I have for several years been researching John JONES born Trevethin circa 1851. I definitely have him 6th March 1870 when he married Harriet Ann HAYMAN in Llanvihangel Pontymoile, Monmouthshire. His age 20, Rank or Profession Roller, Residence at the time of marriage is Abersychan, Fathers name John JONES Rank or Profession, Baller. In 1871 Census John, Harriet and daughter Emma are resident in Baptist Chapel House, Trevethin. John's occupation is Bloomer. Born in Abersychan. Age 21. On 3 Apr 1881 he was Assistant Rowler (Iron) in 9 Jameson St, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire. Born in Wales. Age 30. In 1891 Census John was a Steel Worker in 146, Union Street, Middlesbrough. Born in Abersychan, Monmouthshire. Age 39. And On 31 Mar 1901 he was a Steel Roller in 190, Newport Road, Middlesbrough, Born in Monmouth. Trevethin. Age 48. Certificate of Entry of Death. John JONES died 25th May 1922 in Middlesbrough. Steel Roller. Age 70. I have trawled 1851 and 1861 Census returns over and over and found thousands of JONES' but have been unable to find John or his family. A week ago we received (from Australia) a suggested date of birth of 6th October 1851 for our John, ordered and received the Birth Certificate to find 6th October 1851. Born in British Works, Trevethin: John JONES son of John JONES Occupation Baller, and Rachel formerly JONES Armed with this information which looks very, very right, I am still unable to find any trace of John or his family in 1851 or 1861. Any ideas Please? Regards Ernie