Hi Walt, I would like to say, I knew how to pronounce it - but contain the wild cheering as I have no idea how to explain the few welsh sounds I can pronounce! And i sometimes sound and spit like a cat with a hairball trying to get the "ll" out... Sorry. We consider ourselves a Welsh family, despite mostly living in England. Although we lost the Welsh language before that when my great-great grandfather married his English wife - who banned it in the house as she couldn't understand it. And none of the immediate family knew that the THOMASes et al were Welsh speakers before then. They were rather shocked to find that out. Regards, Jo Joanne Thomas journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/journeymouse/ ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com