Hello List and especially "NOAH", I have been waiting to see if anybody would add one of the major Kentucky Counties for migration to Randolph. Noah, you did, and it is Wayne Co., Ky. The families that I have documented over the last ten years include the ones you mentioned as well as the RAMSEY, BAKER, SUMMERS, SUMPTER, MIKEL, BURRIS, DAVIS, ACREY, BURTON, GREEN, TUTTLE, VICKERY, AND WRIGHT families. I am sure there are more and in time I will find them. I am related to most of these families listed above and would love to communicate with any and all. Another interesting thing about these migrations from Wayne Co. they lasted for a long, long period of time. I have the first arrivals around 1810 and the last around 1900. Bill Ramsey ----- Original Message ----- From: Noah Smothers To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: [MoRandolph] Kentucky to Missouri Another county in Kentucky from which came many of the Randolph County citizens is Wayne County, Kentucky. The Poe, Duncan, Dodson, and Denney families all have ties to Wayne County, Kentucky. Also another family from Madison County, Kentucky was the Perkins families. Noah I shall pass through this world but once. Any good therefore I can do or any kindness that I can show to any human being let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again. William Penn ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Another county in Kentucky from which came many of the Randolph County citizens is Wayne County, Kentucky. The Poe, Duncan, Dodson, and Denney families all have ties to Wayne County, Kentucky. Also another family from Madison County, Kentucky was the Perkins families. Noah I shall pass through this world but once. Any good therefore I can do or any kindness that I can show to any human being let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again. William Penn

Thank you for the information on Cora Belle. I wonder how she and Joseph met? RJ

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Ok RJ Cora Belle CLINE b.28 Nov 1866 Boone Co.IA d/o Squire Gilruth CLINE/Margery Ellen MORIARTY. Cora Belle CLINE goes back to William CLINE b.23 Jun 1746 NJ, d. 23 Aug 1853 Jay Co. IN. William CLINE served in Rev. War. Conrad KLINE, his father was from Holland. Squire Gilruth was a Vet. Dr and raised race horses. He dragged his family from town to town all over KS, NB, IA, OH. I also descend from William CLINE 1746-1853. My g.grandfather, Abraham Norman CLINE was a younger bro. of Squire Gilruth CLINE. They were the children of Joseph John William CLINE/Rebecca N. JONES m.15 Sep 1842 Jay Co. IN. My grandmother, Annie Rebecca CLINE d/o Abraham N. CLINE/ Frances Henrietta MURTY m. Edward FITZPATRICK 1895 Audrain Co. MO. Howard Fitzpatrick

Than you Carey: I'll add that info to my database. Norman Blansett ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carey Bankhead <[email protected]> wrote: >Joe Lay was a brother of George who was associated with the Citizens Bank of Higbee, dying very suddenly ca l929. His widow, Mary Hackward Lay, an English lady by birth, was our next door neighbor when I was a baby. > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

How about Professor Charles SHARP ? Norman Blansett __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Hi David, I really don't remember that too well. It seems like in my history colloquium where we set and listened to the faculty describe their research interests one of the history faculty members indicated they were interested in the migration patterns to Missouri. I know it was none of the European or Asian historians so it was likely one of the American historians. Pretty sure it wasn't Cunningham since he was an eminent Jefferson scholar and Collins was 20th century. I can't remember who else I had for 18th and 19th Century America and it could have been that professor. I think the one I had for late 19th century America left MU for a more prestigious department just before or after I graduated in 1986. Jane -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BROWN [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Daniel Boone Hi Jane, Thanks for your comments. Although I think it is getting worse, I agree that the "PC" trend is not new as I witnessed it first-hand when I was a student at Mizzou (which was also about 20 years ago). Speaking of which, can you give the names of the Mizzou Rural Sociology professor and History professor who were studying migration patterns (you mentioned this in an earlier posting). I took a class in Rural Sociology with Dr. Hartman and wondered if he was one of the professors involved with that project. Thanks! David Jane Debellis <[email protected]> wrote: I won't address which side is right and which side is wrong here, other than to say having grown up in a county next to one named for Daniel Boone, I've not heard a lot disparaging comments about him but I'm sure he had his detractors as well as his supporters in his time. It is quite likely there is a bit of truth in both accounts. I will add that as someone who majored in history the "politically correct" concept of history is nothing new. It really is revisionist in some ways and typically it all comes together and out in the wash so to speak eventually. Also, sometimes the best book on a person or event was written years ago and so to get published (and to get tenure you have to get published) you have to provide new interpretations that may disagree with or contradict the original ones. I have seen this with biographies of both Presidents Roosevelts, Eisenhower and several of our founding fathers. Our own beloved Harry S. Truman is a victim of this...Fortunately there are still historians like David McCollough dedicated to doing the research and debunking myths with the truth. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL -----Original Message----- From: DAVID BROWN [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Daniel Boone Hi James, Well said! There have been books of late that are very critical of Daniel Boone. Unfortunately, this is a trend we see too often relative to the treatment of our American icons! I think too many of our current-day "politically correct" historians are more intent on tearing down the founders and trailblazers of our country than anything else (usually, they will resort to personal smears that really have no historical significance to the individual in question). I'm sure Daniel Boone had his faults (don't we all), but I also know that he (and his family) played a pivotal role in the early history and settlement of Kentucky. It is interesting to note that some 20 years after Daniel Boone's death in Missouri, the State of Kentucky was adamant that his body be exhumed and moved to Frankfort! To give Kentucky credit, they did build a beautiful tombstone/memorial honoring a great American. Finally, I don't know about people in southwestern Virginia, but it is news to me that people in Kentucky do not think much of Daniel Boone (I believe just recently, they named another highway in KY in honor of Daniel Boone)! Thanks again for your message! David Brown [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2006 7:29:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I do know that Daniel Boone didn't have a very good reputation here in southwest VA. or KY.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va. You seem to have come to a different conclusion then I have about the history of Daniel Boon Makes me wonder what Political Correct book you derived your conclusions of Mr Boone from? Not only did the KY. carpet braggers, steal his land, you now find it necessary to trample upon his good name. Guilty conscience? Send his body from Frankfort back to MO. We will honor his grave, his name & his role he played in the setteling of the west. 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Valerie: I did a Mapquest search of Central Ave & Riverside Ave, Riverside, CA 92506, Riverside County, US and found a rather large Cemetery named " Olivewood Cemetery" east of the 91 Fwy,. Norman Blansett __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Valerie: You said your ancestor is Joe LAY, is Ethleen also in your line ? I forgot to tell you about my site. http://members.tripod.com/Blansett/ Please take a look and you will see how I am lacking some of the info I need. Norman Blansett "Valerie Goldstein" <[email protected]> wrote: >Norman - I haven't heard of the Yorba cemetery and I must live 10 - 15 miles >from it. I will definitely check it out. Are you here in the area? Are >your Blansett folks from Randolph County, Mo. My ancestor, Joe Lay, married >an Ethleen Blansett, who was the daughter of a Moses Blansett. Ethleen was >born in the late 1800's and died mid 1900's (don't have my notes out). > >Valerie Goldstein >Orange, California > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:33 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MoRandolph] Preserving old cemeteries > >Hello List: > >I really don't know why there should be a problem preserving old cemeteries. > >Orange county, Ca., is a good example. > >The Yorba cemetery has been in Orange county since Bernardo Yorba was >granted land by Spain. > >The cemetery was in a rural setting east of Atwood and South of Yorba Linda >until the housing boom started in Orange county. > >The cemetery was set aside and preserved by Orange county. > >I last saw the cemetery in 1993 and it was a beautiful setting surrounded by >homes and apartments. > >Norman Blansett > >__________________________________________________________________ >Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > >Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > >New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > >==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >Questions for the List Administrator? >Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > >==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >Questions for the List Administrator? >Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

You're not thinking of Rusty Marshall, who recently retired, and who has worked with the Randolph Co Historical Society a lot?

Hello Valerie: We, my mother and 3 brothers, boarded a train in Hoxie,Lawrence,Ar., in 1939. My father had driven out several months prior to our feparture as my mother was pregnant with the youngest child and couldn't travel. We rode the train to Orange,Orange,Ca., and got off at the old depot there. I retired from Orange County Marshal Dept., in 1993 and returned to Pocahontas,Randolph, Ar. Probably the best way to Yorba Cemetery would be; go north on the 57 to Orangethorpe, go east on Orangethorpe for several miles [ thru Atwood ] The Yorba cemetery is about 1/4 mile east of Yorba Linda Blvd.it is on the left side of road but, you can' t see it from Orangethorpe. I have Ethleen Blansett but I didn't have her father, I have her husband Joseph D. Lay and the marriage date but no other info. If you can fill in the missing info I would surely like to have it. Norman Blansett "Valerie Goldstein" <[email protected]> wrote: >Norman - I haven't heard of the Yorba cemetery and I must live 10 - 15 miles >from it. I will definitely check it out. Are you here in the area? Are >your Blansett folks from Randolph County, Mo. My ancestor, Joe Lay, married >an Ethleen Blansett, who was the daughter of a Moses Blansett. Ethleen was >born in the late 1800's and died mid 1900's (don't have my notes out). > >Valerie Goldstein >Orange, California > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:33 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MoRandolph] Preserving old cemeteries > >Hello List: > >I really don't know why there should be a problem preserving old cemeteries. > >Orange county, Ca., is a good example. > >The Yorba cemetery has been in Orange county since Bernardo Yorba was >granted land by Spain. > >The cemetery was in a rural setting east of Atwood and South of Yorba Linda >until the housing boom started in Orange county. > >The cemetery was set aside and preserved by Orange county. > >I last saw the cemetery in 1993 and it was a beautiful setting surrounded by >homes and apartments. > >Norman Blansett > >__________________________________________________________________ >Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > >Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > >New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > >==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >Questions for the List Administrator? >Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > >==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >Questions for the List Administrator? >Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

I can sign up - my grandmother is Alpha Loretta Bradley, daughter of Hampton B. Bradley. Hampton's brother was Thomas Minter Bradley who had son John Smith Bradley who had Omar Bradley - that makes my grandmother the niece of Omar's grandfather, a someodd cousin of John Smith and another someodd cousin of Omar. We grew up in Jackson, Tennessee always knowing that we were related to General of the Army Omar Bradley. We visited Clark, Moberly this past summer and stayed with Dorothea Bradley - the granddaughter of Coleman Bradley - Alpha's brother. Located her 6 years ago when we first visited Moberly. My father was named for Hampton and me for him so that really ties us in Hamp williams -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Goldstein [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Hey, we can have our own "I think I'm related to Omar" reunion! We might have to rent out a large hall, though. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Bowlin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Hi Carolyn, I think our connection is through the Wisdom family, back to John Wisdom and Ann Collins. I think the relationship calendar said I was a 6th cousin twice removed. I doubt I'll be invited to the family reunions. Your link might be closer. Kathy Bowlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley >I also have been told by my mother who was told by HER father that Omar > Bradley is a cousin - she called him "cousin Omer" - I tracked it down one > time and of course did not write it down = he turned out to be related > dimly > - about 3rd cousin once removed or some such. I think when anyone famous > comes from the same neighborhood, people try to get in on it. > > The same type of thing happened with another branch of my family. They > came > from Illinois and some were buried in the "Tom Lincoln" graveyard where > Abe's parents were buried. He came to town one time, and in a newspaper > article many years later, one of my relatives was interviewed and wanted > to > talk about how close he and Abe were - but not. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley > > Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous > occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley > was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to > her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the > General. > > > > I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman > line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not > accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all > well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no > matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is > through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area > long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph > County. > > > > When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my > grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that > could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my > uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth > somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they > attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church > in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. > > > > If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional > information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this > relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. > > > > Jane DeBellis > > Milton, FL > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected] ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

A family cemetery on an ancestral farm in Kentucky, definitely a rural setting even today, more than 150 years after most of the burials, is being overrun by the current farmer's haystacks and cattle. A distant cousin in Missouri is working hard to restore the cemetery. Just another bit of "Cemeteries of the South" food for thought. Frances

Yes, Bradley relatives in this area: http://www.andersonconnection.org/report28/wc01/wc01_296.htm Jayme -----Original Message----- From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Omar Bradley Here goes a new topic for the evening. I have been told on numerous occasions by my mother (and possibly her brother) that General Bradley was a cousin. My younger sister asked this again of me and I related to her that it is possible but I have not been able to find any link to the General. I have long surmised some connection through the Foreman (or Forman line) as there are several of my great-grandmothers sisters I have not accounted for. The other lines for maternal great-grandparents are all well accounted for and at least through Bradley's grandparents no matches are apparent. It could be more logical that rather the link is through the Ragsdales or Stipps who were in the Randolph County area long before my great-grandmother and her sisters came to Randolph County. When Bradley came back to Moberly in 1966 for the centennial, my grandfather had his picture taken with him and my brothers and that could be the source of this myth, but thinking that I have heard my uncle confirm this, I tend to think there may be a grain of truth somewhere. I know my grandmother was a classmate of Bradley's and they attended church and Sunday School together at Central Christian Church in Moberly and perhaps that somehow also got tangled into the myth. If there are any Bradley researchers out there with additional information I'd love to hear it. I'm not strongly attached to this relationship so debunking it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. Jane DeBellis Milton, FL ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

My grandfather's sister, Lulu FITZPATRICK m. Arthur L. TRIBBLE s/o O. F. TRIBBLE/Sarah E. Boone Co. MO.1880 Census. The Census list O.F. TRIBBLE b. 1842 KY. Does anyone know how O.F. TRIBBLE fits into the KY TRIBBLES? O.F. TRIBBLE had a son, Otho B. TRBBLE so was O.F TRIBBLE "Otho F.TRBBLE" ? Howard Fitzpatrick

Joe Lay was a brother of George who was associated with the Citizens Bank of Higbee, dying very suddenly ca l929. His widow, Mary Hackward Lay, an English lady by birth, was our next door neighbor when I was a baby.

As usual I couldn't find what I thought I had re the Green's, Stevenson's, etc., but in my l905 history of an Episcopal parish in Culpepper Co, VA I did find again a sketch titled 'The Bryan-Lillard Family.' My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Lillard, and descended from this family. The women in the family joined the DAR via Capt John Lillard. This piece states that Jos. Bryan settled in Culpepper in l752 having come from King George County, and 'is supposed to have been' the father of Wm. Bryan, who was the gr.grandfather of Wm. Jennings Bryan who, in l904 when this book was being written, was for the 2nd of 3 times a candidate for the Presidency. This Wm. lived near Sperryville (now...in l904...Rappahannock) and had among other c. John, who m. Nancy Lillard. It states she was a daughter of John Lillard of the Revolution, who lived in the Bryan vicinity. John Bryan, WJB's grandfather, left VA in l925; Silas Lillard Bryan, WJB's father, was then 4 yrs old. John settled on the banks of the Ohio...he and Nancy died in l830 and l835, respectively. The family moved to MO/IL and in l840 Silas....WJB's father....went to live with an older brother in MO....he went to IL where he was educated, engaged in politics, etc., leaving WJB and other children. I'll have to check my Lillard book as to who this John was, but I suspect that it is another than mine. As for the Stevenson's, I believe it was Letitia Green Stevenson who was the wife of the first Adlai Ewing Stevenson, one-time VP of the US; and they were the grandparents of the Adlai who ran against Ike twice and lost. I've printed out your info on the Boone's, etc., and will keep it in mind as I look further into these families. I was taken again at how many surnames I noticed that are among those of early Randolph Co, MO settlers.

In a message dated 3/30/06 7:21:18 PM, [email protected] writes: << Hi..I have 3 families that came to MO from KY by 1820..William Harvey (married Polly Robertson) migrated to Howard County, MO along with the Thomas Patterson family (William's daughter, Mary Jane Harvey, married Thomas Patterson 1804 in Madison County, KY.) William Harvey (d. about 1819) was a Revolutionary War veteran and is listed as being buried in Howard County, although I don't know where. Thomas Patterson died about 1830 in Howard County, MO.he and Mary Jane are still alive (age 40-50) in the 1830 Howard County, MO census. I don't know where their burials are either. Both the Harvey's and Pattersons were in Prairie Township, Howard County, MO. >> William Harvey Sr REV SOLDIERS BUR IN MO, P. 104; Mar Rec Mad Co., Ky; Land and Deed Rec Mad Co., Ky; Mar Bonds, Mad Co., Ky; Cem Rec Howard Co., Mo; Cen Rec Mad Co., Ky; 1850 Cen; Cen Rec Howard Co.,Tax Rec Mad Co., Ky listing men over 21; Pet to Va Asembly from Ky; HISTORY OF WILLIAM WILDER HARVEY FAM by T. Ferguson; Misc correspondence; Inv Wills Madison Col, Ky Served as private in Kirtley Co., Taylors Va Regiment, 9th Va Report of State Library, p. 141; War Dept 25 1/2 - note William Harvey appraised estate of Margaret Kirtley, 1781. 1744 b. Culpepper Co., Mo 1781 - appraisal estate of Margaret Kirtley, 20 Aug 1781 1787 - William Harvey inventory and appraisal estate of Jermiah Early, 17 Apr 1787 Culpepper Co., Va (Joel Harvey witness will of Jermiah Early 16 Jan 1786) 1787 - William Harvey of Madiso Co., Ky petions to Va Assembly to establish ferry across Ky River from Madison Co. to Fayette Co. 1801 - Capt Will Harvey, Madiso Co., Militia Reg (father or son?) 1818 - to Howard Co., Mo William Harvey Sr. Will of William Harvey, Howard Co; Mar Rec Howard Co; DAR application through John H. Harvey 1827 - William Harvey of Howard Co sold to John Henderson of Madison Co., Ky 240 acres on Paint Lick Creek for 1100., Deed Bk R,/ p. 343. 1813 Muster Roll Cap Dudley Farris of dudleys Militai Reg - Private William Harvey, possibly william Jr.. Madison Co., Ky Note: Margaret KIRTLEY listed above is Margaret ROBERTS (sometimes that family is listed as ROBERTSON). She was wife of Francis KIRTLEY. They are my 6G Grandparents. Linda Manning

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