Yes, the first wife is buried in the Dysart Cem north of Yates.

Carey: Thank you for the info - the only other information I have on Ellsworth is that he was born in November 1877. Alice Nicholson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Bankhead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > Ellsworth is buried in the Tucker Cem southwest of Higbee. > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

Hello List: I really don't know why there should be a problem preserving old cemeteries. Orange county, Ca., is a good example. The Yorba cemetery has been in Orange county since Bernardo Yorba was granted land by Spain. The cemetery was in a rural setting east of Atwood and South of Yorba Linda until the housing boom started in Orange county. The cemetery was set aside and preserved by Orange county. I last saw the cemetery in 1993 and it was a beautiful setting surrounded by homes and apartments. Norman Blansett __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Howard: Many thanks for this information. I will keep working and see what I can find; this certainly gives me a place to begin. Alice Nicholson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > Alice > I think Lucy descended from William FITZPATRICK/Sarah Jane BRECKENRIDGE of > Abemarle Co. Virginia Colony. Wm & Sarah came to VA from Ireland about > 1718 with > sons > Thomas & William Jr. Joseph was b.<1719> Albemarle Co. VA. > My ancestor, Edward FITZPATRICK came much later <1840> and m.one of those > KY > HURTS that had moved into MO. Edward & Nancy(HURT) FITZPATRICK settled in > Audrain Co. MO. > > Howard Fitzpatrick > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

David Brown [email protected] wrote: > My ggggg grandfather William Holman and wife Eleanor > Barnes moved from Madison Co., KY to present-day > Randolph Co., MO around 1817/1818. ------------------------------------- Good Morning David and All, My husband's GGGgrandparents were also Wm HOLMAN and Eleanor BARNES. He is descended through their son, Squire HOLMAN (b 1807, Madison County, KY). Leslie Kohler =============

I am looking for anyone that might be interested in the surname of McCann and Robinson from Paris MO., I have Thomas Carter Robinson born 9/11/1860 married into the Winn family James Robinson married Clarinda McCann she was born 5/21/1848 her father was Pleasant McCann born 1801. All in the Paris Missouri area. Some buried on the McCann Farm. Please contact me. I have lots of information that I would love to share. And hope that someone else has information to share with me. Judy McCann

HI: I have a James W. Winn in my line. He was born October 14, 1906. His father was James Benjamin Winn Born October 24, 1875, Married to Ruth Robinson and they also had one daughter that I know of. That is all that I have the Robinson's were related to my husbands line of McCann's from Paris, Mo. Thanks Judy McCann

Ellsworth is buried in the Tucker Cem southwest of Higbee.

Someone is forgetting that it may not have been the bodies of Dan'l and Rebecca that were secreted from MO to KY but actually a slave couple...makes interesting reading. I'm currently reading Jos. Ellis' "His Excellency," which isn't terribly nice to its subject, Gen'l Washington.

The Bryan mentioned connects to my Lillards and to the famous William Jennings Bryan and the family of Adlai E. Stevenson.

In a message dated 3/29/2006 10:49:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: James D. b. Dec 25 1793 d. Nov. 7 1863 m. Mercer County, KY 1807 Nancy m. Davis? or Betsy Beagler? Came to Higbee MO with two brothers May and Elijah Burton. This James BURTON is supposed to have married Nancy DAWKINS. Below is a quote from the publicattion "Dawkins and Stewart Families of Virginia and Kentucky" by Lela Wolfe Prewitt. Nancy Dawkins m JAMES BURTON in Henry co Ky 4 Feb 1815. The MB lists the mothers as Mary Dawkins wdo & May Burton. It appears they went to Randolph Co Mo where several of the George Dawkins' children migrated in the 1830's. Nancy is the daughter of George DAWKINS and Polly SEARCY. I am related to this line since I am descended from Nancy's brother, William Dawkins. I've tracked the couple from the 1830 thru 1870 census records. James died in 1863 and Nancy died in 1872. One son, Levi T. BURTON, married Eliza J. PATTRICK (sister to my ggg grandfather Hezekiah PATTRICK). Another son - Elijah W. BURTON was the father of Nancy C. Burton who was the third wife of gg grandfather, George W. LESSLY. I have a few other connections between the extended BURTON/DAWKINS/PATTRICKS family lines. It really does get quite confusing at times. Carole

I stand corrected. Yes, the original agreement for land was with the Spanish government. From "Pioneer Families Of Missouri" by Bryan and Ross, published 1876, under the chapter on the life of Daniel Boone. pg 40 "...1795, when he removed to Missouri, or Upper Louisiana, as it was then called. His son Daniel M. Boone, had already settled in that country.......About the same time he received an invitation from the Spanish Lieutenant-Governor, Zenon Trudeau, to remove there, offering as an inducement a large grant of land.......For several years after Colonel Boone's removal, Upper Louisiana remained under Spanish rule, and the promise of the Lieutenant-Governor was faithfully fulfilled. On the 24th of January 1798, he received a concession of 1,000 arpents of land, situated in Femme Osage District. He afterward made an agreement with the Spanish authorities to bring one hundred families from Kentucky and Virginia to Upper Louisiana, for which he was to receive 10,000 aspents of land. The agreement was fulfilled on both sides; but in order to confirm his title to this grant, it was necessary to obtain the signature of the direct representative of the crown who resided in New Orleans. Colonel Boone neglected this requirement, and his title was declared invalid when the country came into the possession of the United States. His title to the first grant of 1,000 arpents was also declared invalid, but was subsequently confirmed by special act of Congress. Both the Spanish and American governments required actual settlement of lands granted in the ordinary way, to confirm the title; but in 1800 Boone received the appointment of Commandant of Femme Osage District, and was informed by Don Charles D. Delasus, who had succeeded Don Zenon Trudeau as Lieutenant-Governor, that as his duties as Commandant would require a considerable portion of his time, the Spanish Government would dispense with his actual settlement of the land in order to confirm the title. Relying upon this promise, he neglected to have the proper entries made upon the records, and when the United States government purchased Upper Louisiana there was nothing to show that Boone had fulfilled the requirements, and his claim was declared invalid. (More than half of the Spanish claims were declared invalid during that time period. Land claims in Missouri were ripe with fraud especially after the New Madrid earthquake when the New Madrid folks were given land in the Howard county area, with little regard for the current inhabitants.) He subsequently petitioned Congress to have his title confirmed and his petition was granted." (portions of the petition were printed here and can be found in the American State Papers, Vol. 2, page 10.) On pg. 43......Not withstanding this favorable report, and the justice of the petition, the Board of Land Commissioners reported adversely to the grant, and it was not until three years after (December 24, 1813,) that Boone was confirmed in his title to the 1,000 arpents of land conceded to him by the Spanish government." pg 47 "During the first few years of their residence in Upper Louisiana, Colonel Boone and his wife lived with their son, Daniel M., who had built a house on Darst's Bottom, adjoining the tract of 1,000 arpents of land granted to his father by the Spanish government. This entire tract, with the exception of 181 acres, was sold by Daniel M. Boone, who had charge of his father's business, to pay the old Colonels debts in Kentucky, of which he had left quite a number upon his removal to the Spanish dominions." "There is only one deed on the records in St. Charles signed by Daniel Boone, and that is for 181 acres of land (being a portion of the 1,000 arpents) sold to Wm. Coshow, August 6, 1815, for $315. I have no idea what his reputation was among the locals in the area of Virginia and Kentucky during his lifetime and afterward. I do know that the state of Kentucky thought highly enough of him to put up a fight to move the bodies of him and his wife to Kentucky, and after a struggle with the residents and politicians in Missouri, who didn't want to let them go because Boone has left specific instructions about his burial in Missouri, Kentucky finally won out and transported the bodies of both Daniel Boone and his wife, in brand new coffins to a burial ground in Kentucky. The state of Kentucky thought highly enough of him to have profited from his legend for a century and half now in tourist revenue, and continues to milk his legend to this very day. I suspect there are a few sites in Virginia that have done the same thing. I know he was and is revered in Missouri and has various monuments and towns named after him all over the state of Missouri. Pg 53 from the book quoted above. "At the time of Boone's death the Constitutional Convention of Missouri was in session at St. Louis, and upon receipt of the intelligence a resolution was offered by Hon. Benjamin Emmons, of St. Charles, that the members wear the usual badge of mourning for thirty days, in respect to the memory of the deceased, and adjourn for one day. The resolution was unanimously adopted." I won't quote it here because it would take too long, but basically the story of the sweet potato death was repeated here, as well. It took him three days to die from it. His wife died in 1813, and when he became old, he did what many old men did in that time. He sold his remaining land, and moved in with his daughter so she could care for him until his death. He was after all, 81 years of age in 1815. He was living with her, but visiting his son Nathan's home, when the dish of sweet potatoes was prepared for him. He died in Nathan's stone home in 1820, which was still standing at the time of the writing of the above quoted history book. Among the various county histories for Missouri, many of them, and nearly all that border the Missouri River, mention Boone as having been in the county hunting and trapping. He's a cherished part of Missouri's history. It's just sad to me, that the state that loved him, and where he wished to be buried, had to give his body up to a state where he was not apparently very well respected. Kathy B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Lee Hearl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > Kathy Bowlin wrote: >>>I remember reading in a Biography years back of Daniel Boone, that the > government offered him a huge amount of Land in Missouri, if he would lead > a > wagon train of people from Kentucky to settle it. Since he had just lost > most of his land in Kentucky, he was eager to move westward. << > In a biography I read on Daniel Boone it stated that Daniel Boone was > offered land in Missouri by the Spanish government before the US bought > that area. It also stated that Boone failed to comply with the > requirements of building a cabin and clearing land and he did not get a > deed to it.. Congress later gave him some land which he promply sold and > so died with no land anywhere.. the biography also stated that Boone died > at the home of his son in law in Missouri from colic caused by eating too > many sweet potatoes! I don't know what is truth or fiction. I do know that > Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or > KY.. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

Correction: Misread my own notes. Celia's father was John Carlton Brashear who married Eliza Jane Montgomery. Her grandparents were Waymack and Margeret. John Carlton, Judson M., and Elizabeth were siblings. The Brashears are hard to sort out because the same names occur in every generation.

Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the General. I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph County. When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL

Suggested Reading: Daniel Boone by Bakeless... G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

I won't address which side is right and which side is wrong here, other than to say having grown up in a county next to one named for Daniel Boone, I've not heard a lot disparaging comments about him but I'm sure he had his detractors as well as his supporters in his time. It is quite likely there is a bit of truth in both accounts. I will add that as someone who majored in history the "politically correct" concept of history is nothing new. It really is revisionist in some ways and typically it all comes together and out in the wash so to speak eventually. Also, sometimes the best book on a person or event was written years ago and so to get published (and to get tenure you have to get published) you have to provide new interpretations that may disagree with or contradict the original ones. I have seen this with biographies of both Presidents Roosevelts, Eisenhower and several of our founding fathers. Our own beloved Harry S. Truman is a victim of this...Fortunately there are still historians like David McCollough dedicated to doing the research and debunking myths with the truth. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BROWN [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Daniel Boone Hi James, Well said! There have been books of late that are very critical of Daniel Boone. Unfortunately, this is a trend we see too often relative to the treatment of our American icons! I think too many of our current-day "politically correct" historians are more intent on tearing down the founders and trailblazers of our country than anything else (usually, they will resort to personal smears that really have no historical significance to the individual in question). I'm sure Daniel Boone had his faults (don't we all), but I also know that he (and his family) played a pivotal role in the early history and settlement of Kentucky. It is interesting to note that some 20 years after Daniel Boone's death in Missouri, the State of Kentucky was adamant that his body be exhumed and moved to Frankfort! To give Kentucky credit, they did build a beautiful tombstone/memorial honoring a great American. Finally, I don't know about people in southwestern Virginia, but it is news to me that people in Kentucky do not think much of Daniel Boone (I believe just recently, they named another highway in KY in honor of Daniel Boone)! Thanks again for your message! David Brown [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2006 7:29:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do know that Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or KY.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. You seem to have come to a different conclusion then I have about the history of Daniel Boon Makes me wonder what Political Correct book you derived your conclusions of Mr Boone from? Not only did the KY. carpet braggers, steal his land, you now find it necessary to trample upon his good name. Guilty conscience? Send his body from Frankfort back to MO. We will honor his grave, his name & his role he played in the setteling of the west. He may not have worn silk underpants but he was the type of man needed. He got er gone. James M Bagby Indep. MO ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected] ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Celia's father, Waymack Brashear, was another brother of Judson and Elizabeth. Waymack's wife was named Margaret.

In a message dated 3/29/2006 7:29:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do know that Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or KY.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. You seem to have come to a different conclusion then I have about the history of Daniel Boon Makes me wonder what Political Correct book you derived your conclusions of Mr Boone from? Not only did the KY. carpet braggers, steal his land, you now find it necessary to trample upon his good name. Guilty conscience? Send his body from Frankfort back to MO. We will honor his grave, his name & his role he played in the setteling of the west. He may not have worn silk underpants but he was the type of man needed. He got er gone. James M Bagby Indep. MO

My kin left Owen County KY and arrived in Randolph Co MO about 1850. Clifton Hill MO got its name from my gg grandfather, David Clifton. He arrived in Randolph Co with his wife, Frances Cobb Clifton. Other related lines from Owen Co KY were Stampers, Cobb, Holbrook, and more. Also arriving around 1850 was another gg grandfather, Andrew Jackson Clark and wife Nancy Henderson with family from Chatham County NC. Sheryl McNeely Shaw [email protected]

Kathy Bowlin wrote: >>I remember reading in a Biography years back of Daniel Boone, that the government offered him a huge amount of Land in Missouri, if he would lead a wagon train of people from Kentucky to settle it. Since he had just lost most of his land in Kentucky, he was eager to move westward. << In a biography I read on Daniel Boone it stated that Daniel Boone was offered land in Missouri by the Spanish government before the US bought that area. It also stated that Boone failed to comply with the requirements of building a cabin and clearing land and he did not get a deed to it.. Congress later gave him some land which he promply sold and so died with no land anywhere.. the biography also stated that Boone died at the home of his son in law in Missouri from colic caused by eating too many sweet potatoes! I don't know what is truth or fiction. I do know that Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or KY.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.