G'day David I saw your request about Phipps and Roynon a couple of days ago and replied about the Roynon name. Since I saw your posting we had an email from a friend who still lives in the same street as my wife did in Llwynypia, Rhondda, about 50 years ago. He mentioned one of his friends who used to live across the street from my wife's house. The friend's name was Phipps. Whether or not they originated in Somerset or Monmouthshire, I don't know but both my wife and I have ancestors from Somerset who came to Wales to work in the collieries that were booming at the turn of the 19th Century. Hope this helps Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Davies; Jones; Lewis; Prosser http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carl Jones Sent: Monday, 19 February 2007 11:47 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] TRELLECH Phipps and Phillips, plus Roynon David, as for the link about families meeting, Ive got a somerset Willcowes marring Morgans in Abertillery. Coal mining was dying in somerset and loads of them moved to south wales. carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "david lloyd" <scromlet@tiscali.co.uk> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:22 AM Subject: [MON] TRELLECH Phipps and Phillips, plus Roynon > > I have trying to trace the Phipps family in Trellech, my ancestor Sarah > bapt 1796 was the daughter of Joseph Phipps and Eleanor, and had an older > brother 1793 James and a younger brother 1799 Joseph. > > Sarah crossed to Somerset in 1820's to marry into the fascinating Roynon > family in Compton Martin. > > > I have these Q's, if anyone has any ideas at all I'd be very grateful: > > 1. I can't find many Phipps, but there seem to be lots of Phillips. Is > there a name crossover here maybe? > > 2.There may have been Roynon links into Monmouthshire already? > > 3. How did S Wales and N Somerset families mix? Was it connected to coal? > > 4. Anyone have any Phipps Monmouth roots? > > I'm not in Wales btw, the Phipps is my mother's Somerset side, my Lloyds > are all London since at laest 1780. > > Many thanks > > David Lloyd > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: > 13/02/2007 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks again Ray, not sure if you've seen my reply to your original response. Yes, the name Phipps, seems to occur (relatively) frequently in that SE corner of Wales, as indeed does Phillips. I'm only very recently onto this line, but the odd thing seems to be that my Trelleck-based Phipps seem to make a guest appearance for a single generation, or rather as a single family with parents and three children, then disappear despite the fact that two of the three children were male and may have themselves fathered Phipps in due course, and that I can account in my tree for the only daughter, Sarah. I have Griffees elsewhere in my tree where I can see within a single village comparing the 1841 and 1851 censuses that one family changed from being Griffee to Griffin (and then stayed that way later) quite possibly to avoid name confusion between individuals in the two very large families. Not sure if that might explain the Phipps - Phillips link though. Thanks again David

Certainly looks like Somerset according to this http://tinyurl.com/37xkcu Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Lewis I saw your request about Phipps and Roynon a couple of days ago and replied about the Roynon name. Since I saw your posting we had an email from a friend who still lives in the same street as my wife did in Llwynypia, Rhondda, about 50 years ago. He mentioned one of his friends who used to live across the street from my wife's house. The friend's name was Phipps. Whether or not they originated in Somerset or Monmouthshire, I don't know but both my wife and I have ancestors from Somerset who came to Wales to work in the collieries that were booming at the turn of the 19th Century.