This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WRINKLE, HUFF Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UNB.2ACI/241.573.1.2 Message Board Post: I'll reply to each of your questions. <<I am one confused dog. George Rinkle Sr. (Wrinkle) born 1756 VA died Knox Co. Tennessee who's father was John Jacob Wrinkle (rinkle) born in Germany 1730 Died in Tennessee,>> Well, so far, no good. You seem to be just scooping up, with respect to the George Wrinkle Sr. info, what is posted without doing any actual research to determine whether Santa Claus really existed (lots of people claim he did). The tax records of Knox Co. TN suggest that George Wrinkle (not Rinkle) Sr. of Knox Co. was born no later than 1754. There is no record of him anywhere with the name spelled Rinkle -- though some of his descendant generations will occasionally use that spelling. There is nothing that shows where he was born, and the idea of a link to a father is just pure fabrication. << so how is the below possible "He is s/o William Wrinkle and Emily Huff, gs of Silas Wrinkle and wife Elizabeth, ggs of Henry H. Wrinkle, and gggs of George Wrinkle Sr. (b. by 1754) of Knox Co. TN" William Wrinkle was born to Jacob Newman Wrinkle Can you help clear this up?>> I can. Charles Edward Wrinkle appears in the 1880 Laclede Co. MO census of his parents William and Emily Wrinkle. The Laclede marriage records reveal that Emily was a Huff. William and Emily (Huff) Wrinkle's 1870 census is in Pulaski Co. MO. William Wrinkle (b. ca 1844 - 1846) previously appeared in the 1850 and 1860 Pulaski Co. MO census records of his parents Silas and Elizabeth Wrinkle/Rinkle/Wrinkles. As for Silas Wrinkle, his father Henry H. Wrinkle left Knox Co. TN, apparently in 1829, and was in the Gallatin Co. IL census of 1830 (Rinkle) and Putnam Co. IN (Rinkle) census of 1840. Bureau of Land Management records show the connection between the Putnam Co. Wrinkle family and the Morgan Co. IN family. Silas (Rinkle) first appears under his own name in the 1840 census of Morgan Co. And as for Henry H. Wrinkle, the records of Knox Co. TN make a compelling case that he is a son of George Wrinkle Sr. Now, for the William David Wrinkle b. ca 1871 who was a son of Jacob "Jake" Newman F. Wrinkle, when you simply take a common name like William and assume that any man with a matching surname is the same man, you do end up confused. I have some 25 men named William Wrinkle in my database of Wrinkles. To differentiate between them, you have to determine when and where there were born and died, who they married, and with whom they interacted. Since William David Wrinkle, son of J. N. F. Wrinkle, had no son Charles Edward Wrinkle, I could not have been talking about him when I discussed the ancestry of Charles Edward Wrinkle -- and hence, the William Wrinkle I was discussing could not have been the William Wrinkle of your interest. There, take that! <grin> As you probably know, J. N. F. Wrinkle's parents, John Wrinkle and Sophrona "Sophia" Ann Wrinkle, were first cousins, both being grandchildren of George Wrinkle Sr. I have a similar situation, where my ancestor David Alexander "Alex" Rose (b. 17 Mar 1861 in Knox) has parents who were both great-grandchildren of George Wrinkle Sr. Does that help? --Carl