On 13 Apr 2007, at 22:22, Jandaleva@aol.com wrote: > Please can someone tell me where Colliery Row is. On the 1881 > census the > family I am looking at is living in Colliery Row, Lower Machen and > the > References are:- RG11 5274/63 page 8. I know there is a village > of Lower Machen > and I am also aware that there is/was a census location or > administrative area > described as Machen Lower. Can anyone pinpoint Colliery Row for me > please. after some hours the best I can do is Colliers Row by Machen Tin Works which is in Upper Machen yours could possibly be huts close to the quarry and Copper Row which were already gone by 1885 County: MONMOUTHSHIRE Date :1885 Grid Ref: 320657,188864 nicely centered using http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ now called Riverside Terrace http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=NP10 +8GU&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=51.594019,-3.147427&spn=0.005159,0.0091 62&t=h&iwloc=addr that is the first time I have used google maps in this way if I am wrong try and find out what The Oaks and Oakfield gardens were a 100 years ago back Colliers Row and Copper Row should be near there http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=NP10 +8GU&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=51.593422,-3.143506&spn=0.005159,0.0091 62&t=h Tudor Gardens are Long Row in 1885 County: MONMOUTHSHIRE Date :1885 Grid Ref: 321131,188864 multimap and google maps use the same latitude and longditude grid system but in reverse order in their urls http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi? client=public&GridE=-3.14422&GridN=51.59333&lon=-3.14422&lat=51.59333&se arch_result=Tudor%20Gardens%2C%20MACHEN%2C% 20CF83&GridN=51.59333&GridE=-3.14422&keepicon=true&db=GB&lang=&place=Tud or%20Gardens%2C%20MACHEN%2C% 20CF83&pc=&advanced=true&client=public&addr2=Tudor% 20Gardens&overviewmap=&addr3=machen&scale=5000 simplified Location: Tudor Gardens, Machen, CF83 United Kingdom Grid ref: ST208888 Postcode district: CF83 8xx (map centre) X: 320800m Y: 188900m Lat: 51:35:36N (51.5933) Lon: 3:08:39W (-3.1442) Web Address: www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi? lat=51.5933&lon=-3.1442&scale=5000&icon=x the next post will show the method Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG