Have a GWATKIN family I am researching in Monmouthshire. Interested in how often I might expect to find the surname as WATKIN or WATKINS. Thomas GWATKIN may be the son of Benjamin GWATKIN and Paulina. Would like to confirm this as there are at least two individuals of the same name in the area who are about the same age. 1. There is an IGI entry for a Thomas GWATKIN christened 18 March 1838 Llangattock Lingoed, Monmouthshire, England. Is this the same individual as shown on later items? 2. Have not yet looked for him on the 1841, 1851, or 1861 census as I no longer have access to those census years. Can you find him on those? 3. I have a Thomas GWATKIN that married an Ann SAUNDERS about 1859 in Abergavenny area of Monmouthshire (from birth certificate of one of their children). Still need to order the marriage certificate to confirm his parents and find name of her father. 4. Do have Thomas GWATKIN, his wife Ann, and their children on the 1871 (have image), 1881 (have only index), and 1891 census (have image). a. The 1871 image has family on Tudor Street in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, with him as Thomas GWATKIN, age hard to read, occupation carpenter, (birthplace Llangattock in Monmouthshire). RG 10/5309, folio 85, page 11, household 50. b. On the 1881 index he is Thomas G. WATKINS, age 42, occupation carpenter joiner, at 16 Tudor Street, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, (birthplace Llangattock Lingoed, Monmouthshire). Index gives RG 11 Piece 5235, folio 13, page 20. Does it look like surname is GWATKIN on the actual image? c. The 1891 image has family at 23 Monk Street in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, with him as Thomas GWATKIN, age 52, occupation carpenter, (birthplace Abergavenny, Monmouthshire). RG 12/4347, folio 129, page 13, household 66. d. Is Llangattock Lingoed near enough to Abergavenny that an individual would use the terms interchangeably as a birthplace? 5. Notes about deaths of this couple: a. Believe Thomas GWATKIN died in 1893 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire. b. Believe Ann SAUNDERS GWATKIN died in 1892 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire. c. Would like to have a few more details of their early years before ordering their death certificates, to be sure I have the right couple. 6. Children of Thomas GWATKIN and Ann SAUNDERS known at this time include James Charles GWATKIN (1861), William GWATKIN (about 1864), Alfred GWATKIN (1865), Pauline GWATKIN (about 1867), Thomas GWATKIN (1868), Ann GWATKIN (maybe Mary Ann) (1870), Jane Elizabeth GWATKIN (1871), Emily GWATKIN (1876). Ruth Ann Baker United States

Hi Ruth Ann, I have some Williams wills I am working on and I noticed two that have a Gwatkin(s) in them. I noticed it because it is such an unusual name. The wills are: Mary Williams of Raglan Widow 1787 (NLW ref. LL/1787/85) Matthew Gwatkin signs as a witness. Thomas Williams of Raglan Farmer 1778 (NLW ref. LL/1778/112) John Gwatkins, a Smith occupies a Smith Shop and dwelling house in the town of Raglan belonging to Thomas Williams. Thomas David occupies the adjacent dwelling house. I have not yet completed transcribing these wills, but if you like copies please connect me off list. I can send you transcripts in the next few weeks. Regards, Peter Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Ann Baker" <ratbaker@juno.com> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:49 AM Subject: [MON] GWATKIN vs WATKIN or WATKINS > Have a GWATKIN family I am researching in Monmouthshire. > Interested in how often I might expect to find the surname as WATKIN or > WATKINS. > > Thomas GWATKIN may be the son of Benjamin GWATKIN and Paulina. > Would like to confirm this as there are at least two individuals of the > same name in the area who are about the same age. > > 1. There is an IGI entry for a Thomas GWATKIN christened 18 > March 1838 Llangattock Lingoed, Monmouthshire, England. Is this the same > individual as shown on later items? > > 2. Have not yet looked for him on the 1841, 1851, or 1861 census > as I no longer have access to those census years. Can you find him on > those? > > 3. I have a Thomas GWATKIN that married an Ann SAUNDERS about > 1859 in Abergavenny area of Monmouthshire (from birth certificate of one > of their children). Still need to order the marriage certificate to > confirm his parents and find name of her father. > > 4. Do have Thomas GWATKIN, his wife Ann, and their children on > the 1871 (have image), 1881 (have only index), and 1891 census (have > image). > a. The 1871 image has family on Tudor Street in > Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, with him as Thomas GWATKIN, age hard to read, > occupation carpenter, (birthplace Llangattock in Monmouthshire). RG > 10/5309, folio 85, page 11, household 50. > b. On the 1881 index he is Thomas G. WATKINS, age 42, > occupation carpenter joiner, at 16 Tudor Street, Abergavenny, > Monmouthshire, (birthplace Llangattock Lingoed, Monmouthshire). Index > gives RG 11 Piece 5235, folio 13, page 20. Does it look like surname is > GWATKIN on the actual image? > c. The 1891 image has family at 23 Monk Street in > Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, with him as Thomas GWATKIN, age 52, > occupation carpenter, (birthplace Abergavenny, Monmouthshire). RG > 12/4347, folio 129, page 13, household 66. > d. Is Llangattock Lingoed near enough to Abergavenny > that an individual would use the terms interchangeably as a birthplace? > > 5. Notes about deaths of this couple: > a. Believe Thomas GWATKIN died in 1893 in Abergavenny, > Monmouthshire. > b. Believe Ann SAUNDERS GWATKIN died in 1892 in > Abergavenny, Monmouthshire. > c. Would like to have a few more details of their early > years before ordering their death certificates, to be sure I have the > right couple. > > 6. Children of Thomas GWATKIN and Ann SAUNDERS known at this > time include James Charles GWATKIN (1861), William GWATKIN (about 1864), > Alfred GWATKIN (1865), Pauline GWATKIN (about 1867), Thomas GWATKIN > (1868), Ann GWATKIN (maybe Mary Ann) (1870), Jane Elizabeth GWATKIN > (1871), Emily GWATKIN (1876). > > Ruth Ann Baker > United States > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >