Hello Jeff, Thanks for that, I see you have the same process of working things out that I have. On top of that, my females are famous for remarrying after being widowed, all except my gran who thought the whole idea was abominable. But she did not mind telling me about the ones she knew about, including her own mother. I only wish she knew more about those further back. Still, a step at a time. So thank you profusely. Just to lighten the whole thing though. I am smiling at Thomas Thomas, because I have another enigma concerning a William Williams who also died before I could pin him down. And that was in Merthyr Tydfil. I am sure they will be found when they are ready to be found. Regards, Maureen