Hello Jan, Thank you for your reply, you are probably right about my family being on the missing census records, over 7000 is rather a lot, I will keep trying various ways though, Just in case they do turn up. And I will look at any of their relatives, at least the ones which I know about. I have had another thought,. As they were Ironworkers and carried on in those jobs when they moved to Stoke on Trent I wonder whether there would be any employment records of the local Iron and works in the Trevethin area. Grateful for any suggestions on that. Once again many thanks Lilian