Hello Walt, I know that last email was not addressed to me, but I had to stick my twopenneth in. Your fault for pressing my buttons. <grin>. You might be interested to know, or not, that I have a very little knowledge during my life, of two distinct King families. One in Tylorstown in my youth. That is in the Rhondda Fach. And one in Cwmparc in later years. Now, I have been told that the people from Cwmparc in the Rhondda Fawr are generally descended from Montgomeryshire ancestors. So your link with Machynlleth is interesting from that point of view. Also, I have living relatives in that very area where Owain Glyndwr had his parliement. This branch of my family came from Merionethshire originally, so be aware that Montgomeryshire might even lead you there eventually. Watch out though, because I have been into family history for 26 years, doubling up with every generation, so I have lots of different surnames that I have worked with. No Kings yet though, so you are safe for the present. Best regards, Maureen Lived in both Rhondda's.