>Do your Blakes include the Blake who was a Salisbury banker for many years? > Yes, that was David Theobald "Pete" Blake. We had the same great-grandfather, Ephraim Blake, who is buried in the old Blake Cemetery near Roanoke. Pete and his family are in the Salisbury City Cemetery. Clark --

David - I just wanted to add that my original comments in no way were meant to be critical of the wonderful volunteers who have worked on this project. My goal was rather to encourage people not to be too rigid in their searches. As you point out the original recorders of the information could make mistakes - plus sometimes their handwriting was sloppy - leaving the records vulnerable to misinterpretation years later. I am over the moon over this whole project. It's helped me in my research by often confirming (or providing) birthdates, death dates, birth & death locations, cemetery where deceased was buried and family relationships. As a bonus I often get the maiden names of the mother of the deceased. It is also so thrilling to have access to the actual signatures of your ancestors on a document. Carole In a message dated 4/23/2006 12:51:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Carole, I agree as I think the death certificates are an awesome tool for research and to corroborate other evidence! As a word of caution, everyone should keep in mind that there may be errors on the death certificates as the informants were human and therefore prone to make mistakes. For example, I ordered several of my direct-line ancestor death certificates a few years ago and noticed the name of the mother of my great-grandfather Charles Calvin Brown is listed as Araminta Dameron when in fact it is Araminta Martin...he married a Dameron. But all in all, they are still a great tool! I think what you mention too about being creative in your searches on the website is great advice. I have done the same in some of my searches. For instance, I noticed that Lewis Stark who is a brother to my great-grandfather William Howell Stark is shown as Lewis Stork. Interestingly though, if you look at the orginal death certificate, it does almost look like Stork instead of Stark (if one didn't know any better)! I think the greatest aspect of this new search engine is if you had an ancestor who died before 1910, but they had a sister or brother who lived after that date, which could potentially give you the names of the parents of that particular ancestor. I have the Martin surname on another line (through my Grandmother Mary Margaret Asbell Brown) and I was able to find a death certifcate for a Mary Martin in Montgomery County, MO, which listed her father as Patrick Martin. Mary looks to be a sister of my gg grandfather Thomas Michael Martin who was born in Ireland in 1830, migrated to Michigan in the 1830's with his parents, lived for brief period of time in Montgomery Co., MO before moving to Randolph Co., MO in the 1870's where he died in 1900. Until now, I didn't know the name of his father! I hope everyone else finds this as helpful as I have!

Do your Blakes include the Blake who was a Salisbury banker for many years?

I missed some of the early messages re old and overgrown cemeteries in Randolph Co. One of these is a small family cemetery on a farm along Hickory Road, near Roanoke, where some of my Blake ancestors are buried. Some of the tombstones have fallen over and others are covered with brambles, berries, etc., etc. I was there in 2004 and had to go to the WalMart in Moberly and buy large pruning shears in order to even get inside the large fenced area. I have corresponded with Larry Sumpter re this cemetery and it is on his list. I only hope that some of you that live in this area will be able to see that it is protected in the future. Clark Blake --

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I often see people refer to the "old Higbee Cemetery" when in fact there is only one......what was once the Hines family cemetery was purchased by the city of Higbee in l892/93 and became the city cemetery with, of course, additions in later decades, but it is still the only one.

Jane, I have found this to be true also . Data taken off documents are only as good as the source. Who is giving the information & who is copying & writing it down I find Bible records 1st. Headstone second. (I even have some headstones that are incorrect) All other documents are not to be taken as gospel. Even notarized & certified documents can be disappointing. I assume that we all have discovered that the worst are the census data & newspaper articles, that we so heavily rely upon as a source while doing research. " to be human is to error" James M. Bagby Indep MO In a message dated 4/23/2006 10:23:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: Nothing has been more confusing than the spelling of one of my ancestor's name, GIPSON or GIBSON. In Macon and Randolph Counties some of the sons of Robert GIPSON are spelled differently on the tombstones. His son, Robert GIBSON is buried at Concord Cemetery in Macon County and another son, Stephen GIPSON is buried at College Mound Cemetery. My own grandmother, Hattie GIPSON Day was killed in a car wreck in 1953 at Clifton Hill, Mo. Her death certificate has her maiden name spelled GIBSON. Our family never spelled it with a B. Whoever wrote the certificate spelled it that way. So even in the 1900's mistakes were being made. If a name is taken directly from a death certificate, it may be incorrect. Although our family spells GIPSON with a P, we may be incorrect. How confusing is researching names? Jane Wisdom > >

Nothing has been more confusing than the spelling of one of my ancestor's name, GIPSON or GIBSON. In Macon and Randolph Counties some of the sons of Robert GIPSON are spelled differently on the tombstones. His son, Robert GIBSON is buried at Concord Cemetery in Macon County and another son, Stephen GIPSON is buried at College Mound Cemetery. My own grandmother, Hattie GIPSON Day was killed in a car wreck in 1953 at Clifton Hill, Mo. Her death certificate has her maiden name spelled GIBSON. Our family never spelled it with a B. Whoever wrote the certificate spelled it that way. So even in the 1900's mistakes were being made. If a name is taken directly from a death certificate, it may be incorrect. Although our family spells GIPSON with a P, we may be incorrect. How confusing is researching names? Jane Wisdom > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

Thank you. Since I'm in Tennessee, I'll probably never get there. I've been reading about the Randolph county history, and it sounds like a beautiful place, and a nice place to raise a family. -----Original Message----- From: Clark Blake [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Roanoke tombstones Tomorrow I will scan in Tribble/Patterson/Cubbage/Bagby headstones for Roanoke Cemetery and send them on. Clark Blake -- ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

As of 1978 I still considered Roanoke a town. http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.31694&lon=-92.68861&datum=NAD27&s=50&size=l Perhaps it has gone downhill since then. Mike On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 4/22/2006 11:19:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >I have been told by Clark Blake that Clarence Cubbage is in the Roanoke >Cemetery. I think he told me he has photos of the grave markers. There are >several members of the Cubbage family in the Old Higbee Cemetery, but not >Clarence. Also, the Deaths in Randolph County database says Clarence is in >Roanoke Cemetery. > >By the way, I just looked at the Randolph County web page, which has a >wonderful section on cemeteries (I think that was done by Larry Sumpter) and >I don't see the Roanoke Cemetery mentioned. Since I know nothing about >Randolph County, can someone explain this - do it have two different names, >or is real small, or is it in an adjoining county? > >- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- -------------------------------------------------- > > >I felt I should mention the fact that Roanoke Cemetery sets on County Line >The survey runs thru the Roanoke Cemetery. Only the nothern part is in Randolph > CO. 99% is in Howard CO. >The southern road T9 (or 129) & rt 3 is sometimes mistaken as county line. >It is the same with the way the town of Roanoke was situated. I think their >School was in Randolph. CO. Most of the, now gone business, were really in >Howard CO. >Roanoke is no longer considered a town. They do a very good job maintaining >the pre Civil War. Roanoke Cemetery. > Their is a Roanoke Cemetery list available in Little Dixie Library that was >made by the local DAR Chapter ladies, that read the headstones. in 19?? > I have a copy, it's not 100% correct & has not been up dated. Has >separate listing for the Black people buried their. Located on west side. > People are still being buried their. > My first Bagby relative to be born in MO. & to die in MO. is buried their. >Wm T. Bagby who died in the year of 1846. .June the 3rd. > James M. Bagby Indep MO

Tomorrow I will scan in Tribble/Patterson/Cubbage/Bagby headstones for Roanoke Cemetery and send them on. Clark Blake --

Be thankful for the hard work of others. Most of us would not have the opportunity to have use of these tools if not for them. DAVID BROWN <[email protected]> wrote: I think all of the transcribers have done a great job! Some of the death certificates are nearly impossible to read! Linda Deppner wrote: Just FYI concerning the transcription -- we were transcribing from printed indexes, not the death certificates themselves. So some of the errors in spelling will be coming from the original indexing that has been done year by year since 1910, and some will undoubtedly have occurred during the transcription of the indexes. Linda ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected] ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

I think all of the transcribers have done a great job! Some of the death certificates are nearly impossible to read! Linda Deppner <[email protected]> wrote: Just FYI concerning the transcription -- we were transcribing from printed indexes, not the death certificates themselves. So some of the errors in spelling will be coming from the original indexing that has been done year by year since 1910, and some will undoubtedly have occurred during the transcription of the indexes. Linda ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

Hi Carole, I agree as I think the death certificates are an awesome tool for research and to corroborate other evidence! As a word of caution, everyone should keep in mind that there may be errors on the death certificates as the informants were human and therefore prone to make mistakes. For example, I ordered several of my direct-line ancestor death certificates a few years ago and noticed the name of the mother of my great-grandfather Charles Calvin Brown is listed as Araminta Dameron when in fact it is Araminta Martin...he married a Dameron. But all in all, they are still a great tool! I think what you mention too about being creative in your searches on the website is great advice. I have done the same in some of my searches. For instance, I noticed that Lewis Stark who is a brother to my great-grandfather William Howell Stark is shown as Lewis Stork. Interestingly though, if you look at the orginal death certificate, it does almost look like Stork instead of Stark (if one didn't know any better)! I think the greatest aspect of this new search engine is if you had an ancestor who died before 1910, but they had a sister or brother who lived after that date, which could potentially give you the names of the parents of that particular ancestor. I have the Martin surname on another line (through my Grandmother Mary Margaret Asbell Brown) and I was able to find a death certifcate for a Mary Martin in Montgomery County, MO, which listed her father as Patrick Martin. Mary looks to be a sister of my gg grandfather Thomas Michael Martin who was born in Ireland in 1830, migrated to Michigan in the 1830's with his parents, lived for brief period of time in Montgomery Co., MO before moving to Randolph Co., MO in the 1870's where he died in 1900. Until now, I didn't know the name of his father! I hope everyone else finds this as helpful as I have! David [email protected] wrote: David you beat me to posting this. I've been trolling thru the site and it's great. I love that I can view and print out some of the death certificates. Its a great research tool. Everyone should check it out. Don't forget that you might need to be inventive when looking for someone. I had to use 3 different spellings of "Lessly" to find everyone I was looking for. The transcribers did a great job but aren't always perfect as far as spelling some names correctly (no wonder given some of the handwriting) so keep that in mind. To find one person I left the first and last names blank and just selected Randolph County and the year of death for the search. Carole Brace In a message dated 4/22/2006 7:06:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I couldn't remember if this has already been posted on the Randolph List, but great progress is being made by the Missouri State Archives in digitally scanning death certificates from the State of Missouri. To date, they have indexed all death certificates from 1910 through 1955. Currently, death certificates are available to view on line from 1910 through 1922. You can search for your ancestors or collateral relatives on the screen, which is included in the attached link: http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ I hope this helps! David ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

If I remember correctly Vivian Tribble's maiden name was Ousley (or possibly Owsley or Oursley). And I honestly don't think she had any children. Tamara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Tribble headstones >I think Vivian and Robert Tribble had a daughter named Joanne. Does anyone >know Vivans's maiden name? Thanks, Karl P.S. to Carey - Comin' in >History Center this morning? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clark Blake" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:48 AM > Subject: [MoRandolph] Tribble headstones > > >>I just checked my photos of headstones from the Roanoke Cemetery. Dudley >>Tribble's dates are Jan.6, 1881-Aug. 4, 1924. Laura Gertrude's are Jan. >>20, 1884-Oct. 24, 1962. Strange that she is listed on a Tribble headstone >>in that she later married Clarence Cubbage. >> >> Next to Dudley and Laura is another Tribble headstone with Robert W. >> (Apr. 29, 1905-Sep. 30, 1971 and Vivian L. (June 21, 1912) It looks like >> she is still alive or else they haven't added her death date as of 2005. >> Robert is Robert William Tribble, son of Dudley and Laura (Gertie). >> >> Clark Blake >> -- >> >> >> ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Questions for the List Administrator? >> Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >> >> > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

David you beat me to posting this. I've been trolling thru the site and it's great. I love that I can view and print out some of the death certificates. Its a great research tool. Everyone should check it out. Don't forget that you might need to be inventive when looking for someone. I had to use 3 different spellings of "Lessly" to find everyone I was looking for. The transcribers did a great job but aren't always perfect as far as spelling some names correctly (no wonder given some of the handwriting) so keep that in mind. To find one person I left the first and last names blank and just selected Randolph County and the year of death for the search. Carole Brace In a message dated 4/22/2006 7:06:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I couldn't remember if this has already been posted on the Randolph List, but great progress is being made by the Missouri State Archives in digitally scanning death certificates from the State of Missouri. To date, they have indexed all death certificates from 1910 through 1955. Currently, death certificates are available to view on line from 1910 through 1922. You can search for your ancestors or collateral relatives on the screen, which is included in the attached link: http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ I hope this helps! David

Karen, Sorry I couldn't of been more help...very elusive family...just like one of my lines. LOL Give me a yell if I can help further! Renee' > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Chezum" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Ross Mathew TAYLOR > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:28:32 -0500 > > > Renee, > > I really appreciate all the help that you have given me on this family. > Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Renee Walker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:24 AM > Subject: [MoRandolph] Ross Mathew TAYLOR > > > Karen... > > This is all I could locate on William and/or Sarah MOORE TAYLOR with son > Ross Mathew TAYLOR. > > 1900 United States Federal Census Record about Ross Taylor > 1900 United States Federal Census Record about William P Taylor > Name: William P Taylor > Home in 1900: Narrows, Macon, Missouri > Age: 65 > Estimated birth year: abt 1835 > Birthplace: Kentucky > Race: White > Relationship to head-of-house: Head > > > Name: Ross Taylor > Home in 1900: Narrows, Macon, Missouri > Age: 14 > Estimated birth year: abt 1886 > Birthplace: Missouri > Race: White > Relationship to head-of-house: Son > Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Narrows, Macon, Missouri; Roll: T623 > 873; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 83. > Ancestry.com 19/25 > 20th July 1900 by E W Hutchinson > Sheet 10A > Supervisors District 142 > Enumeration District 83 > Lines 12-15 > Dwelling 200 > Family 200 > TAYLOR, William P, Head, W, M, May 1835, 65, Widowed, KY, KY, IN, Farmer, 0 > months unemployed, Can read/write, Speaks English, Owns, Farm, Free, > Schedule 182 > TAYLOR, Ross, Son, W, M, May 1886, 14, Single, MO, KY, KY, Farm Laborer, 0 > months unemployed, Can read/write, Speaks English > TAYLOR, Birtha, Daughter, W, F, Oct 1889, 10, Single, At school 8 months, > Can read/write, Speaks English > TAYLOR, Ruby E, Daughter, W, F, Aug 1896, 3, Single, Can not read/write, > Speaks English > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow > Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp > ?SRC=lycos10 > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10

Just FYI concerning the transcription -- we were transcribing from printed indexes, not the death certificates themselves. So some of the errors in spelling will be coming from the original indexing that has been done year by year since 1910, and some will undoubtedly have occurred during the transcription of the indexes. Linda

Renee, I really appreciate all the help that you have given me on this family. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Walker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: [MoRandolph] Ross Mathew TAYLOR Karen... This is all I could locate on William and/or Sarah MOORE TAYLOR with son Ross Mathew TAYLOR. 1900 United States Federal Census Record about Ross Taylor 1900 United States Federal Census Record about William P Taylor Name: William P Taylor Home in 1900: Narrows, Macon, Missouri Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Birthplace: Kentucky Race: White Relationship to head-of-house: Head Name: Ross Taylor Home in 1900: Narrows, Macon, Missouri Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Birthplace: Missouri Race: White Relationship to head-of-house: Son Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Narrows, Macon, Missouri; Roll: T623 873; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 83. Ancestry.com 19/25 20th July 1900 by E W Hutchinson Sheet 10A Supervisors District 142 Enumeration District 83 Lines 12-15 Dwelling 200 Family 200 TAYLOR, William P, Head, W, M, May 1835, 65, Widowed, KY, KY, IN, Farmer, 0 months unemployed, Can read/write, Speaks English, Owns, Farm, Free, Schedule 182 TAYLOR, Ross, Son, W, M, May 1886, 14, Single, MO, KY, KY, Farm Laborer, 0 months unemployed, Can read/write, Speaks English TAYLOR, Birtha, Daughter, W, F, Oct 1889, 10, Single, At school 8 months, Can read/write, Speaks English TAYLOR, Ruby E, Daughter, W, F, Aug 1896, 3, Single, Can not read/write, Speaks English -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp ?SRC=lycos10 ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

I couldn't remember if this has already been posted on the Randolph List, but great progress is being made by the Missouri State Archives in digitally scanning death certificates from the State of Missouri. To date, they have indexed all death certificates from 1910 through 1955. Currently, death certificates are available to view on line from 1910 through 1922. You can search for your ancestors or collateral relatives on the screen, which is included in the attached link: http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ I hope this helps! David

Clark: If you have any headstone photos of Clarence or his wife, etc., could you scan and email to me? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Clark Blake [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Tribble headstones I just checked my photos of headstones from the Roanoke Cemetery. Dudley Tribble's dates are Jan.6, 1881-Aug. 4, 1924. Laura Gertrude's are Jan. 20, 1884-Oct. 24, 1962. Strange that she is listed on a Tribble headstone in that she later married Clarence Cubbage. Next to Dudley and Laura is another Tribble headstone with Robert W. (Apr. 29, 1905-Sep. 30, 1971 and Vivian L. (June 21, 1912) It looks like she is still alive or else they haven't added her death date as of 2005. Robert is Robert William Tribble, son of Dudley and Laura (Gertie). Clark Blake -- ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]