This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Randall Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Is the 1890 Veteran's Census on line somewhere?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Randall Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Mary, You are a wealth of information! We should visit more offline -- feel free to email me directly at lsauer1@hallmark.com. I live in Kansas City, but still have family in Maryville and Albany -- where do you live?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The message I just posted the (If we find it will post it. Sorry) should have been at the bottom of the message it was about the 1860 Census. We found the 1890 Veteran's Census !!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: 1890 Veteran's Census has William down Living in Mound City, Missouri ( Holt County ). It said Name of Regiment or Vessel : Iowa Living in Mound City, Missouri Discharged cannot give dates So we don't know when he inlisted or when he was discharged. But he was in Mound City in 1890 when the census was taken. If we find it will post it. Sorry We don't know for sure where he was in 1860. We think Missouri or Iowa. We may have it in a file some where but where?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Mary, I just posted a long reply to your message, and it went POOF! into cyberspace somewhere. Hopefully I'm not missing it and duplicating everything. Nodaway County, Lincoln Twp, 1880 Census: Levi MASSINGALE Self W Male W 40 TN Farmer VA TN Levira MASINGALE Dau M Female W 22 IA Keeping House TN IN Harrison MASINGALE Son S Male W 21 MO At Home TN IN Louis E. MASINGALE Son S Male W 20 MO At Home TN IN Wm. S. MASINGALE Son S Male W 15 MO At Home TN IN James A. MASINGALE Son S Male W 12 MO At Home TN IN Nancy J. MASINGALE Dau S Female W 10 MO At Home TN IN Mary E. MASINGALE Dau S Female W 8 MO At Home TN IN Iva E. MASINGALE Dau S Female W 6 MO At Home TN IN Squir E. MASINGALE Son S Male W 2 MO At Home TN IN The census indicates these are the children of Levi Massengale and they were living in Lincoln Township. Did Levi also go by the name William? I have much to send you on William Matthew Massengale, but having just tried and lost it all, I'll have to start over again. Briefly, you may prove me wrong, but I'm 99.9% certain that our William Matthew Massengale was the oldest son of Matthew III and I think I can present a convincing case. It is well established in our line that William Massengale and his son Harrison traveled to Missouri for an extended length of time. While they were there, they saw a cousin whom we believe was "Missouri" John Massengale in Kansas City. A photograph in our possession commemorates the event. Additionally, William and Harrison are missing from the Wayne and Clinton County 1880 census records. I do believe that the William Massengale whom Henry and Delilah Goodman identify as living in Dawson was, indeed, our William Matthew Massengale. If they were unaware that Billy had a different mother, it was because it was a well-kept family secret. What we know about him comes from years o! f digging. Until this year, we did not even know that he had been married before he came to Wayne County. Enough for now. I will put everything together (off line this time, so I don't lose it) and will try to post it again this evening.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Randall Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ask about the census for 1860 also.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Fay, I read your email. In the probate records for Mathew Jr. it said that Patsey Thompson was Mathew Jr. first wife and William is the 3th child on their list. It says that William was also living in Dawson, Missouri. If the Probate Records are true this was his family ( He married into our Randall family ). 6. ABIGAIL CARDELLA2 RANDALL (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1838 in Ohio, and died 1878 in Burlington Juction, Nodaway Co, MO. She married WILLIAM MASSENGALE September 27, 1855 in Marion Co, IA. He was born 1837 in Iowa, and died in Burlington Juction, Nodaway Co, MO. Children of ABIGAIL RANDALL and WILLIAM MASSENGALE are: i. LOUISA ANN3 MASSENGALE, b. 1856; d. 1890; m. MITCHELL HUSTEN BAILEY, 1880, Nodaway Co., Missouri; b. January 25, 1862, Elderodo, KS; d. October 29, 1885. ii. HARRISON MASSENGALE. iii. LEWIS MASSENGALE. iv. WILLIAM MASSENGALE. v. JAMES A MASSENGALE. vi. NANCY JANE MASSENGALE, b. March 19, 1869, Burlington Juction, Nodaway Co, MO; d. January 05, 1948, Burr, Otoe Co, NE; m. JOEL STARTING CARMICHAEL. vii. MARY MASSENGALE. viii. IVA E MASSENGALE. ix. SQUIRE E. MASSENGALE. ___________________________________________________ Have you looked at all that I posted on the Nodaway County, Missouri message board? I don't know how many I posted but there were 12 pages of attachments with Probate information, some census and marriages. If Mathew Massengale Jr. was married before marring Patsey Thompson I don't know why it wasn't in the probate records. ? Our William name was William Riley Massengale not William Mathew Massengale. Mathew Sr. was in Jefferson County, Iowa before 1840. Mathew Sr., Henry, and John are head of households. It is in 1 of the attachments I posted.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: William and Mary Jane Randall were in Lincoln Twp., Nodaway County, Missouri in 1880. I don't know where for sure in 1890 I will see my sister Carla today or tomorrow and I will ask her if she knows. I know they were in Nodaway or Holt but I am not sure which one. I had to format my computer and i don't have everything back on it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RANDALL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Mary, thank you so much for supplying the 1880 census infor on Wm and Mary Randall. I tried looking through the online census through Mid-Continent Library and figured they were not in Rockport in 1880. How did you find them in Nodaway County? Do you know the town they lived nearby? Or the township? This is pushing it, but would you have any info on where they were in 1890? I guess Missouri doesn't have any census info for that year.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.3 Message Board Post: Greetings Mary! You don't know what a MONUMENTAL service you have done for the descendants of the man we in Tennessee and Kentucky know as Matthew Massengale JR (you know as SR) and his son Matthew "Stump" Massengale (III - whom you know as JR). My husband is a direct descendant of Matthew SR > Matthew JR > Matthew "Stump" > William Matthew. You have quite literally provided the missing pieces of our puzzle, and there will be quite a lot to talk about in the weeks to come. I stayed up until 3 a.m. last night transcribing the probate records, which were sent to me courtesy of a mutual internet acquaintance. I do not have your branch of the family, and you do not have mine, but I think we're about to rectify that. I want to invite you and other descendants of Matthew Massengale of Decatur, Iowa, to take a look at my database on Rootsweb's WorldConnect Project: The Clarks of Otter Creek and Related Families. I have already incorporated the children of Matthew Massengale! JR (He is actually the 2nd of three generations of Matthew Massengales) and the children of Matthew "Stump" Massengale. It will give you a little more perspective on the larger family and ultimately should help you in your own research, as well. My db is at <http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gmcflc&id=I06735>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Wm. RANDALL Self M Male W 43 IN Farmer OH PA Mary J. RANDALL Wife M Female W 46 IA Keeping House IA TN James RANDALL Son W Male W 21 MO At Home IN IA Jacob RANDALL Son S Male W 14 MO At Home IN IA Silas RANDALL Son S Male W 10 MO At Home IN IA Milliard RANDALL Son S Male W 6 MO At Home IN IA L. RANDALL Dau S Female W 2 MO IN IA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Lincoln, Nodaway, Missouri Family History Library Film 1254706 NA Film Number T9-0706 Page Number 134D

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MASSENGILL / MASSENGALE / RANDLE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info on the 1870 census. I had not been able to find William and Mary except for the 1856 census and the 1900 census. Now I'll have to take some time to browse over the 1880 census to see if they were in Rockport then also. Interestingly enough, my Dad, Ray Yandell, ended up living in Rockport after he retired. I wonder if he knew his grandparents also lived there?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2.1 Message Board Post: No. Carla and I didn't go to the one in Maryville this year we went to a couple at Big Lake, in Holt, County, Missouri a 2 or 3 years ago. Yes we knew that William was married to Mary Jane Rowe we have the 1856 census we thought they put her name as Massengale because she was under her grandfather. Did you find the 1870 census for William and Mary Jane Randall? If you haven't you can find it in the Templeton Twp. Atchison County, Missouri Series M593 Roll 756 Page 471. They are listed Wm. Randle, Mary J., James H., Jacob, Silas. William's brothers Daniel, Milton, and Milford were all in Brownville, Nebraska ( Nemaha County) Series M 593 Roll 831 Pages 281 and 282 this was from Heritage Quest Online. Louisa wasn't living with any of her sons, Abigail or Amanda she could have been with Phebe we can't find Phebe and her husband Washington Massengale. But on the census after Daniel Randle family their is another family we are wondering if the Lavica is Louisa. If so she would have remarried after her husband John died. We don't know if it is her but we wonder. The last thing we know about Washington and Phebe is that they bought land in Scott City, Missouri ( Atchison County ) right across the bridge from Brownville, Nebraska. They boght the land Sept.1, 1865 and filed it Sept 16,1865 but they didn't finish paying for it. Sometime between then June 29, 1868 it looks like they left. We don't know where they went. But the land was sold and the money was paid to Pharis Millsap it was sold by the Sheriff. The sale was posted in the Acthison County Journal paper for 3 weeks before it was sold. What I don't understand is that Phebe's brother Milford got married Jan. 24, 1869 in North Star which is the same place as Scott City. So if the families were that close why didn't Washington and Phebe come back before the sale. Did they go to California too? Or did they just not care? In the probate records of Mathew Massengale Sr. it said that Washington died in 1871 or 1872.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MASSENGILL / MASSENGALE / RANDALL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello Cousin! I saw your post about the Massengale records. My gr grandfather, William Batchley Randall, was brother to Phebe and Abigail. As you probably know, he married Mary Jane Rowe, who lived in the home of Matthew Massengale. Here is the information I have about that... Mary Jane (Rowe) is listed on the 1856 Richland Township, Decator Co IA as Mary J Massengale, 16 years old, born in TN an living in the household of 73-year old widowed Matthew Massengale from NC who moved to IA about 1837. A 34-year old Martha Row and several other children with last name of Row were also in the household. Matthew was Martha’s father. The Massengale family lived next to the John Randall, Sr family in Decatur Co. Other researchers have listed Mary Jane as a “Rowe”. She apparently was daughter of Martha Row and her husband believed to be Peter Row. Later marriage and bible records show her name to be Mary J. Rowe. (Source: Tom Arnold) I've been trying to find more information about William B. Randall and his parents, along with Mary Jane Rowe and her parents, so this information really helps. Anything else you have would be appreciated. Do you go to the Randall Reunion in Maryville each summer? I missed the one this summer.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Massengale/Pheasant Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/1195 Message Board Post: Susan Jane was appointing her brother William power of attorney of her share of her father's ( Mathew Massengale Sr.) estate.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/1194 Message Board Post: When I put the probate records on the message board I was repling to this message ( MASSENGILL/MASSENGALE by: Tonya ) so you will have to go to it and read the replies. Sorry I didn't think! I should have posted a new message to start the attachments. There are 12 pages that I put on the message board. Part of it is from the probate records, some are marriage records and some census. But the probate records names 11 of his children and some of their children. Mathew died in 1861 or 1862 in Nodaway County, Missouri. The Probate Record are in the Probate Office in Maryville, Missouri ( Nodaway County, Missouri ). File Number is 29 Box Number is 70 Mathew Massengale Sr.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/1193 Message Board Post: I replied to the message MASSENGILL/MASSENGALE by: Tonya ___________________________________________________ XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX My sister Carla and I were looking for Mathew Massengale's will which he didn't have but we found his probate records. A couple of our Randall's (sisters) married into his family Phebe married his son Washington and Abigail married his grandson William. Go to the message from Tonya and then you can go down to the replies and find all that I posted. Sorry I should have posted a new message and went from there but I didn't think about it at the time. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.4 Message Board Post: Page 11 of Mathrew Massengale Sr.'s Probate Records about Mathew's son Jess Massengale and his children from the Probate Office in Maryville, Missouri ( Nodaway County, Missouri). Also I put some of the Massengale marriages from Nodaway County, Missouri courthouse on the both. File Number 29 Box 70

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.3 Message Board Post: Pages 9 and 10 of Mathrew Massengale Sr.'s Probate Records these pages are on Mathew Sr.'s children (John and his kids, Henry and his children and Martha and her children) from the Probate Office in Maryville, Missouri (Nodaway County, Missouri). File Number 29 Box 70

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BMB.2ACE/874.2 Message Board Post: Pages 6 and 7 of Mathrew Massengale Sr.'s Probate Records from the Probate Office in Maryville, Missouri (Nodaway County, Missouri). File Number 29 Box 70 This is about his son Mathew Jr. and his family.