In a message dated 3/30/06 5:44:10 PM, [email protected] writes: << In my notes I have the name as Woolfolk. Nancy and Agnes were daughters of Joseph and Mary Waller Woolfolk of Spotsylvania Co., VA. Hence the use of the Waller name in the Burton lines. I have Joseph the son of John and Elizabeth Wigglesworth Woolfolk. I show their son John Wigglesworth Woolfolk came to Missouri , Boone County and settled around the Deer Park Area. >> Looks like Elizabeth WOOLFOLK, b 1784 VA is also daughter of Joseph and Mary WALLER WOOLFOLK. She married Joseph WILCOXSON and both died Randolph Co., MO. Among their children are: Granville Waller Wilcoxson Greenup Woolfolk Wilcoxson. Linda Manning
No, the obit as in the post-Scott Welch era, meaning the deceased didn't get preached through the pearly gates via an obit...."just the facts, Mam!" Warren was married, and, as I told someone a few days ago via this route, I recently visited with a man from Boonville who I believe said dated one of them. I don't know about their present whereabouts. I drove through the Walnut Grove or whatever they call the cemetery in east Boonville, but didn't notice a Winn stone. My late Dad had some good stories to tell about Dr. Winn, Sr.....he liked his drink! There is a story of his attending a Democratic function, drank too much, and fell over a tie rope of a tent and broke an arm. A Higbee osteopath (MDs and Osteopaths couldn't stand each other back then) was also drunk, but tried to straddle Doc Winn's chest to set the arm, upon which Dr. Winn is supposed to have said, "get off me you Osteopath ______!" Makes a good story anyhow.
I tried to look it up - and what I think really happened is sisters married brothers and such like. I am absolutely positive I share no blood with Omar - but I will continue to call him "cousin Omer" - after all, I am an Army brat and an Army retired!!!!! Glad to see you are back on line. I missed you. How are Karon (spelling wrong I know) and Meggie? I hope Meggie is doing alright. Haven't heard since they were going to move out. Has it worked out well? I care, I care! Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Bowlin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Hi Carolyn, I think our connection is through the Wisdom family, back to John Wisdom and Ann Collins. I think the relationship calendar said I was a 6th cousin twice removed. I doubt I'll be invited to the family reunions. Your link might be closer. Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley >I also have been told by my mother who was told by HER father that Omar > Bradley is a cousin - she called him "cousin Omer" - I tracked it down one > time and of course did not write it down = he turned out to be related > dimly > - about 3rd cousin once removed or some such. I think when anyone famous > comes from the same neighborhood, people try to get in on it. > > The same type of thing happened with another branch of my family. They > came > from Illinois and some were buried in the "Tom Lincoln" graveyard where > Abe's parents were buried. He came to town one time, and in a newspaper > article many years later, one of my relatives was interviewed and wanted > to > talk about how close he and Abe were - but not. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley > > Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous > occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley > was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to > her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the > General. > > > > I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman > line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not > accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all > well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no > matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is > through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area > long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph > County. > > > > When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my > grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that > could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my > uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth > somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they > attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church > in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. > > > > If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional > information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this > relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. > > > > Jane DeBellis > > Milton, FL > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
I also have been told by my mother who was told by HER father that Omar Bradley is a cousin - she called him "cousin Omer" - I tracked it down one time and of course did not write it down = he turned out to be related dimly - about 3rd cousin once removed or some such. I think when anyone famous comes from the same neighborhood, people try to get in on it. The same type of thing happened with another branch of my family. They came from Illinois and some were buried in the "Tom Lincoln" graveyard where Abe's parents were buried. He came to town one time, and in a newspaper article many years later, one of my relatives was interviewed and wanted to talk about how close he and Abe were - but not. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the General. I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph County. When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Hi Carolyn, I think our connection is through the Wisdom family, back to John Wisdom and Ann Collins. I think the relationship calendar said I was a 6th cousin twice removed. I doubt I'll be invited to the family reunions. Your link might be closer. Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley >I also have been told by my mother who was told by HER father that Omar > Bradley is a cousin - she called him "cousin Omer" - I tracked it down one > time and of course did not write it down = he turned out to be related > dimly > - about 3rd cousin once removed or some such. I think when anyone famous > comes from the same neighborhood, people try to get in on it. > > The same type of thing happened with another branch of my family. They > came > from Illinois and some were buried in the "Tom Lincoln" graveyard where > Abe's parents were buried. He came to town one time, and in a newspaper > article many years later, one of my relatives was interviewed and wanted > to > talk about how close he and Abe were - but not. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley > > Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous > occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley > was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to > her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the > General. > > > > I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman > line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not > accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all > well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no > matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is > through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area > long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph > County. > > > > When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my > grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that > could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my > uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth > somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they > attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church > in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. > > > > If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional > information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this > relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. > > > > Jane DeBellis > > Milton, FL > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >
Hey, we can have our own "I think I'm related to Omar" reunion! We might have to rent out a large hall, though. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Bowlin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Hi Carolyn, I think our connection is through the Wisdom family, back to John Wisdom and Ann Collins. I think the relationship calendar said I was a 6th cousin twice removed. I doubt I'll be invited to the family reunions. Your link might be closer. Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley >I also have been told by my mother who was told by HER father that Omar > Bradley is a cousin - she called him "cousin Omer" - I tracked it down one > time and of course did not write it down = he turned out to be related > dimly > - about 3rd cousin once removed or some such. I think when anyone famous > comes from the same neighborhood, people try to get in on it. > > The same type of thing happened with another branch of my family. They > came > from Illinois and some were buried in the "Tom Lincoln" graveyard where > Abe's parents were buried. He came to town one time, and in a newspaper > article many years later, one of my relatives was interviewed and wanted > to > talk about how close he and Abe were - but not. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley > > Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous > occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley > was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to > her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the > General. > > > > I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman > line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not > accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all > well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no > matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is > through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area > long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph > County. > > > > When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my > grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that > could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my > uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth > somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they > attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church > in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. > > > > If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional > information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this > relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. > > > > Jane DeBellis > > Milton, FL > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Jane - Ditto here for Omar. Same as Carolyn, we did find that we are related, but it goes several generations back. Found in some other old family papers that another ancestor was supposed to be related to George Washington, but all I found is that they grew up in the same town at around the same time. If it was anything like the Randolph area then there could be a tie, but I haven't found it. My kids sure would like me to discover the connection, though!! Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Gibbons [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley I also have been told by my mother who was told by HER father that Omar Bradley is a cousin - she called him "cousin Omer" - I tracked it down one time and of course did not write it down = he turned out to be related dimly - about 3rd cousin once removed or some such. I think when anyone famous comes from the same neighborhood, people try to get in on it. The same type of thing happened with another branch of my family. They came from Illinois and some were buried in the "Tom Lincoln" graveyard where Abe's parents were buried. He came to town one time, and in a newspaper article many years later, one of my relatives was interviewed and wanted to talk about how close he and Abe were - but not. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the General. I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph County. When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected] ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Norman - I haven't heard of the Yorba cemetery and I must live 10 - 15 miles from it. I will definitely check it out. Are you here in the area? Are your Blansett folks from Randolph County, Mo. My ancestor, Joe Lay, married an Ethleen Blansett, who was the daughter of a Moses Blansett. Ethleen was born in the late 1800's and died mid 1900's (don't have my notes out). Valerie Goldstein Orange, California -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Preserving old cemeteries Hello List: I really don't know why there should be a problem preserving old cemeteries. Orange county, Ca., is a good example. The Yorba cemetery has been in Orange county since Bernardo Yorba was granted land by Spain. The cemetery was in a rural setting east of Atwood and South of Yorba Linda until the housing boom started in Orange county. The cemetery was set aside and preserved by Orange county. I last saw the cemetery in 1993 and it was a beautiful setting surrounded by homes and apartments. Norman Blansett __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Jane - Not sure if I'd call myself a Bradley researcher but I am related to the General and have done some work on some of the family lines. Quite a bit of my information came from my cousin Helen Alderson Boswell who is an excellent researcher. Like you I grew up hearing that my family was related somehow to Gen Omar Bradley but my mother could not tell me how. Eventually I got my uncle to cough up a few family group sheets that my grandfather had and then he gave me Helen's address. My connection to Omar Bradley comes thru his paternal grandmother, Sarah Elizabeth Lewis b. abt 1847 in Missouri daughter of John F. Lewis and Margaret. She married Thomas Minter Bradley (son of Thomas Smith Bradley and Barbary Ellen Cruse) on 30 Sep 1865 in Moberly. I am descended from Sarah Elizabeth Lewis' aunt, Hester Ann Lewis, b. 25 Sep 1819 Madison Co., IL daughter of John W. Lewis and Patience Davies. Hester married Thomas Williams Pate on 25 Sep 1834 Boone Co., MO. Thomas died abt 1854 and she remarried to William C. McCullough. Hester died abt 1876 in Linn Co., MO. Given the large family sizes of the Bradleys, I'm sure quite a few people in Randolph Co can claim kinship of some sort to Gen Bradley. There were a number of marriages between various Bradley lines and some of my extended Lewis family lines - too numerous and convoluted to go over in an email. I'd be glad to take a look in my database and see if any of your surnames link into the Bradleys I have. You should know that there is more than one Bradley line that came to Randolph County. Some suspect a relationship between the lines but last I heard this could not be proven. Carole In a message dated 3/30/2006 10:51:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the General. I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph County. If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.
David - thank you for the article, it was very interesting. It is funny that you sent that just now because my mom and I were touring her old home town of Riverside, California today and right in the middle of a business district was a large graveyard that acted as the center island between both directions of traffic (off the main drag). There was no fencing around the cemetery and when we slowed down we saw that most of the markings were people born around mid 1800's and dying early 1900's. Some of the traffic lanes bisected the graveyard, so I am sure that they moved some of the graves (or just the stones) to accommodate the paving of the street. At least they left the graveyard mostly intact instead of bulldozing it over. We asked a large church down the street what the name of the graveyard was and they hadn't a clue. Valerie Goldstein -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BROWN [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Cemeteries in the South Although the cemeteries in Randolph County are not under threat due to rapid growth and development, the following story highlights the importance of preserving our rural family cemeteries. I thought this would be of interest to everyone! >Subj: [LCT] From yesterday's Washington Post on cemeteries in the South >Date: 3/28/2006 2:52:25 PM Pacific Standard Time > >More Family Cemeteries Dying Away in the South >As Rural Land is Developed, Ancestral Graves are Relocated, Bulldozed or >Encircled by Construction > >By Theo Emery >Special to The Washington Post >Monday, March 27, 2006; A03 > > > >LEBANON, Tenn. -- At the end of Bettis Road, across a padlocked gate and up a grassy hillside lane, generations of James Jordan's ancestors llie buried atop a wooded knoll -- for now. > >A rusty fence encircles the cemetery, and tilted headstones point skyward >amid the leaves. Walking among the locust trees, Jordan points out graves >of long-dead kin, including the Chandler family matriarch who left >instructions and money for preserving the cemetery. > >"It's a shame," said Jordan, 51. "She died thinking that she had preserved >the cemetery." > >The hilltop, about 25 miles east of Nashville, won't be Jordan's ancestral >resting place much longer. Green flags mark the Chandler cemetery, which >includes graves of Revolutionary and Civil War veterans, slaves and >generations of a sprawling Colonial family. They will soon be moved so that >a factory or warehouse -- the developer is not yet sure -- can be built >nearby. > >Throughout the South, family cemeteries pepper the landscape. But as cities from Atlanta to Memphis radiate rapidly outward, the growth is swallowing >rural land that swaddles the graves. > >In Tennessee alone, dozens of long-hidden cemeteries appear each year -- >sometimes in mid-construction -- creating headaches for builders and >heartaches for families of the dead. Some cemeteries are moved at >landowners' expense. Those that stay sometimes become forlorn islands of >green amid parking lots and suburban developments. Others are paved over or bulldozed. > >The conflict between growth and graves in the region has long been cause >for concern among preservationists, who worry that development endangers a cultural heritage buried in the soil and chiseled in its headstones. > >Ian W. Brown, an anthropology professor at the University of Alabama, >described family cemeteries as "outdoor museums" that are threatened >throughout the South. > >"A lot of the land has been sold, abandoned, come under forest, things like >that," he said. "People are concerned with them in a general fashion, but >unless it's your family, no one's tending them." > >In Tennessee, as in other Southern states, farm families in centuries past >tended to bury their dead on their own land, allowing for quick interment >and easy oversight of graves. In the Northeast, by contrast, families were >more likely to use public burial grounds and church cemeteries. > >"The Southern pattern was that every farm or plantation would have their >family cemetery," said Charles Reagan Wilson, director of the Center for >the Study of Southern Culture at the University of Mississippi. > >Over the years, many families dispersed, undergrowth overtook the >headstones and deeds changed hands. Some cemeteries -- particularly those where black families buried their kin -- used fieldstones as markers and are difficult to spot. > >State archaeologist Nick Fielder estimates that there are 20,000 family >cemeteries in Tennessee, but there's no way to know for sure. There's no >central inventory, and most documentation is done by historians and >volunteers who scour records and trudge through meadows in search of >graves. > >Fielder says about 100 family cemeteries fall in the path of development in >Tennessee each year, about two times as many as a decade ago. Under state law, he said, there's nothing sacred about sites. Relatives of the deceased have no legal leverage over family plots they don't own, and landowners who can pay to move a cemetery need only a judge's approval. > >"You get to rest in peace -- unless someone wants to do something where you rest," he said. > >From the Chandler cemetery hillside, the future isn't far. Traffic rumbles >past on Highway 109. Shoemaker Genesco Inc. has a distribution center up the road, and Dell assembles computers at a factory a few miles away. > >The relocation to a spot near the property line is moving forward despite >the plans that Jordan's great-great-great grandmother left in her will for >the cemetery. The family has no choice, because a deed that left the >cemetery land to Chandler descendants was lost, as was family control over the plots. > >Tom White, a lawyer who represents the landowner, said the move will put >the graves closer to the road and away from what probably will be a large >building in the middle of the property. > >"I don't know how you could do it much more ideally than this," he said. > >In nearby Mount Juliet is an example of what can happen when development overtakes cemeteries. At Nashville Auto Auction, a chain-link fence encircles thousands of cars and trucks on a 265-acre lot. Behind another fence and surrounded by a sea of asphalt is a low hill with a tiny family cemetery on top, nearly buried under tree limbs and oak leaves. > >There are other examples. North of Nashville, a cemetery is tucked in a >highway cloverleaf. There's a family cemetery on the grounds of the city >zoo. One family cemetery south of Nashville is on the grounds of a hotel, >next to a parking lot. > >Today, local history buffs often keep an eye on cemeteries. After a Whites >Creek resident e-mailed about one, Fielder headed north on a recent >afternoon. Just past the post office, he drove over a partly bulldozed >field and stopped beside a mound set off with markers. > >On top were two tilted headstones and two more that were flat on the >ground. The graves lay on a lot line of the 26-unit subdivision, which was >mapped out on a billboard for passing motorists. > >Fielder took a long metal rod out of his truck and began plunging it into >the ground. He muttered "yup, yup" as the rod sank easily into the earth, >indicating that there probably were graves outside of the staked area. > >A pickup truck pulled off the road, and David Martin -- the man who had >e-mailed Fielder about the graves -- got out. Martin, 47, said he drew >attention to the cemetery because he was eager for it to be taken care of. > >"I think it's important that we honor these people. This is their final >resting place, and just because someone wants to put a house or a bridge or a shopping center on top of it doesn't mean that you have the right to do >that," Martin said. > >Richard Binkley, who's building the subdivision, said he feels responsible >for the dead on the property, but is torn about what to do. He bought and >sold another property that had graves on it, and said he thinks his own >family's cemetery was damaged by a careless developer. > >"It's hard to buy a piece of property now that's on the outskirts of town >that doesn't have a grave on it of some kind," he said. "It's come down to >the point now where we're running out of space." > >© 2006 The Washington Post Company ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
I have visited the graves at Marthasville, and that is certainly the story told in that area. It sounds rather much like a standing "feud" as to who really has Daniel Boone. I believe they claim that the size of the body taken was too tall for Daniel. Nadine Mordt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Bowlin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Daniel Boone > Not forgetting. Just never heard that theory. That's an interesting one. > It would take DNA evidence to convince me, I'm afraid. --Kathy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carey Bankhead" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:34 AM > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Daniel Boone > > > > Someone is forgetting that it may not have been the bodies of Dan'l and > > Rebecca that were secreted from MO to KY but actually a slave > > couple...makes interesting reading. I'm currently reading Jos. Ellis' > > "His Excellency," which isn't terribly nice to its subject, Gen'l > > Washington. > > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > > Questions for the List Administrator? > > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >
Jane, While I cannot answer your specific question, your posting gives me an opportunity to mention that Omar Bradley "may" be (ironically, considering the discussions of late) a Boone descendant! In researching my gggg grandfather Timothy Logan who was born c.1759 in present-day Surry Co., NC and died in 1848 in Garrard Co., KY, I have found numerous family "legends" or "myths" which state his first wife was named Sarah Boone and was possibly a niece of Daniel Boone. How does this relate to Omar Bradley? Well, Timothy Logan's daughter Elizabeth married my ggg grandfather James Alexander in 1804 in Garrard Co., KY, and the Alexanders were parents of a daughter named Sarah "Sallie" Alexander who was born in 1805 in Garrard Co., KY and died c. 1865 in Randolph County and was married to Joel Hubbard. From everything I've read, the Hubbards are maternal great-grandparents of General Omar Bradley. Unfortunately, I cannot find any documentary proof of this supposed Boone connection. The best I have come up with (which isn't good enough at this point) is an obituary for Elizabeth Serilda (Alexander) Lynch who was a younger sister of Sallie (Alexander) Hubbard, which also mentions the Boone connection. Additionally, a biography for Elizabeth Lynch's husband, Neptune Lynch (whom she married on November 13, 1845 in Randolph Co., MO) mentions the relationship to Daniel Boone as well (please keep in mind that the biography has mixed up some first names). I am attaching this obituary and biography for the List (see below). Both were generously shared with me by Nancy Eastis, a descendant of Elizabeth Serilda (Alexander) Lynch and Neptune Lynch. Thanks! David Brown Plainsman Obituary Died-At her home near Plains, Tuesday morning, June 28, 1904, Mrs. Neptune Lynch, Sr., age 82 years. Mrs. Lynch was born in Garrett county Kentucky, March 5, 1822. Her maiden name was Elizabeth Serilda Alexander. Her father, James Alexander, moved to Howard county, Missouri, when she was four years of age, where she grew to womanhood. At the age of 22 she was married to Neptune Lynch, Sr., and remained in the same county until 1862, at which time with her husband and family crossed the plains to Boise City, Idaho, where they remained for four years and came to Montana, going to Helena. In the spring of 1870 the settled at Plains, and has resided here ever since. Mrs. Lynch was one of the pioneers in the full sense of the word, having been born in Kentucky when it was a wilderness, moved to Missouri with the first white settlers of that state and thence coming to the Rocky mountain regions and experiencing the hardships incident upon the building up of a new country. She was a lineal descendant of Daniel Boone and inherited the brave heart and noble character of her antece! dents. In her pioneer experience she saw many blood-curdling event. At one time eleven men were killed one-half mile from their train, and the train was surrounded but not attacked for some cause or other. The Indians were not the only danger the pioneers had to face, for at that time Idaho and Montana were overrun with white desperadoes who were attracted to this country by the discovery of gold. She witnessed the events which purged the country of that class of people. She was one of those cool, self reliant, courageous women, and she lived to see Montana embraced by civilization, law and order. She was always contented, never worried at misfortune and gracefully accepted conditions as they came, was always optimistic, looking at the future from the bright side. She was devoted mother and a loving wife. She was the mother of five children, three of which are living and were present to see her laid away. During her life honesty, kindness and charity were her religion, but before! the end came she embraced the Catholic faith. The funeral service was held from the house conducted by Rev. Father Mackin, and the remains were laid by the side of her husband in the burial plot just above her home. History of Montana, 1921 Neptune Lynch, whose record as a pioneer is properly told in this work, was born in County Galway, Ireland, in 1824, and acquired all his education before leaving his native land. He came to this country at the age of fourteen and leaving Castle Garden rode horseback across half the continent, at a time when there were no railroads, to Roanoke, Howard County, Missouri. There he made his home with his Uncle Lynch to the age of twenty. He then married Miss Elizabeth S. Alexander. They became the parents of five children: Charles A. , who is a resident of Kalispell, Montana, and has three sons; James D., who died in Calgary, Canada, thirty years ago; Neptune, Jr., who died at Plains twenty years ago, leaving two daughters and one son; Mrs. Elizabeth Lee Grinnell, who died in Spokane eleven years ago; and Mrs. Mary Lynch Boyer, a resident of Plains, and proprietor of the Hotel Northern of that city. In 1849, leaving his wife and two children with his uncle in Missouri, Neptune Lynch went by way of Panama to California, and remained in the far West six years. Returning to Missouri, after settling his uncle's estate he gathered his family around him, and in 1860 started again for the setting sun. His first location was at Denver; in 1862 he removed to Boise, Idaho, and in 1866 came to Montana, first locating at Helena, and for two years farming near the present site of Townsend. In the spring of 1870, following the Cedar Creek gold excitement, he joined that stampede and in November came to "Horse Plains," now Plains. Here he followed farming and stock raising the rest of his life. The family in the early days had frequent troubles with Indians, and endured many other hardships. One time the household was confined to an unvarying diet of potatoes for three weeks, and were thankful for that. There were no schools nor churches, but despite the lack of such advantages the ! Lynch home was a very happy one. Neptune lynch was a democrat in politics and a Catholic in religion. For several years while living in Missouri he studied medicine with Doctor Blake in that state. He obtained a knowledge that was useful to him and his family and to the entire community in Montana. He was able to handle all ordinary cases of illness in his own family, and was the doctor and nurse for all the people who lived in Plains during the seventies and eighties. In 1893, Mr. Lynch was in a railway accident, losing his left leg just below the knee, and suffered a great deal and was never quite the same strong man afterward. He was a rugged character, strong, kindly, sympathetic and greatly beloved by all who knew him. His generosity caused him to divide all that he had. His death occurred May 25, 1898, as a result of pneumonia, and his widow, who survived him six years, died of the same disease. Her people were Kentuckians, and she was born in that state, going with her family at the age of four years to Missouri. She was a great-grandniece to Daniel Boone. Her grandfather's name was Sidney Logan (note by David Brown -- should be Timothy Logan) and her father's name John Alexander (note by David Brown -- her father was James Alexander, but she did have a brother named John Alexander). Neptune Lynch served for a number of years as postmaster at Plains, finally resigning that office in 1883. Jane Debellis <[email protected]> wrote: Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the General. I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph County. When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Hi Jane, Thanks for your comments. Although I think it is getting worse, I agree that the "PC" trend is not new as I witnessed it first-hand when I was a student at Mizzou (which was also about 20 years ago). Speaking of which, can you give the names of the Mizzou Rural Sociology professor and History professor who were studying migration patterns (you mentioned this in an earlier posting). I took a class in Rural Sociology with Dr. Hartman and wondered if he was one of the professors involved with that project. Thanks! David Jane Debellis <[email protected]> wrote: I won't address which side is right and which side is wrong here, other than to say having grown up in a county next to one named for Daniel Boone, I've not heard a lot disparaging comments about him but I'm sure he had his detractors as well as his supporters in his time. It is quite likely there is a bit of truth in both accounts. I will add that as someone who majored in history the "politically correct" concept of history is nothing new. It really is revisionist in some ways and typically it all comes together and out in the wash so to speak eventually. Also, sometimes the best book on a person or event was written years ago and so to get published (and to get tenure you have to get published) you have to provide new interpretations that may disagree with or contradict the original ones. I have seen this with biographies of both Presidents Roosevelts, Eisenhower and several of our founding fathers. Our own beloved Harry S. Truman is a victim of this...Fortunately there are still historians like David McCollough dedicated to doing the research and debunking myths with the truth. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BROWN [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Daniel Boone Hi James, Well said! There have been books of late that are very critical of Daniel Boone. Unfortunately, this is a trend we see too often relative to the treatment of our American icons! I think too many of our current-day "politically correct" historians are more intent on tearing down the founders and trailblazers of our country than anything else (usually, they will resort to personal smears that really have no historical significance to the individual in question). I'm sure Daniel Boone had his faults (don't we all), but I also know that he (and his family) played a pivotal role in the early history and settlement of Kentucky. It is interesting to note that some 20 years after Daniel Boone's death in Missouri, the State of Kentucky was adamant that his body be exhumed and moved to Frankfort! To give Kentucky credit, they did build a beautiful tombstone/memorial honoring a great American. Finally, I don't know about people in southwestern Virginia, but it is news to me that people in Kentucky do not think much of Daniel Boone (I believe just recently, they named another highway in KY in honor of Daniel Boone)! Thanks again for your message! David Brown [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2006 7:29:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do know that Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or KY.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. You seem to have come to a different conclusion then I have about the history of Daniel Boon Makes me wonder what Political Correct book you derived your conclusions of Mr Boone from? Not only did the KY. carpet braggers, steal his land, you now find it necessary to trample upon his good name. Guilty conscience? Send his body from Frankfort back to MO. We will honor his grave, his name & his role he played in the setteling of the west. He may not have worn silk underpants but he was the type of man needed. He got er gone. James M Bagby Indep. MO ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected] ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected] ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Hi..I have 3 families that came to MO from KY by 1820..William Harvey (married Polly Robertson) migrated to Howard County, MO along with the Thomas Patterson family (William's daughter, Mary Jane Harvey, married Thomas Patterson 1804 in Madison County, KY.) William Harvey (d. about 1819) was a Revolutionary War veteran and is listed as being buried in Howard County, although I don't know where. Thomas Patterson died about 1830 in Howard County, MO.he and Mary Jane are still alive (age 40-50) in the 1830 Howard County, MO census. I don't know where their burials are either. Both the Harvey's and Pattersons were in Prairie Township, Howard County, MO. My husband descends from Thomas and Mary Jane Harvey Patterson's daughter, Minerva Patterson..she was born about 1805 in KY and died June 1881 in Roanoke, Randolph County, MO at the age of 76 years, 5 months and 9 days. She is buried in Roanoke Cemetery along with her son, W. Berry Richardson (b. 1852, d. in Armstrong, Howard County, MO in 1924.) I don't believe that W. Berry Richardson ever married.I have his death certificate but have yet to locate an obituary for him. Minerva Patterson married Schuyler Richardson 1834 in Howard County, MO. The family located to Macon County, MO 1840-1860 then Schuyler and Minerva went to Howard County (living with Rice Patterson, Minerva's brother) in 1870 and in 1880 Roanoke, Randolph County, MO. I have yet to find out anything about the death date/burial of Schuyler Richardson..he was still alive in 1892 as per this article found in Howard co, MO Newspapers, Vol 1 (1885--1894) abstracted by Sherry Raleigh-Adams, Apr 1, 1892 - "Schuyler Richardson, father of W.B. Richardson of Roanoke, is in his 81st year. Since the death of his wife, he has been making his home with his children in Chariton, Randolph and Howard counties. Some two weeks ago, he mounted his horse and rode up to Cairo. He is a democrat of the old school." Schuyler Richardson lists being born in KY in all the census records I have found him in..I am not sure what county. I do have information on most of the children of Schuyler and Minerva Patterson Richardson if anyone is interested: Melsena b. 1829, John Harvey b. 1836.my husband's direct ancestor, Lucinda F. b. 1838, James b. 1843, Sarah M. b. 1845, Rice b. 1850 and W. Berry b. 1852. I am continuing to search for information about the death/burial of Schuyler Richardson and any information that may lead to who his parents were:-) Thanks to a great list for all the information about the migration of families from KY to MO! Alison Bigbee
Yes, I think the Kimbroughs were from Caswell Co., NC. Also, I thought of another family -- the Richmonds although I'm not sure if they migrated to Randolph County at the same time as the "Caravan." Thanks for mentioning the Kimbroughs! David Ben Hardin <[email protected]> wrote: Perhaps Kimbroughs? -- Ben --- DAVID BROWN wrote: > There was also an interesting migration from Caswell > Co., NC to Randolph Co., MO, which occurred around > 1830. The "caravan" included the following > families: Dameron, Malone, Mathis, Upton, Jackson. > Am I missing anyone? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Hi Ben, Great to hear from you and glad I could help. Let me know if you need any other information from Spraker's book. Hope you're doing well. David Ben Hardin <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks David, for the reference to the book by Hazel Atterbury Spraker that discusses the Burris and Tribble families and their connection with the Boones. Thomas Burris and Frances Tandy were my 5th g-grandparents. A double thanks. Your post helped me spot a few duplications in my database. -- Ben --- DAVID BROWN wrote: > Hi Donna, > ....Sarah Burris was born 1753 and married Andrew Tribble -- the couple moved to KY in 1785. Apparently, the Boone connection is through descendants of this Andrew Tribble and Sarah Burris couple.... > David > > donna wrote: > My father-in-law 83 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Carey, I read a similar story which stated that when they went to exhume the bodies of Daniel Boone and his wife Rebecca Bryan, they had forgotten their burial location and made an educated guess! Like you said, who knows what the truth really is, but it does make for an interesting discussion! Thanks for your comment! David Brown Carey Bankhead <[email protected]> wrote: No, there have been articles originating both here in MO at how the KY guys were slickered into thinking that they actually had the Boone bodies, and from KY saying how they had out foxed Missourians. I take 'The Kentucky Explorer,' and it had an article not too long ago re this. It's interesting reading how so many people and places claim the same thing. I was going through several back issues of the 'Explorer" that I got from another subscriber and have donated to the Randolph Co Hist Society in Moberly, and ran across an items several years ago in which it was claimed that a cabin somewhere in KY was what HB Stowe based 'Uncle Tom's Cabin' on. Well this weeks ago I believe it was Frederick, MD who announced that a cabin there was being given historic significance status since it was the one the story was based on. Who knows?? ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Hi Leslie, Great to hear from you again. My connection to William Holman and Eleanor Barnes is through their daughter Frances Holman who married Samuel Boone Bradley (my ggg grandparents) on June 23, 1835. Interestingly, a description of their wedding was related by Rev. S.Y. Pitts in the July 9, 1909 Huntsville Herald as shown below: From the July 9, 1909 Huntsville Herald, an article entitled "In Ye Olden Times - Some Early Courtships and Marriages in Randolph County," and is written/recollected by Rev. S.Y. Pitts. The article is transcribed as follows: "Among the earliest and most lasting impressions is a wedding scene. Late in the thirtys, the pretty Fannie Holman married the sturdy blacksmith, Samuel Bradley. My mother took a special interest in the preparations. For a whole week things had been moving with wedding haste. It was a mile and a half from our clearing down through the dense forest to the Holman Cabin. The dogs greeted every comer with a welcome bark. The whole settlement was then on the same footing - no cards or invitations had been sent out. The yard was full of men and boys, a well lighted log heap made everything radient to the tree tops. The cabin was birght and cherry. The walls had received a coating of white clay, from the Bonnell bank, little inferior to paint. The touch of an artists hand had left its impress on decorations of room and table. A crackling fire, some smaller than the one out of doors, with a back-log, it took two men to roll in, with dry wood and scaly-bark-hickory accompaniments shamed modest daylight. A table full length the room, just near enough the wall to pass 'round, groaned under substantials and delicacies of the season. The center piece was a half grown dressed pig, natural as life with a red apple in his mouth awaiting its fate. Behind a KY, log-cabin quilt, draped for the occasion, was an unseen ladder, down which Miss Fannie might have tripped, any day, without touching a hand, but now, was lovingly assisted to the floor, where the groom, with thumping heart was awaiting her. Four young girls, whose natural olive and ruby no cosmetic had ever marred, with white dresses, decoliette, and short sleeves, each bearing a lighted candle preceded them to the middle of the room. I had heard my mother tell many a fairy tale, but here was one, enacted, whose beauty and pleasure the mists of 70 years have failed to dim. I cannot now recall a person living, mother, bride and groom all gone. "Unlce Sam" Bradley, I have known and loved so well passed away, last year at 93." ~~ Leslie Kohler ~~ <[email protected]> wrote: David Brown [email protected] wrote: > My ggggg grandfather William Holman and wife Eleanor > Barnes moved from Madison Co., KY to present-day > Randolph Co., MO around 1817/1818. ------------------------------------- Good Morning David and All, My husband's GGGgrandparents were also Wm HOLMAN and Eleanor BARNES. He is descended through their son, Squire HOLMAN (b 1807, Madison County, KY). Leslie Kohler ============= ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]
Hi Carey, I have read accounts that the Bryan family which was closely associated with the Boones was also related to William Jennings Bryan. It would be interesting to know how they are connected. I am enclosing information on the Bryans starting with William Bryan who married Mary Boone. William Bryan was the son of Morgan Bryan who was a Quaker immigrant to Pennsylvania. Thanks! David WILLIAM BRYAN (MORGAN) was born 10 Mar 1733/34 in Chester, Pennsylvania, and died 30 May 1780 in Bryan's Station, Kentucky. He married MARY BOONE Bet. 1754 - 1755 in Rowan County, North Carolina, daughter of SQUIRE BOONE and SARAH MORGAN. She was born 03 Nov 1736 in Pennsylvania, and died 1819 in Kentucky. Notes for WILLIAM BRYAN: Son of Morgan Bryan who was (supposedly) born in Denmark in 1671. In the year 1710, Morgan Bryan removed to Virginia and settled on Opequan Creek, about twelve miles from Winchester, VA, where most of his children grew up and were married and where he remained until the year 1748. His wife died in Winchester, VA, in 1747, and in 1748, he removed to the Yadkin River Country, North Carolina where he died in 176- (3?)." Notes for MARY BOONE: From "The Boone Family, a Genalogical History of the Descendants of George and Mary Boone Who Came to America in 1717," by Hazel Atterbury Spraker: "Married in Rowan Co., North Carolina, William Bryan, son of Morgan Bryan and Martha Strode. After several years residence in N.C. where all of their children were born, they moved to Kentucky, and settled at Bryan's Station, which William and his brothers founded. This station was located on Elkhorn Creek, Fayette Co., near where the historic battle of Blue Licks took place in Aug., 1782." Note by DTB: William Bryan was killed by wounds received during an encounter with Indians on May 7, 1780. It is said that Mary (Boone) Bryan went back to North Carolina after her husband's death, allegedly stating she would rather die from starvation in "Carolina," than from all the "troubles" of Kentucky. Of course, she did return to Kentucky after hostilities were ended. More About WILLIAM BRYAN and MARY BOONE: Marriage: Bet. 1754 - 1755, Rowan County, North Carolina Children of WILLIAM BRYAN and MARY BOONE are: 3. i. SARAH3 BRYAN, b. 01 Sep 1770, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1855, Kentucky. ii. SAMUEL BRYAN, b. 06 May 1756, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. 04 Mar 1837. iii. DANIEL BOONE BRYAN, b. 10 Feb 1758, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. 28 Feb 1845. iv. WILLIAM BRYAN, b. 07 Dec 1760, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. 08 Mar 1780. v. PHEBE BRYAN, b. 24 Jan 1763, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. 03 Apr 1785. vi. HANNAH BRYAN, b. 10 Jan 1765, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. JOHN WICOFF/WESTROPOE. vii. JOHN ANDREW BRYAN, b. 06 Feb 1768, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. Dec 1779. viii. MARY BRYAN, b. 20 May 1769, Rowan County, North Carolina; d. Unknown, Unknown. ix. ABNER BRYAN, b. 21 Nov 1772, North Carolina; d. Apr 1780. x. ELIZABETH BRYAN, b. 16 Nov 1774, North Carolina; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. JOSEPH DEHART. Generation No. 3 3. SARAH BRYAN (WILLIAM, MORGAN) was born 01 Sep 1770 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1855 in Kentucky. She married JAMES GRIMES Bef. 1795, son of PHILLIP GRIMES and MARY DOWDALL. He was born 20 Jan 1760 in Rowan County, North Carolina, and died 15 Jun 1828 in Fayette County, Kentucky. More About JAMES GRIMES and SARAH BRYAN: Marriage: Bef. 1795 Children of SARAH BRYAN and JAMES GRIMES are: i. NANCY BRYAN4 GRIMES, b. 11 Mar 1789, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. 07 May 1836, Randolph County, Missouri; m. TERRY JOSEPH BRADLEY, 08 Jan 1805, Fayette County, Kentucky; b. 16 Apr 1786, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. 17 Apr 1862, Randolph County, Missouri. Notes for NANCY BRYAN GRIMES: Granddaughter of William Bryan and Mary Boone, also a sibling of Daniel Boone. Nancy Grimes was a great-granddaugther of Morgan Bryan, described as follows in "Carolina Cradle, Settlement of the Northwest Carolina Frontier, 1747-1762," by Robert W. Ramsey: "The most prominent of settlers in northwestern Carolina before 1752 was Morgan Bryan. he was a member of the New Garden Quaker community in Chester County, Pennsylvania, in 1719, and accompanied by his brother, he moved westward into the Pequea Creek district by 1724. Bryan evidently prospered through the Indian trade, for in October, 1730, he and Alexander Ross, another Quaker from New Garden, pruchased from Virginia's Governor Gooch one hundred thousand acres of alnd on the waters of Opequon Creek upon which they settled a colony of Friends. Bryan himself purchased a tract (in present-day Berkeley County, West Virginia) ona branch of Opequon Creek and settled there in 1734. Fourteen years later, he removed with his large family to North Carolina, making his home on the south bank of Deep Creek four or five miles above "shallow ford" on the Yadkin." In North Carolina and into Kentucky, the Boone and Bryan families were very close. Rebecca Bryan, wife of Daniel Boone, was a niece of William Bryan who married Mary Boone. Notes for TERRY JOSEPH BRADLEY: Terry Joseph Bradley, first assessor of Randolph County, member of first Randolph County Grand Jury, and first postmaster of Huntsville, MO was the eldest son of Leonard Keeling Bradley and Mary "Polly" Boone. His obituary appeared in the April 23, 1862 Macon Gazette as follows: "Died at his residence in Huntsville, MO, on Thursday last, April 17th, 1862, mainly of old age and infirmities, Mr. Terry Bradley, on his 77th birthday. The deceased was one of the most worthy citizens of that community, and respected by all. For several years past he was confined to his room, being sorely afflected (sic) by Rheumatism, which he bore with christian resignation, and now is gone, we hope to a better world." More About TERRY BRADLEY and NANCY GRIMES: Marriage: 08 Jan 1805, Fayette County, Kentucky ii. PHOEBE GRIMES, b. 04 Mar 1795, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. 31 Mar 1862. iii. MARY GRIMES, b. 05 Jan 1788, Fayette County, Kentucky. iv. JAMES GRIMES, b. Abt. 1796, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. 08 Apr 1872. v. MALINDA GRIMES, b. 20 Dec 1802, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. 09 Feb 1862. vi. CAROLINE GRIMES, b. Jun 1806, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. 22 Jul 1876. vii. LEWIS BRYAN GRIMES, b. Abt. 1808. viii. JOHN GRIMES, b. Abt. 1794, Fayette County, Kentucky; d. Bef. 05 Jun 1828. ix. ELIZABETH GRIMES. x. PARMELIA GRIMES, m. BENJAMIN BLEDSOE. xi. SARAH GRIMES, b. Abt. 1799.
My ancestors were Turners who were neighbors of Daniel Boone in NC in the Yadkin Valley, then moved with him to Madison Co., KY. Both groups came on to MO, however not to the same area--Boones to St. Charles Co., etc., and the Turners to Randolph and Boone Counties. I learned that those two groups of Turners shared common ancestry. My maiden name was Turner (Boone Co. group) and my maternal g. grandmother's side (she married a Steely) came to Randolph Co. What was known as the "Turner Plantation" is north of Moberly and covers ground belonging to the city of Moberly and also the quarry area. My ancestors are buried at Sugar Creek and also on the "plantation" ground. Nadine (Turner) Mordt ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TO MISSOURI > In the early period prior to the Rev. War, people would move on West due to > Primogeniture. Only the oldest son would inherit the farm and the younger must > become professional or work for someone. The younger sons would receive > household goods, furniture, money, dads old Kentucky rifle or such. That gave them a > stake to head west and find property of their own. The old Indian Road down > the Valley of Virginia became a major highway of that day. In 1775 Daniel Boone > and a large party of axe men cleared the Wilderness Road over the Cumberland > Gap from VA into Ky. That opened KY for settlement. Daniel Boone and Dr Thomas > Walker were Land Agents and largely responsible for the Westward expansion > prior to the Louis & Clark period. I see a major exit of KY in favor of MO > starting in <1820> and lasting for 20 years. Was that a component of Louis & Clark? > Maybe. > My g.g. grandmother was a HURT in KY with family from WINN, BARNETT, TURNER, > PEYTON, LEFTWICH. ALLEN, CALLISON and many others. > > Howard Fitzpatrick > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >