G'day everybody First of thanks for answering my second plea for help in as many weeks. Hopefully, I will get some joy from Gwent Records. They have helped in the past with regard to my wife's errant grandfather who ended his days in Ty Bryn, Tredegar in 1942. Regards Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia On 16/02/2012 9:41 PM, NICOLA THOMAS wrote: > Ray > Town School or George St would be the most likely.

Hi all I required permissioon to marry in 1963 from my RN captain. John

If one of the parties was a minor, that is not old enough to marry without parental permission, L.P.Given might mean Legal Permission Given or something similar. At one time I think that members of the regular army also needed permission to marry. Whether that still applied in 1933 I don't know. Prisoners allowed out of prison to marry might also need permission. Unless of course there was an extra witness called L.P.Given Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd and Judy" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: [MON] MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE > > Hello, > I have just received a marriage certificate dated 1933 from > Cardiff > and where it says in the presence of us there is the usual two names but > by > the first name it also says L.P. Given, can anybody tell me what this > means > as I have never seen this before. Thanks for any help. > > Regards, > > Syd > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have just received a marriage certificate dated 1933 from Cardiff and where it says in the presence of us there is the usual two names but by the first name it also says L.P. Given, can anybody tell me what this means as I have never seen this before. Thanks for any help. Regards, Syd

Ray Town School or George St would be the most likely. Records for both have survived and are at the Gwent RO. Nicola Pontypool ----- Original Message ----- From: monmouthshire-request@rootsweb.com To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 16 February, 2012 8:00:22 AM Subject: MONMOUTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Help wanted - mining occupation (The Lewis family) 2. Re: Help wanted - mining occupation (Sylvia Morgan) 3. Re: Help wanted - mining occupation (Steve Veysey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:18:16 +0800 From: The Lewis family <lewisfamily@iinet.net.au> Subject: Re: [MON] Help wanted - mining occupation To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4F3B6A48.5020705@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed G'day List I am stuck again. Have used the Archives Wales site to search for Pontypool school registers for the years 1885 - 1892 when I could reasonably expect my late grandfather to have attended school there. No luck, even though I tried a variety of search strategies.. Let me explain and tell you what I know. On the 1891 Census Hector Lewis is shown as living at 8 Upper Bridge Street and he is shown as scholar. He was born in 1878 so I took a stab at 1887 for a reasonable chance that he would be a pupil at one of the local schools. I realise that Pontypool has changed somewhat from that period but is there someone on the list who might know what school(s) he could have attended. That way I might perhaps narrow my search and strike gold. Of course, the school registers for Pontypool may not have survived from that period. If this is the case, I'd still like to know so that I can stop what will be a fruitless search. Thanks in anticipation Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia

Hi Ray Try this link. It shoes the holdings for Gwent Archives, Gwent schools, records http://anws.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/anw/search2?coll_id=76985&inst_id=36&term=sc hool Steve > G'day List > > I am stuck again. Have used the Archives Wales site to search for > Pontypool school registers for the years 1885 - 1892 when I could > reasonably expect my late grandfather to have attended school there. > No luck, even though I tried a variety of search strategies.. > > Let me explain and tell you what I know. On the 1891 Census Hector > Lewis is shown as living at 8 Upper Bridge Street and he is shown as scholar. > He was born in 1878 so I took a stab at 1887 for a reasonable chance > that he would be a pupil at one of the local schools. I realise that > Pontypool has changed somewhat from that period but is there someone > on the list who might know what school(s) he could have attended. That > way I might perhaps narrow my search and strike gold. Of course, the > school registers for Pontypool may not have survived from that period. > If this is the case, I'd still like to know so that I can stop what > will be a fruitless search. > > Thanks in anticipation > > Ray Lewis > Hazelmere Western Australia

G'day List I am stuck again. Have used the Archives Wales site to search for Pontypool school registers for the years 1885 - 1892 when I could reasonably expect my late grandfather to have attended school there. No luck, even though I tried a variety of search strategies.. Let me explain and tell you what I know. On the 1891 Census Hector Lewis is shown as living at 8 Upper Bridge Street and he is shown as scholar. He was born in 1878 so I took a stab at 1887 for a reasonable chance that he would be a pupil at one of the local schools. I realise that Pontypool has changed somewhat from that period but is there someone on the list who might know what school(s) he could have attended. That way I might perhaps narrow my search and strike gold. Of course, the school registers for Pontypool may not have survived from that period. If this is the case, I'd still like to know so that I can stop what will be a fruitless search. Thanks in anticipation Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia

HI I dont know if it is open, yet but you could try Gwent Record Office Sylvia On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:18 AM, The Lewis family <lewisfamily@iinet.net.au>wrote: > G'day List > > I am stuck again. Have used the Archives Wales site to search for > Pontypool school registers for the years 1885 - 1892 when I could > reasonably expect my late grandfather to have attended school there. No > luck, even though I tried a variety of search strategies.. > > Let me explain and tell you what I know. On the 1891 Census Hector Lewis > is shown as living at 8 Upper Bridge Street and he is shown as scholar. > He was born in 1878 so I took a stab at 1887 for a reasonable chance > that he would be a pupil at one of the local schools. I realise that > Pontypool has changed somewhat from that period but is there someone on > the list who might know what school(s) he could have attended. That way > I might perhaps narrow my search and strike gold. Of course, the school > registers for Pontypool may not have survived from that period. If this > is the case, I'd still like to know so that I can stop what will be a > fruitless search. > > Thanks in anticipation > > Ray Lewis > Hazelmere Western Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers    I am  looking for any descendants of the three surviving sons of Thomas & Mary Ann JENKINS of Queen St Blaenavon.   Census 1911 Thomas b 1861 was unmarried & living with his widowed mother, sister & nephew at 59 Queen St Blaenavon. I think he married Alice MURPHY in 1913 (no details)           William b1865 whereabouts unknown           John b1861 married 4 years to widow Mary Ann DASH living at 13 Martin St Blaenavon.   Mary Ann JENKINS nee JAMES b1839 Glandwr Farm, Llanover Upper, d/o William JAMES and his second wife Mary nee JONES formerly of Goytre. Mary Ann and her sisters Rachel & Gwenllian were all baptised together at Goytre in 1843. Rachel & Gwenllian (Gwenny) migrated to the US with their husbands.   Still hoping for some extra pieces of my jigsaw puzzle Luned in Tasmania

  Hi Listers, reposting in the hope that someone, one day will be able to add a little piece to my jigsaw puzzle:-) Still looking for JAMES of Glandwr (Lanydoor, Llanydwr, Glunydde, Glundwr Dland Y Dwr), Llanover Upper, pre 1833. First names often Benjamin & William, they owned & rented land in Llanover, Goytre & Trevethin. Not sure if either were churchwardens at St Bartholomews Llanover 1750-1850. I have various wills dating from 1730 - 1830 mentioning Benjamin, William and Enoch but having trouble making any connection with JAMES of Glandwr or anywhere else. William JAMES b1793c  first married Elizabeth JENKINS who died after the birth of William b1831 (about), William then married Mary JONES of Goytre (parents of Mary Ann who married Thomas JENKINS see next post Abergavenny Lunatic Asylum). William JAMES  & both wives are buried at Hanover Chapel, Llanover. The chapel records are lost, if anyone knows if there are any transcriptions of the chapel records I'd love to know. I have visited the graveyard and taken notes. There is a book Celebrating 350 years of Worship at Hanover by J Glyndwr Harris which covers the chapel's history. It's on the shelf at the Gwent RO but every time I go there it's not there:-( worse, it's out of print. William's parents, Benjamin & Gwenllian JAMES are both buried at St Bartholomew's Llanover, so there must have been a split in the family, Established Church vs Dissenters. Here's hoping Luned in Tasmania

Welcome Lyn, Although we know that every other person in Wales is a Jones, I'll once again post my Jones information.  My great-great grandfather was Philip Jones born about 1828 in Pontypool.  All I know about Philip's parentage is his father was a collier named John as indicated in the Sharon Chapel, Abergavenny,  church marriage records where Philip married Sarah Fear in 1856.   Sarah was born 1834 in Publow, Somerset.  Philip and Sarah had four children:  Samuel, Sarah, John and Mary Jane - all born in Ebbw Vale.  If any of this sounds familiar, I'd love to hear from you. Janet A. English Pittsburgh, PA  USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <cdkty@saywardvalley.net> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:44:22 AM Subject: [MON] posting my interest for the YENDALL connections I am new to your list and I would like to post my interests in connection with the Yendall family in the Monmouthshire area. These are just a few surnames; Badger, Bird, Briffett/Breffitt, Bright, Butcher, Cowley, Evans, Ford, Hourihane, Hughes, Janes/Jaynes, Jones, Manchip, Perry, Pugh, Self, Sergent, Tennant, Yendall I would like to hear from anyone who recognizes any of these connections. Lyn, Sayward, BC Canada

Photos of: St Etheldreda's Church, Hyssington, MGY; St John's Church, Clydach, GLA; Ebenezer Chapel, Forden, MGY; St Michael's Church, Kerry, MGY; Kerry Baptist Chapel, Kerry, MGY; Noddfa Baptist Chapel, Abersychan, MON Dear Listers, In the past week I have added the following subjects to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection': St Etheldreda's Church, Hyssington, in the county of Montgomeryshire. (Photography by Google StreetView and Ellie Thomas). St John's Church, Clydach, in the county of Glamorgan. This is an expansion of an existing entry, rather than a new entry. (Photography by Google StreetView and Gwyn Rowlands) Ebenezer Congregational Chapel, Forden, in the county of Montgomeryshire. This is an expansion of an existing entry, rather than a new entry. (Photography by Ellie Thomas and Google StreetView) St Michael's Church, Kerry (Ceri), in the county of Montgomeryshire. (Photography by Google StreetView) Kerry Baptist Chapel, Kerry, in the county of Montgomeryshire. (Photography by Ellie Thomas and Google StreetView) Noddfa Baptist Chapel, Abersychan, in the county of Montgomeryshire. (Photography by Google StreetView) Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/ and scroll down the index to the relevant Hyssington, Clydach, Forden, Kerry, and Abersychan links. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ Joint Webmaster - Breconshire Local & Family History Society http://www.blfhs.c.uk/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

I am new to your list and I would like to post my interests in connection with the Yendall family in the Monmouthshire area. These are just a few surnames; Badger, Bird, Briffett/Breffitt, Bright, Butcher, Cowley, Evans, Ford, Hourihane, Hughes, Janes/Jaynes, Jones, Manchip, Perry, Pugh, Self, Sergent, Tennant, Yendall I would like to hear from anyone who recognizes any of these connections. Lyn, Sayward, BC Canada

Sorry for mispost of reply to David Zimmerman - I don't know what happened there - senior moment??:)Jan, Australia

DavidI think this is also them in 1861 Name: Morgan Morgan Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Morgan Gender: Male Where born: Cilewm, Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty Ecclesiastical parish: Tredegar Town: Ebbw Vale County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Bedwelty Sub-registration district: Tredegar ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Household schedule number: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4005 Folio: 6 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Morgan Morgan 51 Ann Morgan 52 William Morgan 20 Morgan Morgan 12 John Morgan 10 The place for Morgan Morgan seens to read Cilewm, when I tried Google maps they suggested Cilycwm (which with my small knowledge of Welsh means its a valley town. And you can see how the census taker might have got it wrong - especially as he was probably English.The two following sites may help you further. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Cil-y-Cwm/ 26 Jan 2012 ... Cilycwm village site - ... Welcome to the new look Cilycwm website. ... How though, in 2012, do we do justice to the language of Wales in a way ...http://www.cilycwm.com/ RegardsJan > From: zimmerman409@charter.net > To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:16:35 -0500 > Subject: [MON] The Morgan Family of Monmouthshire. > > There is a Morgan Morgan in the 1851 Wales census and his wife Ann ( ) and their son William Morgan in Monmouthshire, Bedwelty Parish, Village of Ebbw Vale. HO 107 2448. > I am not able to determine the birthplace for Morgan Morgan and Ann ( ). I have tried Googling the names but no luck. Perhaps the census taker mis-spelled the names. > If someone is browsing Ancestry, or other resource, and your time allows, would you interpret the birth location for those folks. > Thank you in advance for anything you can provide. > If you are researching these folks, let's talk. > Dave Zimmerman > Howell, Michigan USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We like you to post the answers to the list so that everyone can see that there has been a response. It is so much better to know that someone has replied then to think that no one knows. Please, everyone when responding to queries make sure your message comes to the list for the benefit of everyone Ann Macey List Admin -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Moon Sent: 07 February 2012 00:26 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Apology Sorry for mispost of reply to David Zimmerman - I don't know what happened there - senior moment??:)Jan, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a William Morgan in Ebbw Vale in 1851 age 6 b Mon, Aberystruth with parents William Morgan 31 from Carmarthenshire, Llandingat [The parish Llandovery is in] and Ann Morgan 31 b Carmarthenshire Llanyrris [or similar] http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llandingad/index.html Morgan Morgan 48 and wife Sarah 39 , with son William 7 , b Mon, Bedwellty are in Manmoel, Ebbw Vale in 1851, both parents born Carmarthenshire Llandovery I haven't listed the other children. In 1861 Morgan Morgan age 51 b Carmarthenshire Cilcwm [Cilycwm], Iron Shearer and wife Ann 52 b Carmarthenshire Llangaler (probably Llangeler) have a son William 20 and Iron puddler b Ebbw Vale, in Manmoel, Ebbw Vale, parish of Bedwellty, Mon. I hope one of these families is the one you are looking for. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Zimmerman" <zimmerman409@charter.net> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:16 PM Subject: [MON] The Morgan Family of Monmouthshire. > There is a Morgan Morgan in the 1851 Wales census and his wife Ann > ( ) and their son William Morgan in Monmouthshire, Bedwelty Parish, > Village of Ebbw Vale. HO 107 2448. > I am not able to determine the birthplace for Morgan Morgan and Ann > ( ). I have tried Googling the names but no luck. Perhaps the > census taker mis-spelled the names. > If someone is browsing Ancestry, or other resource, and your time allows, > would you interpret the birth location for those folks. > Thank you in advance for anything you can provide. > If you are researching these folks, let's talk. > Dave Zimmerman > Howell, Michigan USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day List and particularly Jon and Mike Thanks for the swift response to my inquiry. From both of your replies, my great uncle could have been either. of the two. However, I think it's more likely that he was someone who hitched the trams together. rather than a mine surveyor's assistant. I'll put that down as one of his various occupations My interest in Octavius Jones lies in the plaque which commemorates him on the Pontypool Park Memorial Gates (if they are still there) where he is, as far as I know, the only one from Pontypool killed whilst serving as a member of the Australia and New Zealand Army Corps at Gallipoli. Seeing that 2015 marks the centenary of the Gallipoli campaign, I wondered if the Torfaen Council might like to commemorate the occasion in some small way. Regards Ray On 3/02/2012 8:19 PM, Jon's FH wrote: > Hi again Ray, > > > > The Oxford Dictionary suggests that it was a person who fastened coal trucks together<snipped>

There is a Morgan Morgan in the 1851 Wales census and his wife Ann ( ) and their son William Morgan in Monmouthshire, Bedwelty Parish, Village of Ebbw Vale. HO 107 2448. I am not able to determine the birthplace for Morgan Morgan and Ann ( ). I have tried Googling the names but no luck. Perhaps the census taker mis-spelled the names. If someone is browsing Ancestry, or other resource, and your time allows, would you interpret the birth location for those folks. Thank you in advance for anything you can provide. If you are researching these folks, let's talk. Dave Zimmerman Howell, Michigan USA

After viewing the S4C programme about Augusta Hall, Lady Llanover listers might be interested in my wife's updated web site http://augustaladyllanover.coffeecup.com/ Brian Forder