Text of Marriage announcement in the Cambrian, 13th Dec 1850, is On the 3th inst.,by license, at the Baptist Temple, Newport, by the Rev. D. Edwards, Mr. Wm. Powell, Ty-draw, Glamorganshire, to Miss Morris, daughter of the late Rev. Thos. Morris, Newport. It seems likely that Rev Morris was also a Baptist. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Davies" <rondavi@club-internet.fr> To: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Cc: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 > Hi Jeff, > > I didn't know you were also active on the MON List - and as helpful here > as in GLAM ;-) > > The Cambrian announcement - even if there is no more detail in the > original notice - is helpful in telling my that the Rev. Thomas MORRIS had > already died before 13 Dec 1850. > The reference you found to a marriage in 1807 is also encouraging - in > following it up in FMP I have found the marriage recorded in Carmarthen > St.Peter; unfortunately no sign of a baptism of a child for them named > Elizabeth ... but it remains a distinct possibility! > > Many thanks > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> > To: "SHIRLEY PRICE-JONES" <s.pricejones@btopenworld.com>; > <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com>; "Ron Davies" <rondavi@club-internet.fr> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:07 PM > Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 > > >> Ron >> In the Cambrian. >> >> MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 13 December 1850 NEWPORT, WILLIAM POWELL, TY-DRAW, >> GLAMORGAN, TO MISS MORRIS, DTR. OF LATE REV.THOMAS MORRIS, NEWPORT. >> >> from www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian >> >> I'll see if there is any more detail in the original notice. The date is >> the date of the newspaper, so marriage will have been a few days earlier >> >> There is a marriage of Thomas Morris Esq in 1807 in Carmarthen to Maria >> Thornton in the Cambrian Index. May not be connected. >> >> There are various refs to another Rev. Thomas MORRIS probably unconnected >> DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 14 April 1854 REV.THOMAS MORRIS,AGED 74,AT >> ST.JAMES,DOVER. BROTHER OF SIR J.MORRIS,SKETTY PARK. >> >> Jeff >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SHIRLEY PRICE-JONES" <s.pricejones@btopenworld.com> >> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 >> >> >> Hi >> >> Can't help at the moment with Thomas Morris but there is an AberTrinant >> Farm in Llanwrda, Carmarthenshire. >> >> https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=abertrinant+llanwrda&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=abertrinant&hnear=0x486faa3519540df7:0xac22663efe554501,Llanwrda,+Carmarthenshire&cid=2483213475147433767 >> >> >> Shirley >> follow me at twitter >> http://twitter.com/shirlpj >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Ron Davies <rondavi@club-internet.fr> >> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2012, 8:10 >> Subject: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 >> >> Good-morning Monmouthshire List! >> >> I'm a Glam Lister who has just popped over the border to solicit your >> help. I have a Glamorgan MI for an Elisabeth POWELL, who died in 1852, >> which tells me that she was the 'daughter of the late Rev. Thomas MORRIS >> of Newport' . >> >> The 1851 census tells me that Elisabeth/Elizabeth was born in >> 'Abertrinant, Carmarthenshire' ca. 1810. The place does not appear to >> exist - perhaps it should be Abertrinant, Merionethshire, or maybe a >> large house or farm name in Carmarthenshire - still to be resolved??? I >> have found what I believe to be Elizabeth's marriage in Newport in 1850 >> and have just ordered the certificate, which may help me a little more on >> her/her father's origins. Meanwhile, I am wondering whether the name Rev. >> Thomas MORRIIS of Newport rings any bells with Mon Listers. From the >> scanty evidence I am assuming that he was probably born around 1780 +/- >> 10 years and that he was a Vicar or minister of some denomination in >> Newport for several years in the 1840's, I can see no sign of him in the >> 1851 census so I assume he had died by then. >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions. >> >> Best regards, >> Ron
Many thanks Jeff - yet another very helpful piece of input. Best regards Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> To: "Ron Davies" <rondavi@club-internet.fr> Cc: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 > Text of Marriage announcement in the Cambrian, 13th Dec 1850, is > > On the 3th inst.,by license, at the Baptist Temple, Newport, by the Rev. > D. Edwards, Mr. Wm. Powell, Ty-draw, Glamorganshire, to Miss Morris, > daughter of the late Rev. Thos. Morris, Newport. > > It seems likely that Rev Morris was also a Baptist. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Davies" <rondavi@club-internet.fr> > To: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> > Cc: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 > > >> Hi Jeff, >> >> I didn't know you were also active on the MON List - and as helpful here >> as in GLAM ;-) >> >> The Cambrian announcement - even if there is no more detail in the >> original notice - is helpful in telling my that the Rev. Thomas MORRIS >> had already died before 13 Dec 1850. >> The reference you found to a marriage in 1807 is also encouraging - in >> following it up in FMP I have found the marriage recorded in Carmarthen >> St.Peter; unfortunately no sign of a baptism of a child for them named >> Elizabeth ... but it remains a distinct possibility! >> >> Many thanks >> Ron >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> >> To: "SHIRLEY PRICE-JONES" <s.pricejones@btopenworld.com>; >> <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com>; "Ron Davies" <rondavi@club-internet.fr> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 >> >> >>> Ron >>> In the Cambrian. >>> >>> MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 13 December 1850 NEWPORT, WILLIAM POWELL, TY-DRAW, >>> GLAMORGAN, TO MISS MORRIS, DTR. OF LATE REV.THOMAS MORRIS, NEWPORT. >>> >>> from www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian >>> >>> I'll see if there is any more detail in the original notice. The date >>> is the date of the newspaper, so marriage will have been a few days >>> earlier >>> >>> There is a marriage of Thomas Morris Esq in 1807 in Carmarthen to Maria >>> Thornton in the Cambrian Index. May not be connected. >>> >>> There are various refs to another Rev. Thomas MORRIS probably >>> unconnected >>> DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 14 April 1854 REV.THOMAS MORRIS,AGED 74,AT >>> ST.JAMES,DOVER. BROTHER OF SIR J.MORRIS,SKETTY PARK. >>> >>> Jeff >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "SHIRLEY PRICE-JONES" <s.pricejones@btopenworld.com> >>> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Can't help at the moment with Thomas Morris but there is an AberTrinant >>> Farm in Llanwrda, Carmarthenshire. >>> >>> https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=abertrinant+llanwrda&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=abertrinant&hnear=0x486faa3519540df7:0xac22663efe554501,Llanwrda,+Carmarthenshire&cid=2483213475147433767 >>> >>> >>> Shirley >>> follow me at twitter >>> http://twitter.com/shirlpj >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Ron Davies <rondavi@club-internet.fr> >>> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2012, 8:10 >>> Subject: [MON] Rev. Thomas MORRIS, Newport ca.1850 >>> >>> Good-morning Monmouthshire List! >>> >>> I'm a Glam Lister who has just popped over the border to solicit your >>> help. I have a Glamorgan MI for an Elisabeth POWELL, who died in 1852, >>> which tells me that she was the 'daughter of the late Rev. Thomas MORRIS >>> of Newport' . >>> >>> The 1851 census tells me that Elisabeth/Elizabeth was born in >>> 'Abertrinant, Carmarthenshire' ca. 1810. The place does not appear to >>> exist - perhaps it should be Abertrinant, Merionethshire, or maybe a >>> large house or farm name in Carmarthenshire - still to be resolved??? I >>> have found what I believe to be Elizabeth's marriage in Newport in 1850 >>> and have just ordered the certificate, which may help me a little more >>> on her/her father's origins. Meanwhile, I am wondering whether the name >>> Rev. Thomas MORRIIS of Newport rings any bells with Mon Listers. From >>> the scanty evidence I am assuming that he was probably born around 1780 >>> +/- 10 years and that he was a Vicar or minister of some denomination in >>> Newport for several years in the 1840's, I can see no sign of him in the >>> 1851 census so I assume he had died by then. >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Ron > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/5034 - Release Date: 05/30/12 >