemeteries are moved at >landowners' expense. Those that stay sometimes become forlorn islands of >green amid parking lots and suburban developments. Others are paved over or bulldozed. > >The conflict between growth and graves in the region has long been cause >for concern among preservationists, who worry that development endangers a cultural heritage buried in the soil and chiseled in its headstones. > >Ian W. Brown, an anthropology professor at the University of Alabama, >described family cemeteries as "outdoor museums" that are threatened >throughout the South. > >"A lot of the land has been sold, abandoned, come under forest, things like >that," he said. "People are concerned with them in a general fashion, but >unless it's your family, no one's tending them." > >In Tennessee, as in other Southern states, farm families in centuries past >tended to bury their dead on their own land, allowing for quick interment >and easy oversight of graves. In the Northeast, by contrast, families were >more likely to use public burial grounds and church cemeteries. > >"The Southern pattern was that every farm or plantation would have their >family cemetery," said Charles Reagan Wilson, director of the Center for >the Study of Southern Culture at the University of Mississippi. > >Over the years, many families dispersed, undergrowth overtook the >headstones and deeds changed hands. Some cemeteries -- particularly those where black families buried their kin -- used fieldstones as markers and are difficult to spot. > >State archaeologist Nick Fielder estimates that there are 20,000 family >cemeteries in Tennessee, but there's no way to know for sure. There's no >central inventory, and most documentation is done by historians and >volunteers who scour records and trudge through meadows in search of >graves. > >Fielder says about 100 family cemeteries fall in the path of development in >Tennessee each year, about two times as many as a decade ago. Under state law, he said, there's nothing sacred about sites. Relatives of the deceased have no legal leverage over family plots they don't own, and landowners who can pay to move a cemetery need only a judge's approval. > >"You get to rest in peace -- unless someone wants to do something where you rest," he said. > >From the Chandler cemetery hillside, the future isn't far. Traffic rumbles >past on Highway 109. Shoemaker Genesco Inc. has a distribution center up the road, and Dell assembles computers at a factory a few miles away. > >The relocation to a spot near the property line is moving forward despite >the plans that Jordan's great-great-great grandmother left in her will for >the cemetery. The family has no choice, because a deed that left the >cemetery land to Chandler descendants was lost, as was family control over the plots. > >Tom White, a lawyer who represents the landowner, said the move will put >the graves closer to the road and away from what probably will be a large >building in the middle of the property. > >"I don't know how you could do it much more ideally than this," he said. > >In nearby Mount Juliet is an example of what can happen when development overtakes cemeteries. At Nashville Auto Auction, a chain-link fence encircles thousands of cars and trucks on a 265-acre lot. Behind another fence and surrounded by a sea of asphalt is a low hill with a tiny family cemetery on top, nearly buried under tree limbs and oak leaves. > >There are other examples. North of Nashville, a cemetery is tucked in a >highway cloverleaf. There's a family cemetery on the grounds of the city >zoo. One family cemetery south of Nashville is on the grounds of a hotel, >next to a parking lot. > >Today, local history buffs often keep an eye on cemeteries. After a Whites >Creek resident e-mailed about one, Fielder headed north on a recent >afternoon. Just past the post office, he drove over a partly bulldozed >field and stopped beside a mound set off with markers. > >On top were two tilted headstones and two more that were flat on the >ground. The graves lay on a lot line of the 26-unit subdivision, which was >mapped out on a billboard for passing motorists. > >Fielder took a long metal rod out of his truck and began plunging it into >the ground. He muttered "yup, yup" as the rod sank easily into the earth, >indicating that there probably were graves outside of the staked area. > >A pickup truck pulled off the road, and David Martin -- the man who had >e-mailed Fielder about the graves -- got out. Martin, 47, said he drew >attention to the cemetery because he was eager for it to be taken care of. > >"I think it's important that we honor these people. This is their final >resting place, and just because someone wants to put a house or a bridge or a shopping center on top of it doesn't mean that you have the right to do >that," Martin said. > >Richard Binkley, who's building the subdivision, said he feels responsible >for the dead on the property, but is torn about what to do. He bought and >sold another property that had graves on it, and said he thinks his own >family's cemetery was damaged by a careless developer. > >"It's hard to buy a piece of property now that's on the outskirts of town >that doesn't have a grave on it of some kind," he said. "It's come down to >the point now where we're running out of space." > >© 2006 The Washington Post Company

Hi Donna, A book entitled "The Boone Family," by Hazel Atterbury Spraker discusses the Burris and Tribble Families and their connection with the Boones on Page 513 - 515. The book discusses Thomas Burris of Orange Co., VA who married Frances Tandy and died in 1789 in Orange County. His daughter Sarah Burris was born 1753 and married Andrew Tribble -- the couple moved to KY in 1785. Apparently, the Boone connection is through descendants of this Andrew Tribble and Sarah Burris couple. I don't know if any of the names I mentioned mean anything to you, but perhaps this is the Boone connection your father-in-law had heard about? David donna <[email protected]> wrote: My father-in-law 83, always thought we may have been related to Daniel Boone (no findings yet) as he had heard the name mentioned when he was younger. Its possible he had heard the family left KY becasue Daniel Boone had found fertile lands. Our family is from Mercer County, KY *Ambrose Burton and Ann (Wisdom) Burton Children: (13) *Elijah H. b. about 1794 or Aug 13 1793 d. June 25 1853 m. Mercer County, KY (1)Polly Buris or Burris b. about 1795 d. Dec 25 1851 (2) Malinda Kirby. Came to Higbee MO about 1819 with two brothers May and James Burton . John m. Mercer County, KY 1814 Lucy Higgins May Burton Jr. b. Feb 6 1780 Orange County VA d. Jul 7 1859 m. Mercer County, KY Oct 21 1805 (1) Nancy Woodfolk m.Correction needed (Woolfolk) (2) Agnes Woodfolk (sister of Nancy) May was an early settler in KY, Veteran of the War of 1812. He was in Capt. William R. Rice's Co. & black Hawk War under Capt. Abraham Gooding. Came to Higbee MO with two brothers Elijah and James Burton Ambrose m. Mercer County, KY 1809 Jennie Jones Frances (f) m. Mercer County, KY 1809 James Armstron Doshia m. Mercer County, KY 1798 George Robinson Polly m. Mercer County, KY 1808 Kendal Brent Susanna m. Mercer County, KY 1810 William Daniel Phebe m. Mercer County, KY 1811 James Springer Elizabeth m. Mercer County, KY 1825 Rodney Combs James D. b. Dec 25 1793 d. Nov. 7 1863 m. Mercer County, KY 1807 Nancy m. Davis? or Betsy Beagler? Came to Higbee MO with two brothers May and Elijah Burton. Hannah m. Mercer County, KY 1787 Thomas Buckner Ivan m. ? ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

My father-in-law 83, always thought we may have been related to Daniel Boone (no findings yet) as he had heard the name mentioned when he was younger. Its possible he had heard the family left KY becasue Daniel Boone had found fertile lands. Our family is from Mercer County, KY *Ambrose Burton and Ann (Wisdom) Burton Children: (13) *Elijah H. b. about 1794 or Aug 13 1793 d. June 25 1853 m. Mercer County, KY (1)Polly Buris or Burris b. about 1795 d. Dec 25 1851 (2) Malinda Kirby. Came to Higbee MO about 1819 with two brothers May and James Burton . John m. Mercer County, KY 1814 Lucy Higgins May Burton Jr. b. Feb 6 1780 Orange County VA d. Jul 7 1859 m. Mercer County, KY Oct 21 1805 (1) Nancy Woodfolk m.Correction needed (Woolfolk) (2) Agnes Woodfolk (sister of Nancy) May was an early settler in KY, Veteran of the War of 1812. He was in Capt. William R. Rice's Co. & black Hawk War under Capt. Abraham Gooding. Came to Higbee MO with two brothers Elijah and James Burton Ambrose m. Mercer County, KY 1809 Jennie Jones Frances (f) m. Mercer County, KY 1809 James Armstron Doshia m. Mercer County, KY 1798 George Robinson Polly m. Mercer County, KY 1808 Kendal Brent Susanna m. Mercer County, KY 1810 William Daniel Phebe m. Mercer County, KY 1811 James Springer Elizabeth m. Mercer County, KY 1825 Rodney Combs James D. b. Dec 25 1793 d. Nov. 7 1863 m. Mercer County, KY 1807 Nancy m. Davis? or Betsy Beagler? Came to Higbee MO with two brothers May and Elijah Burton. Hannah m. Mercer County, KY 1787 Thomas Buckner Ivan m. ?

While we're on this subject of migrations, I thought I would also include my Tennessee ancestors (or ancestors with connections to TN)! My ggg grandfather Nathaniel Rice was born about 1794 possibly in North Carolina, but lived in Sumner Co., TN with a brief stop in Hopkins Co., KY before migrating to Randolph Co., Missouri around 1835. Nathaniel Rice's mother-in-law Nancy Ann Blackman (who married Isham Uzzell in 1792 in Johnston Co., NC) also joined the group and was listed in the 1850 Randolph County, MO census at the age of 80 years old! My gg grandmother Catherine Goodman who married William Stark in 1824 was born in 1803 in either Albemarle Co., VA or Rutherford Co., TN. Her family lived in Rutherford Co., TN until about 1817/1818 before her widowed mother (Jane Craig who married George Goodman in 1796 in Albemarle Co., VA) migrated north to Washington Co., Indiana to be near Jane's parents -- John Craig and Margaret (Maiden Name Unknown). From Washington Co., Indiana, Catherine Goodman and husband William Stark moved to Randolph Co., MO about 1825 (with that possible detour to Maury Co., TN that I mentioned in an earlier post). Also joining Catherine and William were Catherine's mother Jane who died in 1855 in Randolph Co., MO, in addition to Catherine's siblings James Goodman, Elizabeth Goodman (married to William Ware), Jane Goodman (married to William Finnell), and 1/2 brother William Fugate. Finally, my ggg grandfather John Martin was living in Tennessee prior to his arrival in Randolph Co., MO (before 1830), but I have not yet located the county. Census records for his older children indicate they were living in Kentucky, but his daughter Araminta was born about 1826 in Tennessee and married my German immigrant gg grandfather John Brown in 1843 in Howard Co., MO. David Brown

There was also an interesting migration from Caswell Co., NC to Randolph Co., MO, which occurred around 1830. The "caravan" included the following families: Dameron, Malone, Mathis, Upton, Jackson. Am I missing anyone? This migration is mentioned in the memoirs of George Washington Dameron, which was written in 1898. If memory serves, he stated that there were about 100 people in the "caravan" including slaves. My gggg grandparents Bartholomew Dameron and wife Rebecca Malone in addition to my ggg grandparents Alexander Morehead Dameron and wife Patsy Dupuy Dameron would have been in this group. I believe too that my ggg grandfather William Upton and wife Susannah Mathis in addition to William Upton's mother-in-law Nancy Ann Morehead Dameron (who married Vines Mathis in 1788 in Brunswick Co., VA) would have been in this group. I think William Upton's biography (which is also found in the George Washington Dameron memoirs mentions him having lived in Tennessee for a short period of time. David

I have several ancestral families who migrated from Kentucky to Missouri. Just as Cecy's ancestors lived along Paint Lick Creek in Garrard Co., KY, so did my Alexander ancestors. The Alexanders (including my ggg grandfather James Alexander and wife Elizabeth Logan as well as my gg grandfather John Alexander) moved to the southwestern corner of present-day Randolph County about 1826. Elizabeth Logan's mother was supposedly a Boone (related in some way to Daniel), but no proof has been found. My ggggg grandfather William Holman and wife Eleanor Barnes moved from Madison Co., KY to present-day Randolph Co., MO around 1817/1818. My ancestor Leonard Keeling Bradley, whose wife Mary "Polly" Boone was a daughter of Samuel Boone and niece of Daniel Boone moved from Fayette Co., KY to present-day Randolph County, MO in the early 1820's. Leonard Keeling Bradley brought his large family including son Terry Bradley who married Nancy Bryan Grimes, also a Boone descendant (her maternal grandparents being William Bryan and Mary Boone, sister of Daniel Boone). I also have a group of ancestors who moved to Randoph County in the late 1860's and early 1870's from Madison Co., KY including my gg grandfather Francis Jackson Parker and wife Dorcas Ann Freeman as well as my gg grandfather Ancel Daniel Asbell and wife Margaret Jaly Barnes. Finally, my Stark ancestors settled in Shelby Co., KY and Henry Co., KY in the 1780's having migrated there from Washington Co., PA. My gg grandfather William Stark was born in Shelby Co., KY in 1795, but moved to Washington Co., Indiana when very young. Later, William Stark and wife Catherine Goodman migrated to present-day Randolph Co., MO around 1825 (strangely, they may have taken a detour through Maury Co., Tennessee). David Brown Karl & Cecy Rice <[email protected]> wrote: Dear list Thanks for lots of good information about people who came here from KY. I have several families that came about 1819 from Garrard County, KY (formed from Madison Co. Kentucky in 1796) to Howard Co. Missouri - Denny, Best and Enyart. In KY they lived on Paint Lick Creek which is the dividing line between Madison and Garrard Counties, KY. The Denny family lived in both Howard and Randolph Co, MO - mostly Howard Co. right south of the Randolph Co line. Alexander Denny, the old man, sold his farm in Garrard Co, KY to his son George Denny for $2000 before he came. He brought lots of kids with him. Cecy ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Hi James, Well said! There have been books of late that are very critical of Daniel Boone. Unfortunately, this is a trend we see too often relative to the treatment of our American icons! I think too many of our current-day "politically correct" historians are more intent on tearing down the founders and trailblazers of our country than anything else (usually, they will resort to personal smears that really have no historical significance to the individual in question). I'm sure Daniel Boone had his faults (don't we all), but I also know that he (and his family) played a pivotal role in the early history and settlement of Kentucky. It is interesting to note that some 20 years after Daniel Boone's death in Missouri, the State of Kentucky was adamant that his body be exhumed and moved to Frankfort! To give Kentucky credit, they did build a beautiful tombstone/memorial honoring a great American. Finally, I don't know about people in southwestern Virginia, but it is news to me that people in Kentucky do not think much of Daniel Boone (I believe just recently, they named another highway in KY in honor of Daniel Boone)! Thanks again for your message! David Brown [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2006 7:29:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do know that Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or KY.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. You seem to have come to a different conclusion then I have about the history of Daniel Boon Makes me wonder what Political Correct book you derived your conclusions of Mr Boone from? Not only did the KY. carpet braggers, steal his land, you now find it necessary to trample upon his good name. Guilty conscience? Send his body from Frankfort back to MO. We will honor his grave, his name & his role he played in the setteling of the west. He may not have worn silk underpants but he was the type of man needed. He got er gone. James M Bagby Indep. MO ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mitchell, Bowers Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WNB.2ACI/346 Message Board Post: From the Chillicothe Daily Constitution, November 17, 1905 (Chillicothe, Livingston County, Missouri) GIRLS MYSTERIOUS DEATH St Louis, Nov 16th. Minnie Mitchell, 23 years of age, and Allie Bowers, 21 years old were found dead this afternoon in the kitchen of a flat occupied by them at 4227 Finney avenue. Their deaths were due to poison, and at first it was believed that they had carried out a suicide pact, but later physicians inclined to the theory that something they had eaten may have caused death. The two girls were cousins, and were formerly from Moberly, Mo.

Cecil - I don't know if it's correct or not but I have Woolfolk in my records. I would like to know what's correct and why too. The marriage date I have for May Burton to Agnes (who was sister to Nancy according to my notes) is 11 Nov 1837 in Shelby Co., KY. But I have no source noted on this. I must have found this early on in my genealogy career before I made better efforts at noting sources. Carole In a message dated 3/29/2006 1:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone know for sure which is the correct spelling of May Burton's wives maiden name? I have seen it spelled both Woodfolk and Woolfolk. The most common spelling I have found is Woolfolk. I show that this May Burton was married twice. Once to Nancy Woodfolk on 21 October 1805, and then a second time to Agnes Woodfolk sometime after 1836. (The marriage date for Agnes and May is based on the date of death of Nancy.) Thank you, Ms. Cecil V. Boyd

Dear list Thanks for lots of good information about people who came here from KY. I have several families that came about 1819 from Garrard County, KY (formed from Madison Co. Kentucky in 1796) to Howard Co. Missouri - Denny, Best and Enyart. In KY they lived on Paint Lick Creek which is the dividing line between Madison and Garrard Counties, KY. The Denny family lived in both Howard and Randolph Co, MO - mostly Howard Co. right south of the Randolph Co line. Alexander Denny, the old man, sold his farm in Garrard Co, KY to his son George Denny for $2000 before he came. He brought lots of kids with him. Cecy

That would be Charles Anderson Ragsdale, possibly named for his mother, Elizabeth Anderson. I have no idea who her father was but it's possible he was named for a maternal grandfather. The Ragsdale family did pretty well follow the traditional naming patterns in many of the branches of this family. There are a couple of excellent books out on this family from it's earliest years to the present day. One of them, the earliest one, was recently put online for free, and can be found with a lot of other great information on this family at the following site. http://www.ragsdalefamily.org/elijah/index2.html Eliza Ragsdale Lloyd, wife of William H. H. Loyd, was my direct ancestor. She's buried beside her husband in the Higbee Cemetery, but her grave is not marked. She was a distant cousin, 3rd of 4th I think of Charles Ragsdale. Benjamin Ragsdale, not sure whether it was Charles son Benjamin or the grandson, owned the land that one of the major mines in Randolph county in the Higbee area was built on. I suspect that was what brought my Eliza to the area. Her husband's farm had failed and he went into coal mining. Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Debellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > Not off hand. I can't recall Charles Ragsdale's middle name at the > moment but Anderson seems right. He was married to Cassandra Chrisler. > They had a bunch of children and were all very healthy (lived into their > 80's and 90's) and somewhat prolific, so it wouldn't surprise me if some > of them ended up in the Northeastern Oklahoma area. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cecil Boyd [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > Jane do you know if any of your Ragsdale family moved to the > northeastern portion of Oklahoma? I have some Ragsdale relations that I > > believe came from Missouri to Oklahoma. > Would the Charles Ragsdale you mentioned be Charles Anderson > Ragsdale or > one of his descendents? I am not closely related to this family that I > know > of, but I do have them in my database as very distant relations. > Ms. Cecil V. Boyd > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Debellis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:05 AM > Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > >> My great-grandmother was Sallie Katherine Foreman daughter of Casey >> Foreman and Elizabeth Garnett. Casey and his twin, Inskeep (as well > as >> another brother and cousins) attended one of the first schools in the >> County. They migrated to Missouri in about 1820 or so. She had > several >> sisters and a couple of brothers. One sister was Eliza Jane who > married >> Leslie Delos Guile of Randolph County. That seems to have brought >> Sallie and two of her sisters to Randolph County. Her younger sister >> Josie married a McDaniel in Randolph County and I believe her sister >> Belle also married a man from Randolph County. She married Thomas E. >> Butterly of Moberly and they had a number of children with only my >> grandfather and one sister making it into their 80's. Most died as >> young adults it seems. >> >> Another sister was named Nancy and married Samuel Caldwell and they >> remained in Marion County in the Palmyra area. The brother(s) are >> something of a mystery. My great-grandmother is purported to have >> "told" my mother and her siblings that one side of her family fought > for >> the Union and one on the Confederate side but I've never really >> researched it enough to confirm this other than looking cursorily at a >> few of the lists of units on both sides for skirmishes fought in the >> general area. >> >> My direct Randolph County lines are the Michael Stipp's and Charles >> Ragsdale's with a tie-in to some Owens' and Pattrick's. >> >> Jane DeBellis >> Milton, Fl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI >> >> Who were your people in Marion Co? >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

I remember reading in a Biography years back of Daniel Boone, that the government offered him a huge amount of Land in Missouri, if he would lead a wagon train of people from Kentucky to settle it. Since he had just lost most of his land in Kentucky, he was eager to move westward. He was given a certain portion of land for each settler he brought with him. Since he himself was from Madison county at that time, most of the people he brought with him were also from Madison county. This was in the early 1800's, before Missouri was a state. He moved them to the St. Charles area originally. They were part of the Loutre Island group of settlers that eventually moved up into Howard/Boone county right before the War of 1812. As these families settled, they would send word home to relatives in Madison who had not come with the first group, of the fertile land and huge quantities available of good rich farmland, and their relatives would follow. Modern farming methods were not available at that time, and the soil in Kentucky, like the soil in Virginia, had been pretty well played out and wasn't producing the crops they had before. Many of the settlers in Madison county had come from the western hills of Virginia, South Carolina and North Carolina, and were beginning to feel crowded out as Kentucky filled up. Many of the settlers in Madison also hadn't filed the proper paperwork and like Daniel Boone, were pretty much cheated out of their lands and they were forced to move on. Missouri was a good place to move, because the Missouri river made travel into the interior much easier than going overland. Since Boone and Howard both had considerable amounts of land right on the Missouri river, it was a natural place for the settlers to disembark. There are a lot of people who moved up from Barren county, Kentucky into the Howard/Cooper county area as well. Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamp Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > So many families came from Madison County, Kentucky to Missouri - > Johnson County, Boone, and Randolph. Does anyone know what prompted > this movement??? > > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

Anybody know of any Keith's that lived in Ky. and went to Indiana between probably 1830 -1840? Thanks Betty Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI In the early period prior to the Rev. War, people would move on West due to Primogeniture. Only the oldest son would inherit the farm and the younger must become professional or work for someone. The younger sons would receive household goods, furniture, money, dads old Kentucky rifle or such. That gave them a stake to head west and find property of their own. The old Indian Road down the Valley of Virginia became a major highway of that day. In 1775 Daniel Boone and a large party of axe men cleared the Wilderness Road over the Cumberland Gap from VA into Ky. That opened KY for settlement. Daniel Boone and Dr Thomas Walker were Land Agents and largely responsible for the Westward expansion prior to the Louis & Clark period. I see a major exit of KY in favor of MO starting in <1820> and lasting for 20 years. Was that a component of Louis & Clark? Maybe. My g.g. grandmother was a HURT in KY with family from WINN, BARNETT, TURNER, PEYTON, LEFTWICH. ALLEN, CALLISON and many others. Howard Fitzpatrick ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

There was a Lucy Kerby that married a Robb. She was the daughter of George Kerby. George had a sister Mary who married Willis Green and a brother Jesse who married Elizabeth Brashear, she was the sister of my Judson Brashear.

In the early period prior to the Rev. War, people would move on West due to Primogeniture. Only the oldest son would inherit the farm and the younger must become professional or work for someone. The younger sons would receive household goods, furniture, money, dads old Kentucky rifle or such. That gave them a stake to head west and find property of their own. The old Indian Road down the Valley of Virginia became a major highway of that day. In 1775 Daniel Boone and a large party of axe men cleared the Wilderness Road over the Cumberland Gap from VA into Ky. That opened KY for settlement. Daniel Boone and Dr Thomas Walker were Land Agents and largely responsible for the Westward expansion prior to the Louis & Clark period. I see a major exit of KY in favor of MO starting in <1820> and lasting for 20 years. Was that a component of Louis & Clark? Maybe. My g.g. grandmother was a HURT in KY with family from WINN, BARNETT, TURNER, PEYTON, LEFTWICH. ALLEN, CALLISON and many others. Howard Fitzpatrick

A number of them went to Howard County as well. One I'm especially interested in is Joseph Hopper who married Anna Green in Madison. I think the family may have moved to Monroe County post 1850 perhaps with the Judson Brashear family. I think Judson Brashear's wife may have been a daughter of Joseph and Anna.

Cecil: This is not a stretch - it is true. Elsworth Little, brother of Gladys, Robert W. Maggie, John "Jack" (this is my husband's line), William Jr., Maude and Jennie married Nora Robb. I have two children listed; Garletta, born 30 May 1902, d. 15 August 1902, and another girl, born 26 September 1903. That's about all I have on this family. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecil Boyd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > For another stretttttch -- > Alice do you know if your Little family could be connected to the > Little that married into the Robb family? I believe Nora B. Robb, > daughter of Thomas Benton Robb and Mary Ann Campbell, married Ellsworth > Little. > Ms. Cecil V. Boyd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Awonder" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > >> All of this talk about Kentucky has peaked my interest. My husband's >> family (RANKIN, TIPPIT, LITTLE) were from Higbee, Randolph County, but my >> mother's side was from Kentucky, and it just happens that my >> gggrandmother was Lucy FITZPATRICK who married John GRASTY and died in >> Rock Castle, Trigg County, Kentucky on 6 October 1839. >> >> I realize it is a strettttttch, but would there be any connection to >> Howard Fitzpatrick???? >> >> Alice in Arizona >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI >> >> >>> In the early period prior to the Rev. War, people would move on West due >>> to >>> Primogeniture. Only the oldest son would inherit the farm and the >>> younger must >>> become professional or work for someone. The younger sons would receive >>> household goods, furniture, money, dads old Kentucky rifle or such. That >>> gave them a >>> stake to head west and find property of their own. The old Indian Road >>> down >>> the Valley of Virginia became a major highway of that day. In 1775 >>> Daniel Boone >>> and a large party of axe men cleared the Wilderness Road over the >>> Cumberland >>> Gap from VA into Ky. That opened KY for settlement. Daniel Boone and Dr >>> Thomas >>> Walker were Land Agents and largely responsible for the Westward >>> expansion >>> prior to the Louis & Clark period. I see a major exit of KY in favor of >>> MO >>> starting in <1820> and lasting for 20 years. Was that a component of >>> Louis & Clark? >>> Maybe. >>> My g.g. grandmother was a HURT in KY with family from WINN, BARNETT, >>> TURNER, >>> PEYTON, LEFTWICH. ALLEN, CALLISON and many others. >>> >>> Howard Fitzpatrick >>> >>> >>> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >>> Questions for the List Administrator? >>> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

Do you know if Judson and Elizabeth Brashear are any relation to the Celia Ann Brashears that married John Oliver Dougherty on 1 November 1866, in Howard Co., Missouri? Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > There was a Lucy Kerby that married a Robb. She was the daughter > of George Kerby. George had a sister Mary who married Willis > Green and a brother Jesse who married Elizabeth Brashear, she > was the sister of my Judson Brashear. > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >

This is the Charles Ragsdale I mentioned. I show his has Charles Anderson Ragsdale married to Cassandra Chrisler. I show 13 children for this family. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Debellis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > Not off hand. I can't recall Charles Ragsdale's middle name at the > moment but Anderson seems right. He was married to Cassandra Chrisler. > They had a bunch of children and were all very healthy (lived into their > 80's and 90's) and somewhat prolific, so it wouldn't surprise me if some > of them ended up in the Northeastern Oklahoma area. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cecil Boyd [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > Jane do you know if any of your Ragsdale family moved to the > northeastern portion of Oklahoma? I have some Ragsdale relations that I > > believe came from Missouri to Oklahoma. > Would the Charles Ragsdale you mentioned be Charles Anderson > Ragsdale or > one of his descendents? I am not closely related to this family that I > know > of, but I do have them in my database as very distant relations. > Ms. Cecil V. Boyd > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Debellis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:05 AM > Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > >> My great-grandmother was Sallie Katherine Foreman daughter of Casey >> Foreman and Elizabeth Garnett. Casey and his twin, Inskeep (as well > as >> another brother and cousins) attended one of the first schools in the >> County. They migrated to Missouri in about 1820 or so. She had > several >> sisters and a couple of brothers. One sister was Eliza Jane who > married >> Leslie Delos Guile of Randolph County. That seems to have brought >> Sallie and two of her sisters to Randolph County. Her younger sister >> Josie married a McDaniel in Randolph County and I believe her sister >> Belle also married a man from Randolph County. She married Thomas E. >> Butterly of Moberly and they had a number of children with only my >> grandfather and one sister making it into their 80's. Most died as >> young adults it seems. >> >> Another sister was named Nancy and married Samuel Caldwell and they >> remained in Marion County in the Palmyra area. The brother(s) are >> something of a mystery. My great-grandmother is purported to have >> "told" my mother and her siblings that one side of her family fought > for >> the Union and one on the Confederate side but I've never really >> researched it enough to confirm this other than looking cursorily at a >> few of the lists of units on both sides for skirmishes fought in the >> general area. >> >> My direct Randolph County lines are the Michael Stipp's and Charles >> Ragsdale's with a tie-in to some Owens' and Pattrick's. >> >> Jane DeBellis >> Milton, Fl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carey Bankhead [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI >> >> Who were your people in Marion Co? >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >

For another stretttttch -- Alice do you know if your Little family could be connected to the Little that married into the Robb family? I believe Nora B. Robb, daughter of Thomas Benton Robb and Mary Ann Campbell, married Ellsworth Little. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Awonder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > All of this talk about Kentucky has peaked my interest. My husband's > family (RANKIN, TIPPIT, LITTLE) were from Higbee, Randolph County, but my > mother's side was from Kentucky, and it just happens that my gggrandmother > was Lucy FITZPATRICK who married John GRASTY and died in Rock Castle, > Trigg County, Kentucky on 6 October 1839. > > I realize it is a strettttttch, but would there be any connection to > Howard Fitzpatrick???? > > Alice in Arizona > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > > >> In the early period prior to the Rev. War, people would move on West due >> to >> Primogeniture. Only the oldest son would inherit the farm and the younger >> must >> become professional or work for someone. The younger sons would receive >> household goods, furniture, money, dads old Kentucky rifle or such. That >> gave them a >> stake to head west and find property of their own. The old Indian Road >> down >> the Valley of Virginia became a major highway of that day. In 1775 Daniel >> Boone >> and a large party of axe men cleared the Wilderness Road over the >> Cumberland >> Gap from VA into Ky. That opened KY for settlement. Daniel Boone and Dr >> Thomas >> Walker were Land Agents and largely responsible for the Westward >> expansion >> prior to the Louis & Clark period. I see a major exit of KY in favor of >> MO >> starting in <1820> and lasting for 20 years. Was that a component of >> Louis & Clark? >> Maybe. >> My g.g. grandmother was a HURT in KY with family from WINN, BARNETT, >> TURNER, >> PEYTON, LEFTWICH. ALLEN, CALLISON and many others. >> >> Howard Fitzpatrick >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> >> > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >