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    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages
    2. Would you mind terribly to see if you can find a Nancy Angeline Turner and Jesse Walker Steely, married in 1845. So far I haven't found them and I've always thought there were married in Randolph Co. after coming from KY. Thanks!!! Nadine Mordt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Gibbons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:21 AM Subject: RE: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages > I have the Randolph County Clerk's marriage index on microfilm at the Family > History Center. I will be there next Wednesday and can look for you. This > is the INDEX only, but it may help. Let me know the names. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages > > Greetings, > > For several years on the Randolph County Geneaology and HIstory Page, there > was a rough transcription of Marriage records in Randolph County. I wanted > to verify I had really seen my great-grandparents listed there (from the > 1870's) and cannot find it any longer. I believe the records were arranged > by decade as I had found several of my great-grandmother's sisters listed on > other pages and wanted to look at these again. Now the only thing I can > find is a link to Ancestry.com's marriage records for Randolph County, > 1829-1859. > > This all came up because I was looking at the Missouri Death Certificate > database and discovered a conundrum that I'm wondering if what had been > passed to me many years ago by my mother was incorrect, since I think it > unlikely there were two Thomas Butterly's living in Moberly in the 1880's > that were both from Ireland and both had sons of the same first name on the > same day. I was hoping I might possibly find additional information on the > pages above. > > Just curious to know if this was really there (or if I have my webpages > confused) and if so is there any plan to bring these pages back or link to > something similar. > > Thanks, > > Jane DeBellis > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

    04/27/2006 03:29:25
    1. RE: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages
    2. Carolyn Gibbons
    3. I have the Randolph County Clerk's marriage index on microfilm at the Family History Center. I will be there next Wednesday and can look for you. This is the INDEX only, but it may help. Let me know the names. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Jane Debellis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages Greetings, For several years on the Randolph County Geneaology and HIstory Page, there was a rough transcription of Marriage records in Randolph County. I wanted to verify I had really seen my great-grandparents listed there (from the 1870's) and cannot find it any longer. I believe the records were arranged by decade as I had found several of my great-grandmother's sisters listed on other pages and wanted to look at these again. Now the only thing I can find is a link to Ancestry.com's marriage records for Randolph County, 1829-1859. This all came up because I was looking at the Missouri Death Certificate database and discovered a conundrum that I'm wondering if what had been passed to me many years ago by my mother was incorrect, since I think it unlikely there were two Thomas Butterly's living in Moberly in the 1880's that were both from Ireland and both had sons of the same first name on the same day. I was hoping I might possibly find additional information on the pages above. Just curious to know if this was really there (or if I have my webpages confused) and if so is there any plan to bring these pages back or link to something similar. Thanks, Jane DeBellis ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

    04/26/2006 11:21:20
    1. RE: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages
    2. Carey Bankhead
    3. Does anyone know if Carroll, Chariton, Saline, and Livingston counties have their marriages on the net?

    04/26/2006 10:29:48
    1. Randolph County Marriages
    2. Jane Debellis
    3. Greetings, For several years on the Randolph County Geneaology and HIstory Page, there was a rough transcription of Marriage records in Randolph County. I wanted to verify I had really seen my great-grandparents listed there (from the 1870's) and cannot find it any longer. I believe the records were arranged by decade as I had found several of my great-grandmother's sisters listed on other pages and wanted to look at these again. Now the only thing I can find is a link to Ancestry.com's marriage records for Randolph County, 1829-1859. This all came up because I was looking at the Missouri Death Certificate database and discovered a conundrum that I'm wondering if what had been passed to me many years ago by my mother was incorrect, since I think it unlikely there were two Thomas Butterly's living in Moberly in the 1880's that were both from Ireland and both had sons of the same first name on the same day. I was hoping I might possibly find additional information on the pages above. Just curious to know if this was really there (or if I have my webpages confused) and if so is there any plan to bring these pages back or link to something similar. Thanks, Jane DeBellis

    04/26/2006 03:53:05
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Randolph County Marriages
    2. DAVID BROWN
    3. Hi Jane, Randolph County Roots has marriage listings (three different listings...1829-1859; 1860-1870; and 1871-1880). The link is included on the Randolph County Rootsweb site, but here it is as well: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randolphroots/ I'm not exactly sure what type of discrepancy you found, but wouldn't be too alarmed. I have encountered death certificates where the informant or reporting person gave incorrect information (best example, which I mentioned previously, is when my great-grandfather Charles C. Brown died and the informant who was his son-in-law gave the maiden name of C.C. Brown's mother as Dameron when, in fact, it was Martin --- it was C.C. Brown's wife who was a Dameron). Hope this helps! David Jane Debellis <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings, For several years on the Randolph County Geneaology and HIstory Page, there was a rough transcription of Marriage records in Randolph County. I wanted to verify I had really seen my great-grandparents listed there (from the 1870's) and cannot find it any longer. I believe the records were arranged by decade as I had found several of my great-grandmother's sisters listed on other pages and wanted to look at these again. Now the only thing I can find is a link to Ancestry.com's marriage records for Randolph County, 1829-1859. This all came up because I was looking at the Missouri Death Certificate database and discovered a conundrum that I'm wondering if what had been passed to me many years ago by my mother was incorrect, since I think it unlikely there were two Thomas Butterly's living in Moberly in the 1880's that were both from Ireland and both had sons of the same first name on the same day. I was hoping I might possibly find additional information on the pages above. Just curious to know if this was really there (or if I have my webpages confused) and if so is there any plan to bring these pages back or link to something similar. Thanks, Jane DeBellis ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

    04/26/2006 02:46:44
    1. RE: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates
    2. Carolyn Gibbons
    3. Did you search for all possible spellings? Remember, the index was typed from a typed index (which means two different people could have made errors). Are you sure they died in MO? Could either have been visiting another state when they died? If you give me the names and approximate death dates, I will see what I can find by playing with the indexes. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates I searched for my grandfather and also my father-in-law and found nothing! Nadine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Awonder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates > The Missouri Death Certificate site is great and can pull up many names. > However, if you send off for copies from Jefferson City be prepared to wait. > I received a postcard today telling me it would take at least 12 weeks for a > response from my request! > > Alice in Arizona > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

    04/26/2006 07:00:54
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates
    2. I searched for my grandfather and also my father-in-law and found nothing! Nadine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Awonder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates > The Missouri Death Certificate site is great and can pull up many names. > However, if you send off for copies from Jefferson City be prepared to wait. > I received a postcard today telling me it would take at least 12 weeks for a > response from my request! > > Alice in Arizona > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

    04/26/2006 04:02:41
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Blake Cemetery
    2. DAVID BROWN
    3. Hi Clark, Thanks for letting me know. I think I have a general idea of where this cemetery is located and will try to get over there the next time I'm in Randolph County. Nathaniel Rice actually died in 1853, but he was neighbors with the Alexander and Lynch families who also lived in the area. In 1829, my ggg grandfather James Alexander purchased 160 acres from Henry Williams -- the land was located in the northeast quarter of Section 34 in Township 53N and Range 16W. When James Alexander died in 1845, one-half of the land was give to daughter Elizabeth Serilda Alexander (who married Neptune Lynch on Nov. 13, 1845) while the other half was to be sold with proceeds divided equally among the other children including my gg grandfather John Alexander (who married Patsy Rice, daughter of Nathaniel Rice) as well as Sally Hubbard, Hugh Alexander, James Rice Alexander, Mary Goodman, and Samantha Lobban. The 80 acres of land given to the other six children was sold to William Rice (son of Nathaniel) in the late 1840's or early 1850's (need to look up this date, sorry). Clark, as you probably already know, Neptune Lynch's biography from Montana mentions that he was trained by a Dr. Blake who was a neighbor. I'm not sure if Rice Patterson would be connected...he could be. I originally thought the Pattersons could be connected more to the Alexanders, but doesn't look like it now based on your other message you sent to me that shows the Pattersons were not from Garrard County. Thanks again! David P.S. I think the name "Rice" was a popular given name too and was in honor of the 1700's Presbyterian Minister David Rice who actually founded (or helped establish) a college in Kentucky called, I think, Transylvania University. Clark Blake <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi Clark, > > Thanks for your message. Do you remember where this cemetery is >located in relation to Roanoke? Also, do you happen to remember if >there were any Rice family members buried there? I'm looking for >the burial location for Nathaniel Rice, whom I think was a neighbor >to your Blake ancestors in southwestern Randolph County. > > Thanks! > > David > Dear David: There are no Rice headstones in the Blake Cemetery. To get there, drive 1.6 miles north of Roanoke on Co. Rd. 2080 to intersection with Hickory Rd. Go left here for about 0.3 miles and park in front of gate on right hand side of road, near a shed. The cemetery is in a grove of trees about 200 yards north of gate. This was the old Henry Blake farm, now owned by Eddie Meissen. I don't see Nathaniel Rice's name on 1876 land ownership map for Randolph Co. He probably was just west of Henry's property in Howard Co. Rice Patterson, as you probably know, was another landowner near here and he was adm. of Henry Blake's estate. I wonder if he was named for a Rice relative? Clark Blake -- ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

    04/24/2006 01:34:43
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates
    2. Tom Waters
    3. This is so true. I think the Archives staff have even put a littler blurb on that site to point out that you should try many name spellings in your search.if not successful the first try. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID BROWN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates > Hi Carole, > > Don't worry as I wasn't offended by anything you wrote. I too > appreciate the efforts of the volunteers. But, I do believe the point > that both you and I attempted to make is that researchers should not > immediately give up on the Death Certificate database if they don't at > first find the specific names for which they are searching. This is, in > my opinion, a valid point to make that is in no way meant as an attack or > criticism of the volunteers or any person that at any time was involved > with the death certificates. > > David > > [email protected] wrote: > David - I just wanted to add that my original comments in no way were > meant > to be critical of the wonderful volunteers who have worked on this > project. My > goal was rather to encourage people not to be too rigid in their searches. > As you point out the original recorders of the information could make > mistakes > - plus sometimes their handwriting was sloppy - leaving the records > vulnerable > to misinterpretation years later. I am over the moon over this whole > project. It's helped me in my research by often confirming (or providing) > birthdates, death dates, birth & death locations, cemetery where deceased > was buried and > family relationships. As a bonus I often get the maiden names of the > mother > of the deceased. It is also so thrilling to have access to the actual > signatures of your ancestors on a document. > > Carole > > In a message dated 4/23/2006 12:51:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Hi Carole, > > I agree as I think the death certificates are an awesome tool for research > and to corroborate other evidence! As a word of caution, everyone should > keep in mind that there may be errors on the death certificates as the > informants > were human and therefore prone to make mistakes. For example, I ordered > several of my direct-line ancestor death certificates a few years ago and > noticed > the name of the mother of my great-grandfather Charles Calvin Brown is > listed > as Araminta Dameron when in fact it is Araminta Martin...he married a > Dameron. > But all in all, they are still a great tool! > > I think what you mention too about being creative in your searches on the > website is great advice. I have done the same in some of my searches. For > instance, I noticed that Lewis Stark who is a brother to my > great-grandfather > William Howell Stark is shown as Lewis Stork. Interestingly though, if you > look at the orginal death certificate, it does almost look like Stork > instead of > Stark (if one didn't know any better)! > > I think the greatest aspect of this new search engine is if you had an > ancestor who died before 1910, but they had a sister or brother who lived > after > that date, which could potentially give you the names of the parents of > that > particular ancestor. I have the Martin surname on another line (through my > Grandmother Mary Margaret Asbell Brown) and I was able to find a death > certifcate > for a Mary Martin in Montgomery County, MO, which listed her father as > Patrick Martin. Mary looks to be a sister of my gg grandfather Thomas > Michael > Martin who was born in Ireland in 1830, migrated to Michigan in the 1830's > with his > parents, lived for brief period of time in Montgomery Co., MO before > moving > to Randolph Co., MO in the 1870's where he died in 1900. Until now, I > didn't > know the name of his father! > > I hope everyone else finds this as helpful as I have! > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

    04/24/2006 11:53:48
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs
    2. Tom Waters
    3. My wife was a Miles. I have in my database that James is the son of John and Martha Robb Miles. Their children were Bettie Belle, married James LaFayette Warford, Annie Susie married Frank Mattox, Charles married Mattie Martin and James who married Bessie Daggs. John was the son of James Miles and Malinda Rudd Miles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecil Boyd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:21 AM Subject: [MoRandolph] James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs > Can anyone give me the names of the parents of James Miles, husband of > Bessie Daggs? (See her obituary below) I believe they were married about > 1907, but I have not been able to find a record of their marriage. > According to the information I have found the children were Ruby and > Hazel Miles. They are living with their maternal grandparents James and > Alice R. (Terrill) Daggs on the 1920 census. > I would appreciate any help you can give. > Ms. Cecil V. Boyd > > "The Higbee News" Friday, 6 Aug 1915 > MRS. JAMES MILES DEAD > One of the saddest deaths THE NEWS has ever been called upon to record > was that of Mrs. James Miles, which occurred at her home at 9:30 p.m. > Friday, July 30, 1915. > With her husband and two small children, she had spent the day with > neighborhood relatives and friends, and reached home about 7 o'clock, > joyous and happy over the pleasures of the day and in the bloom of > youthful vigor. Shortly after retiring she was seized with a violent fit > of coughing, which caused the rupture of a blood vessel in her brain, and > before medical aid could be summoned, she was beyond the reach of all > earthly help, death having resulted from cerebral hemorrhage. > Funeral services were held Sunday at the Christian church by the > pastor, Eld. W. St. Clair. the immense crowd which packed the edifice > spoke more highly than words of the high esteem in which she was held, and > of the deep sympathy felt for the bereaved ones. Interment was made in > the city cemetery. > Besides her husband and two little children, she is survived by her > parents, Mr. and Mrs. Jas. Daggs, all of whom have the heartfelt sympathy > of the entire community. > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > >

    04/24/2006 11:49:34
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] KY to MO
    2. Barbara A Milman
    3. Dear Ben, Wondering if this Thomas Burris family is related to the Charles Burruss (4G Grandfather) of Boone County? My 3G grandmother Elizabeth Burris married Lysander "Tandy" B. Robinson? Thanks. Barbara Byram Milman On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:07:09 -0800 (PST) Ben Hardin <[email protected]> writes: > Thanks David, for the reference to the book by Hazel > Atterbury Spraker > that discusses the Burris and Tribble families and > their connection with the > Boones. Thomas Burris and Frances Tandy were my 5th > g-grandparents. > A double thanks. Your post helped me spot a few > duplications in my database. > > -- Ben > > > --- DAVID BROWN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Donna, > > > ....Sarah Burris was born 1753 and married Andrew > Tribble -- the couple moved to KY in 1785. > Apparently, the Boone connection is through > descendants of this Andrew Tribble and Sarah Burris > couple.... > > David > > > > donna <[email protected]> wrote: > > My father-in-law 83 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] > > >

    04/24/2006 11:16:31
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates
    2. Awonder
    3. The Missouri Death Certificate site is great and can pull up many names. However, if you send off for copies from Jefferson City be prepared to wait. I received a postcard today telling me it would take at least 12 weeks for a response from my request! Alice in Arizona

    04/24/2006 10:57:36
    1. photos of Roanoke Cemetery headstones
    2. Clark Blake
    3. I tried to send all of you photos as an attachment but the listserver reminded me that this list will not accept attachments. So, if any of you are interested in seeing the Patterson, Tribble, Cubbage, and/or Bagby headstones, please email me ([email protected]) and include your email address. I will then send them to you. Clark Blake --

    04/24/2006 06:09:12
    1. Fw: [MoRandolph] James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs
    2. Cecil Boyd
    3. Carey, I 'believe' this James Miles is the brother of Charles Miles, and son of John Miles and Martha A. Robb, but I can not find any data to back up my supposition except that the name is the same and the estimated year of birth for both men is 1884. I show three daughters born to Charles and May/Mae. They are Charla M. (born about 1904), Clara Lucille (born about 1906), and Mary W. (born about 1909) Miles. I did not have married names for any of these women. Thank you for giving me this information. Do you know if there are any descendents that just might know if this James is the one that married Bessie Daggs? Thank you again for your help. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carey Bankhead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [MoRandolph] James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs > How does this family fit in with the Chas. Miles family? I knew of two > daughters of Chas., Mrs. Charla Mae Bartee of Yates and Mrs. Lucille Moore > of Higbee. > > > ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== > Questions for the List Administrator? > Send them to Leslie at [email protected] >

    04/24/2006 06:01:29
    1. Re: Fw: [MoRandolph] James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs
    2. Carey Bankhead
    3. When I knew Lucille Moore she was a widow, and I never heard of her having children. Charla Mae married Raymond Bartee of Yates, and they had an adopted daughter whose birth name was Marley/Morely, or something like that. I know the Elbert Stockton's of Renick adopted a brother to this girl who at last report was living in Moberly, but I don't know her married name.

    04/24/2006 05:41:25
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Blake Cemetery
    2. Clark Blake
    3. >Hi Clark, > > Thanks for your message. Do you remember where this cemetery is >located in relation to Roanoke? Also, do you happen to remember if >there were any Rice family members buried there? I'm looking for >the burial location for Nathaniel Rice, whom I think was a neighbor >to your Blake ancestors in southwestern Randolph County. > > Thanks! > > David > Dear David: There are no Rice headstones in the Blake Cemetery. To get there, drive 1.6 miles north of Roanoke on Co. Rd. 2080 to intersection with Hickory Rd. Go left here for about 0.3 miles and park in front of gate on right hand side of road, near a shed. The cemetery is in a grove of trees about 200 yards north of gate. This was the old Henry Blake farm, now owned by Eddie Meissen. I don't see Nathaniel Rice's name on 1876 land ownership map for Randolph Co. He probably was just west of Henry's property in Howard Co. Rice Patterson, as you probably know, was another landowner near here and he was adm. of Henry Blake's estate. I wonder if he was named for a Rice relative? Clark Blake --

    04/24/2006 05:31:33
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs
    2. Carey Bankhead
    3. How does this family fit in with the Chas. Miles family? I knew of two daughters of Chas., Mrs. Charla Mae Bartee of Yates and Mrs. Lucille Moore of Higbee.

    04/23/2006 11:07:47
    1. James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs
    2. Cecil Boyd
    3. Can anyone give me the names of the parents of James Miles, husband of Bessie Daggs? (See her obituary below) I believe they were married about 1907, but I have not been able to find a record of their marriage. According to the information I have found the children were Ruby and Hazel Miles. They are living with their maternal grandparents James and Alice R. (Terrill) Daggs on the 1920 census. I would appreciate any help you can give. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd "The Higbee News" Friday, 6 Aug 1915 MRS. JAMES MILES DEAD One of the saddest deaths THE NEWS has ever been called upon to record was that of Mrs. James Miles, which occurred at her home at 9:30 p.m. Friday, July 30, 1915. With her husband and two small children, she had spent the day with neighborhood relatives and friends, and reached home about 7 o'clock, joyous and happy over the pleasures of the day and in the bloom of youthful vigor. Shortly after retiring she was seized with a violent fit of coughing, which caused the rupture of a blood vessel in her brain, and before medical aid could be summoned, she was beyond the reach of all earthly help, death having resulted from cerebral hemorrhage. Funeral services were held Sunday at the Christian church by the pastor, Eld. W. St. Clair. the immense crowd which packed the edifice spoke more highly than words of the high esteem in which she was held, and of the deep sympathy felt for the bereaved ones. Interment was made in the city cemetery. Besides her husband and two little children, she is survived by her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Jas. Daggs, all of whom have the heartfelt sympathy of the entire community.

    04/23/2006 05:21:03
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Blake Cemetery
    2. DAVID BROWN
    3. Hi Clark, Thanks for your message. Do you remember where this cemetery is located in relation to Roanoke? Also, do you happen to remember if there were any Rice family members buried there? I'm looking for the burial location for Nathaniel Rice, whom I think was a neighbor to your Blake ancestors in southwestern Randolph County. Thanks! David Clark Blake <[email protected]> wrote: I missed some of the early messages re old and overgrown cemeteries in Randolph Co. One of these is a small family cemetery on a farm along Hickory Road, near Roanoke, where some of my Blake ancestors are buried. Some of the tombstones have fallen over and others are covered with brambles, berries, etc., etc. I was there in 2004 and had to go to the WalMart in Moberly and buy large pruning shears in order to even get inside the large fenced area. I have corresponded with Larry Sumpter re this cemetery and it is on his list. I only hope that some of you that live in this area will be able to see that it is protected in the future. Clark Blake -- ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

    04/23/2006 03:44:00
    1. Re: [MoRandolph] Missouri Death Certificates
    2. DAVID BROWN
    3. Hi Carole, Don't worry as I wasn't offended by anything you wrote. I too appreciate the efforts of the volunteers. But, I do believe the point that both you and I attempted to make is that researchers should not immediately give up on the Death Certificate database if they don't at first find the specific names for which they are searching. This is, in my opinion, a valid point to make that is in no way meant as an attack or criticism of the volunteers or any person that at any time was involved with the death certificates. David [email protected] wrote: David - I just wanted to add that my original comments in no way were meant to be critical of the wonderful volunteers who have worked on this project. My goal was rather to encourage people not to be too rigid in their searches. As you point out the original recorders of the information could make mistakes - plus sometimes their handwriting was sloppy - leaving the records vulnerable to misinterpretation years later. I am over the moon over this whole project. It's helped me in my research by often confirming (or providing) birthdates, death dates, birth & death locations, cemetery where deceased was buried and family relationships. As a bonus I often get the maiden names of the mother of the deceased. It is also so thrilling to have access to the actual signatures of your ancestors on a document. Carole In a message dated 4/23/2006 12:51:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Carole, I agree as I think the death certificates are an awesome tool for research and to corroborate other evidence! As a word of caution, everyone should keep in mind that there may be errors on the death certificates as the informants were human and therefore prone to make mistakes. For example, I ordered several of my direct-line ancestor death certificates a few years ago and noticed the name of the mother of my great-grandfather Charles Calvin Brown is listed as Araminta Dameron when in fact it is Araminta Martin...he married a Dameron. But all in all, they are still a great tool! I think what you mention too about being creative in your searches on the website is great advice. I have done the same in some of my searches. For instance, I noticed that Lewis Stark who is a brother to my great-grandfather William Howell Stark is shown as Lewis Stork. Interestingly though, if you look at the orginal death certificate, it does almost look like Stork instead of Stark (if one didn't know any better)! I think the greatest aspect of this new search engine is if you had an ancestor who died before 1910, but they had a sister or brother who lived after that date, which could potentially give you the names of the parents of that particular ancestor. I have the Martin surname on another line (through my Grandmother Mary Margaret Asbell Brown) and I was able to find a death certifcate for a Mary Martin in Montgomery County, MO, which listed her father as Patrick Martin. Mary looks to be a sister of my gg grandfather Thomas Michael Martin who was born in Ireland in 1830, migrated to Michigan in the 1830's with his parents, lived for brief period of time in Montgomery Co., MO before moving to Randolph Co., MO in the 1870's where he died in 1900. Until now, I didn't know the name of his father! I hope everyone else finds this as helpful as I have! ==== MORANDOL Mailing List ==== Questions for the List Administrator? Send them to Leslie at [email protected]

    04/23/2006 03:41:50