Hi Lilian, Some of the 1861 census records are missing and its probable that yours are amongst the missing. There is a list on the MonGenes list of all the missing census records in Monmouthshire. I've just had a look on it and it says that Trevethin have 7,372 1861 census records missing. The missing parish records volume numbers are 61V20-61V22. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilian Fowler" <lilian.fowler@ntlworld.com> > Hello everyone, I am once again trying to knock down my frustrating > brick > wall with regards to my 2 x gt. Grandparents Daniel Bassett and Catherine > Williams and would be most grateful for any help or suggestions. > Daniel was born in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire c 1819 and Catherine in > Breckonshire c1817 - Daniel's father was also Daniel and Catherine's > father > was David. They were married St. Cadoc's Church, Trevethin, Mon. > 21/112/1839 - I have no records relating to their mothers - > They were certainly still in Wales 1841 and 1851 census, along with their > children, however I have tried many times to find them on the 1861 census > but have had no luck at all . > I think that they were still in the same area in 1861, because in 1866 > their > daughter Mary who was then aged 19 or 20 had a child James (no father > given > on the birth certificate recorded in Abersychan, Trevethin, Pontypool) in > 1866 and is recorded on the 1871 census as their son instead of grandson > (he > died in 1878) because they do seem to be a very close knit family (their > eldest daughter Elizabeth had married in 1864) they all appear to have > moved together to Stoke on Trent area as they are all recorded on the > subsequent census records with the exception of Catherine who died in 1889 > and Daniel who did not die until 1895 and he is my other brick wall as I > can't find him on the 1891 census. > >