Wales has never been one unified country in the past. A collection of warlike tribes. No one Prince had power over all Wales. A pilgrimage to St David's was viewed with the same risk as one to the holy lands, the tribes were so warlike. King Edward one of the greatest Kings of England, the hammer of the Scots even he found it difficult to bring the Welsh to heel. The Welsh were more concerned with tribal and family feuds. ref: Llewellyn ap Gruffydd , always quarrelling and breaking oaths. Good reading "The Age of Chivaly" by Arthur Bryant. The word Welsh is derived from Latin for slave. www.batesplace.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MJen512444@aol.com Sent: 24 April 2007 05:14 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] Monmouthshire - England or Wales? I suppose that Henry Tudor becoming King of the British Isles might answer the last question. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - Release Date: 21/04/2007 11:56 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.7/771 - Release Date: 21/04/2007 11:56