Hi Listers, Make a visit in search of a ghost. Let me explain: I am making some worksheets for my students and wanted to do something on ghosts. I found a strange photograph which claims to have a ghostly airman on it. His name was given as Freddy JACKSON but no Freddy JACKSONs died in 1919 who were in the RAF. Only two men died in 1919 in the UK and were serving in the RAF and one was an Ivor John JACKSON, son of George and Melinda JACKSON of Abergavenny. I have found him on the 1901 Census but I wonder if anyone knows anymore about him. The photograph was taken at HMS Daedalus - actually Cranwell in Lincolnshire. It shows a group of mixed servicemen and women who were by then members of the RAF but yet to get standard uniforms. One man, looks like he had been a member of the Navy, has a strange ghostly face behind his head. Air Marshal GODDARD, who served at Cranwell, claimed this was the ghost of Freddy JACKSON who died two days before. Knowing the services, Freddy could be a nickname and only his surname may be exact. I would be happy with any details, even if in the negative, to find out if Ivor was Freddy or not. Freddy died by accident when he fell into the spinning propeller of an aircraft either in early or summer 1919. Ivor John died in March 1919 - details unknown. Can anyone help? Best wishes, Charles

I'm curious where you got the information that only two RAF men died in UK in 1919. (I'm not disputing, just wondering what your source is). Sorry I can't help in your quest. Rachel CT, USA Charles <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> wrote: Hi Listers, Make a visit in search of a ghost. Let me explain: I am making some worksheets for my students and wanted to do something on ghosts. I found a strange photograph which claims to have a ghostly airman on it. His name was given as Freddy JACKSON but no Freddy JACKSONs died in 1919 who were in the RAF. Only two men died in 1919 in the UK and were serving in the RAF and one was an Ivor John JACKSON, son of George and Melinda JACKSON of Abergavenny. I have found him on the 1901 Census but I wonder if anyone knows anymore about him. The photograph was taken at HMS Daedalus - actually Cranwell in Lincolnshire. It shows a group of mixed servicemen and women who were by then members of the RAF but yet to get standard uniforms. One man, looks like he had been a member of the Navy, has a strange ghostly face behind his head. Air Marshal GODDARD, who served at Cranwell, claimed this was the ghost of Freddy JACKSON who died two days before. Knowing the services, Freddy could be a nickname and only his surname may be exact. I would be happy with any details, even if in the negative, to find out if Ivor was Freddy or not. Freddy died by accident when he fell into the spinning propeller of an aircraft either in early or summer 1919. Ivor John died in March 1919 - details unknown. Can anyone help? Best wishes, Charles ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK Charles, following on your reasoning, I looked up the death index for Ivor J. Jackson, and find that it was recorded in his home town of Abergavenny, not at the base in Lincolnshire. [1st qtr 1919 Abergavenny folio 11a page 88, he was age 23] On the same index page there are 2 Fred Jacksons about the right age, no idea of course if they were in RAF or any other service, but just throwing it out there in case anyone can illuminate: [Jackson, Frederick, age 25, Derby, 7b, 904] [Jackson, Frederick A., age 33, S. Shields, 10a, 1502] There are no Fred Jackson deaths of the right age in 2nd Qtr 1919 index. Rachel CT, USA Charles <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> wrote: Hi Listers, Make a visit in search of a ghost. Let me explain: I am making some worksheets for my students and wanted to do something on ghosts. I found a strange photograph which claims to have a ghostly airman on it. His name was given as Freddy JACKSON but no Freddy JACKSONs died in 1919 who were in the RAF. Only two men died in 1919 in the UK and were serving in the RAF and one was an Ivor John JACKSON, son of George and Melinda JACKSON of Abergavenny. I have found him on the 1901 Census but I wonder if anyone knows anymore about him. The photograph was taken at HMS Daedalus - actually Cranwell in Lincolnshire. It shows a group of mixed servicemen and women who were by then members of the RAF but yet to get standard uniforms. One man, looks

Hello Charles, Perhaps if you get the death certificate for Ivor you can see if the cause of death matches Freddy. Best wishes, Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" I found a strange photograph which claims to have a > ghostly airman on it. His name was given as Freddy JACKSON but no Freddy > JACKSONs died in 1919 who were in the RAF. > > Only two men died in 1919 in the UK and were serving in the RAF and one > was > an Ivor John JACKSON> > I would be happy with any details, even if in the negative, to find out if > Ivor was Freddy or not. Freddy died by accident when he fell into the > spinning propeller of an aircraft either in early or summer 1919. Ivor > John > died in March 1919 - details unknown.

Hi Lynda and John, Lynda, thanks for your suggestion but it would a rather expensive way of finding out, especially if it turns out Ivor wasn't Freddy. I'm not in any way related to JACKSON ~ I'm just making a series of interesting worksheet for my students. I thought I would look into the mystery. I checked with an expert on the RAF and a ghosthunter in Lincolnshire but neither could add to what was already on the Net. There's actually little on the Net though numerous sites ~ all give more or less the same story and some are so obviously copied as to be laughable. (A good few copied the instruction to click on the picture to make it larger as if they hadn't really read what the information said.) John, yes, it is an interesting story. The actual material seems to to come from an Air Marshal Sir Victor Goddard but not until 1975. Another witness quoted was a 97 year old woman who served at Cranwell and remembered Freddy. Though an interesting story, I have enlarged the photograph to fill my computer screen and I would say the ghostly face is the face of the man in front of it. It is possible he didn't have his cap on and put it on during the process of the photograph being taken. Remember this was 1919 and there weren't any digital cameras then. Many of the features of both faces are very similar and I'm pretty sure it is just a double exposure. However, I leave my students to decide. Still it would be nice to get to the bottom of it. Best wishes, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Ahmad" <lynda@ahmad1.freeserve.co.uk> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Ivor John JACKSON > Hello Charles, > > Perhaps if you get the death certificate for Ivor you can see if the cause > of death matches Freddy. > > Best wishes, > Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Jones" <genes@genesrus.org> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Ivor John JACKSON > Hi Charles. > > Now thats what I call an interesting story, even if I can't help with any > answers. > > Hope you have some luck with this. > > John Jones

Hi Charles. Now thats what I call an interesting story, even if I can't help with any answers. Hope you have some luck with this. John Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:00 AM Subject: [MON] Ivor John JACKSON > Hi Listers, > Make a visit in search of a ghost. > > Let me explain: I am making some worksheets for my students and wanted to > do > something on ghosts. I found a strange photograph which claims to have a > ghostly airman on it. His name was given as Freddy JACKSON but no Freddy > JACKSONs died in 1919 who were in the RAF. > > Only two men died in 1919 in the UK and were serving in the RAF and one > was > an Ivor John JACKSON, son of George and Melinda JACKSON of Abergavenny. I > have found him on the 1901 Census but I wonder if anyone knows anymore > about > him. > > The photograph was taken at HMS Daedalus - actually Cranwell in > Lincolnshire. It shows a group of mixed servicemen and women who were by > then members of the RAF but yet to get standard uniforms. One man, looks > like he had been a member of the Navy, has a strange ghostly face behind > his > head. Air Marshal GODDARD, who served at Cranwell, claimed this was the > ghost of Freddy JACKSON who died two days before. Knowing the services, > Freddy could be a nickname and only his surname may be exact. > > I would be happy with any details, even if in the negative, to find out if > Ivor was Freddy or not. Freddy died by accident when he fell into the > spinning propeller of an aircraft either in early or summer 1919. Ivor > John > died in March 1919 - details unknown. > > Can anyone help? > > Best wishes, > Charles > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/985 - Release Date: 02/09/2007 > 16:32 > >