Additional information on message sent yesterday and to answer questions asked by Ruth (on Powys list) and Gareth (on Hereford list). No ages were given for either the bride or the groom on the marriage certificate, just "full age". I have no doubt that the marriage certificate refers to the Henry Pitt MEREDITH I am researching. These parts match details known about Henry and his family--widowed, gentleman, residence was Cusop (Herefordshire) where his parents and brother were living, father's name and occupation fit, witness was his brother David (from Cusop). The marriage in January 1869 took place in Hay, Breconshire. I understand that it was in that time period within walking distance from Cusop (Herefordshire) and Clyro (Radnorshire) where others in the MEREDITH family were at this time. From the various records it appears Henry was born about 1819/1820 in Clodock, Herefordshire. 1825 he was baptized/christened with two other siblings at Clodock, Herefordshire. He likely was the eldest of the three as this order was supported later in wills of his PITT grandfather and PITT uncle. His just older brother David was born in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire about 1816. 1841 age 16 (ages round down on that census) with parents and some siblings at Clyro, Radnorshire 1851 age 34, on census as visitor with emigration agent in Liverpool, England 1851 age 32, on ship passenger list on arrival in United States 1860 age 40, on California census 1869 no age given when married Ann HAMER in Hay, Breconshire 1871 cannot find Henry Pitt MEREDITH on that census 1881 age 60, (is indexed as 40) on census at Abergavenny, Monmouthshire 1891 age 72, on census at Abergavenny, Monmouthshire 1894 age 75, on death certificate, died at Abergavenny, Monmouthshire IF the Ann MEREDITH, age 59, that died in December 1869 quarter in Presteigne district is indeed Ann (HAMER) MEREDITH, she would have been born about 1810, which would make her 9 or 10 years older than Henry. No other possibilities are shown on the free BMD. The 1869 marriage certificate says Ann was a spinster, which leads me to believe she was not widowed and had not been married before. Might she have been someone who helped care for the children (details on them in another message) when Henry returned from America? Geographically, does Presteigne sound like a possibility? Ruth Ann in the USA