----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Watkins" <jonesraglan@aol.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Dave Moore" <dave@djmoore.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [MON] Llanvihangel Crucorney query > > On 17 Mar 2007, at 00:15, Dave Moore wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am researching the Powell family who lived in Llanvihangel Crucorney >> in the early 1900s. >> >> I have the 1901 marriage certificate of Charles Powell (son of Joseph >> Powell) which states that he was living at Berry Cottage, Llanvihangel >> Crucorney, in September 1901. >> >> I also have the birth certificate of Charles's son Archibald, which also >> shows his place of birth as Berry Cottage, Llanvihangel Crucorney, in >> January 1907. >> >> I cannot identify Charles or Joseph in the 1901 census, and when I >> search the entire Llanvihangel Crucorney entry in that census there is >> no sign of Berry Cottage. >> >> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Maybe Berry Cottage was listed >> under a different district in 1901? > > > not one in Wales in 1881 > Charles Powell with father Joseph > > in 1891 and 1901 Wales they are too young to marry in 1901 > > please post full details of all the names on the marriage certifcate > occupation and even the priest :-) > > where did the bride live? > if we can find her he may be in the next street Hugh, many thanks for your help. The marriage certificate has the following information (it's a poor copy, so my transcription may have slight errors): 19 Sept 1901, at the Parish Curch, Cwmyoy. Charles Powell, full age, bach, labourer, Berry Cottage, Llanvihangel Crucorney Father: Joseph Powell, Labourer. Catherine Johnson, full age, widow, The Rock, Cwmyoy Father: John Walbeyoff, Labourer Witnesses: Henry Powell, Annie Shaw Married by Rlashiell C. Lewis, after banns. I know that Catherine Walbeyoff was previously married to a George Johnson (in 1889, Abergavenny) who died in 1896, and I can find Catherine and her family in the 1901 census, at Cwmyoy. There is a Charles Powell at Cwmyoy, but I don't know if it's the right one. And there's no sign of his father Joseph Powell or Berry Cottage. > looks like half of it [Llanvhangel Crucorney] is missing in 1901 Maybe that's why I can't find Berry Cottage there in 1901? Where else can I look -- directories? Dave

my second answer bounced because of the 40 kb limit the cottage is close to Berry farm and empty in 1901 Hugh W On 17 Mar 2007, at 08:48, Dave Moore wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Watkins" <jonesraglan@aol.com> > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Dave Moore" <dave@djmoore.fsnet.co.uk> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:46 AM > Subject: Re: [MON] Llanvihangel Crucorney query >> >> On 17 Mar 2007, at 00:15, Dave Moore wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am researching the Powell family who lived in Llanvihangel >>> Crucorney >>> in the early 1900s. >>> >>> I have the 1901 marriage certificate of Charles Powell (son of >>> Joseph >>> Powell) which states that he was living at Berry Cottage, >>> Llanvihangel >>> Crucorney, in September 1901. >>> >>> I also have the birth certificate of Charles's son Archibald, >>> which also >>> shows his place of birth as Berry Cottage, Llanvihangel >>> Crucorney, in >>> January 1907. >>> >>> I cannot identify Charles or Joseph in the 1901 census, and when I >>> search the entire Llanvihangel Crucorney entry in that census >>> there is >>> no sign of Berry Cottage. >>> >>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Maybe Berry Cottage was >>> listed >>> under a different district in 1901? >> >> >> not one in Wales in 1881 >> Charles Powell with father Joseph >> >> in 1891 and 1901 Wales they are too young to marry in 1901 >> >> please post full details of all the names on the marriage certifcate >> occupation and even the priest :-) >> >> where did the bride live? >> if we can find her he may be in the next street > > Hugh, many thanks for your help. > > The marriage certificate has the following information (it's a poor > copy, so > my transcription may have slight errors): > > 19 Sept 1901, at the Parish Curch, Cwmyoy. > > Charles Powell, full age, bach, labourer, Berry Cottage, Llanvihangel > Crucorney > Father: Joseph Powell, Labourer. > > Catherine Johnson, full age, widow, The Rock, Cwmyoy > Father: John Walbeyoff, Labourer > > Witnesses: Henry Powell, Annie Shaw > > Married by Rlashiell C. Lewis, after banns. > > > I know that Catherine Walbeyoff was previously married to a George > Johnson > (in 1889, Abergavenny) who died in 1896, and I can find Catherine > and her > family in the 1901 census, at Cwmyoy. There is a Charles Powell at > Cwmyoy, > but I don't know if it's the right one. And there's no sign of his > father > Joseph Powell or Berry Cottage. > >> looks like half of it [Llanvhangel Crucorney] is missing in 1901 > > Maybe that's why I can't find Berry Cottage there in 1901? Where > else can I > look -- directories? > > Dave > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Watkins" <jonesraglan@aol.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Llanvihangel Crucorney query > > my second answer bounced because of the 40 kb limit > > the cottage is close to Berry farm and empty in 1901 So you managed to find Berry Cottage in 1901? Where? Dave