Hi Bill- My Grt Grt Grt Grandmother was Margaret Thomas from Langibby Monmouth. She married Charles James. Have you come across her in your search. I would appreciate any snippet- Jan James Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Harrison Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 6:44 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] Multiple Thomas THOMAS individuals Hi Ruth I have a couple of thomas THOMAS's on my tree .... see my online tree for details at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk ======================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Ann Baker" <ratbaker@juno.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com>; <MIDMARCH@rootsweb.com>; <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Cc: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: [MON] Multiple Thomas THOMAS individuals > Do you have a Thomas THOMAS individual in your family? Can you > help eliminate the many that are in the area in the latter part of the > 1700's and early part of 1800's? Would you be willing to share about > your Thomas THOMAS to help tell which ones do not fit? > > I have a relative Hannah PITT that married a Thomas THOMAS in > 1806 in Hereford, Herefordshire. She was christened/baptized in 1771 at > Clodock Parish, Herefordshire, the eldest of six known children. Her > death certificate tells of her death in 1868 at age 98 at Cusop, > Herefordshire, the widow of Thomas THOMAS, occupation cooper. Do not > know if this couple had children or not. Also do not know where Hannah > was buried. > Because of what is mentioned in wills, it appears > Hannah's husband Thomas THOMAS died between 1832 when her father's will > was written and 1840 when her brother's will was written. > > Hannah's sister Elizabeth (PITT) MEREDITH died in 1875 in Cusop, > Herefordshire, age 91, but was buried in Clyro, Radnorshire as was > Elizabeth's husband and their son that lived with them. They were > farmers. > Hannah's brother Henry PITT died in 1861 at Hay, Breconshire, age > 77. He was a blacksmith and master whitesmith. Do not know if he had > children. > Hannah's brother James PITT Jr. died in Longtown, Herefordshire > in 1843, age 70. He was a farmer. He may have had no children. > Hannah's father James PITT Sr. lived at Nayadd Bach (name of a > home or property it appears), Herefordshire and was buried at > Michaelchurch Escley, Herefordshire in 1833 at age 93. It appears his > wife Elinor and young daughter were also buried in Michaelchurch Escley, > Herefordshire. His second wife Hannah (JENKINS) GWILLIM PITT was buried > in Clodock, Herefordshire. > MEREDITH nieces and nephews of Hannah (PITT) THOMAS ended up in > Blaina and Abergavenny, Monmouthshire; near Merthyr Tydfil, > Glamorganshire; Hay plus Brynmawr in Llangattock Parish, Breconshire; > Clyro, Radnorshire; Marizon, Cornwall, England; and the United States. > Some of the next generation even ended up in South Africa and Australia! > > Have received a death certificate for a Thomas THOMAS that died > at age 14, in Cusop, Herefordshire in 1838, son of Henry THOMAS, a > blacksmith that does not fit our family. Does he fit in your family? > > Looking forward to hearing about Thomas THOMAS individuals to > help unravel the puzzle. > Ruth Ann Baker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to get my interests in the above areas also posted since there are so many Davies postings recently. Anyone, know of the following families, please contact me. Descendants of John Davis FAMILY ONE 1 John Davis b: Abt. 1811 in Llangan, Carmarthenshire, Wales .. +Hannah Unknown b: Abt. 1811 in Carmarthenshire, Wales ..... 2 Benjamin Davis b: Abt. 1831 ..... 2 Martha Davis b: Abt. 1833 ..... 2 Mary Davis b: Abt. 1835 ..... 2 John Davis b: Abt. 1837 ..... 2 David Davis b: Abt. 1840 ..... 2 Elizabeth Davis b: Abt. 1853 in Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales This family is listed with first 4 children on 1841 Census of Uwchlawrcoed Hamlet, Bedwellty FAMILY TWO Descendants of William Davis 1 William Davis b: Abt. 1818 .. +Elizabeth Unknown b: Abt. 1818 ..... 2 Elizabeth Davis b: Abt. 1840 This family is listed in the 1841 Uwchlawrcoed Hamlet, Bedwellty on same page as John above. FAMILY THREE Descendants of Edward Davis 1 [1] Edward Davis b: Apr 16, 1809 in Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales d: Sep 07, 1881 in Cambria Co., PA .. +Possibly Ann Thomas OR Unknown Unknown m: Bef. 1833 ..... 2 Jonathan Davis b: Abt. 1833 ..... 2 Ann Davis b: Abt. 1835 *2nd Wife of [1] Edward Davis: .. +Caroline Webster b: Feb 06, 1809 in Wales d: Feb 08, 1862 in Wales m: Dec 30, 1837 in Parish of Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales ..... 2 Edward Yerworth Davis b: 1838 in Wales d: Abt. 1902 in Wales ......... +Sarah Lewis ..... 2 Child 4 Davis ..... 2 David Davis b: Abt. Aug 1840 in Wales d: Jun 16, 1841 in Wales ..... 2 Child 6 Davis ..... 2 [2] David Davis b: May 05, 1842 in Twyn Carno, Rhymney, Monmouth, Wales This family with the children Jonathan, Ann, Edward, and first David are listed in the 1841 Uwchlawrcoed Hamlet, Bedwellty census on same page as above John and William. The 1861 census shows Caroline with children David (the second one), Thomas, Elizabeth. Anyone who may have ANY connections, please contact me. Sincerely, Richard J. Davis John 3:16

My Grandfather Cyril Walter Davies was born Nov. 1903 in Newbridge. He joined the marines around 1919/20 and I was wondering if there was any way I could get information about him in Navy records and does anyone have any suggestions. Thanks Carol

I thought I would put in my two cents! Dwellin 17 Church St, Bedwellty, Mon Wales David Davies m 61 Landilo, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Carpenter Mary Dvies M 62 F Abergwily, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Wife John Davies W 32 Merthry Tydfil, Glamorgan Wales Rel: son Occ: Engin Fitter Eleanor Davies U 29 F Merthry Tydfil, Glamorgan Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker David W. Davies 2 M Gellygaer, Glam, Wales Rel: Grandson Thomas Rodgers M20 M Rhymney, Mon, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Traffic Weigher Mary Rodgers m 23 F Merthyr Tydfil, Glam Wales Rel Boarder occ: Traffic Weigher wife Thomas Rodger and Mary Rodgers nee Davies were my great grandparents, somewhere along the line the D in Rodgers was dropped or initially Rogers was mispelled any connections. :) Sarah ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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Hi Ruth I have a couple of thomas THOMAS's on my tree .... see my online tree for details at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk ======================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Ann Baker" <ratbaker@juno.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com>; <MIDMARCH@rootsweb.com>; <POWYS@rootsweb.com> Cc: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: [MON] Multiple Thomas THOMAS individuals > Do you have a Thomas THOMAS individual in your family? Can you > help eliminate the many that are in the area in the latter part of the > 1700's and early part of 1800's? Would you be willing to share about > your Thomas THOMAS to help tell which ones do not fit? > > I have a relative Hannah PITT that married a Thomas THOMAS in > 1806 in Hereford, Herefordshire. She was christened/baptized in 1771 at > Clodock Parish, Herefordshire, the eldest of six known children. Her > death certificate tells of her death in 1868 at age 98 at Cusop, > Herefordshire, the widow of Thomas THOMAS, occupation cooper. Do not > know if this couple had children or not. Also do not know where Hannah > was buried. > Because of what is mentioned in wills, it appears > Hannah's husband Thomas THOMAS died between 1832 when her father's will > was written and 1840 when her brother's will was written. > > Hannah's sister Elizabeth (PITT) MEREDITH died in 1875 in Cusop, > Herefordshire, age 91, but was buried in Clyro, Radnorshire as was > Elizabeth's husband and their son that lived with them. They were > farmers. > Hannah's brother Henry PITT died in 1861 at Hay, Breconshire, age > 77. He was a blacksmith and master whitesmith. Do not know if he had > children. > Hannah's brother James PITT Jr. died in Longtown, Herefordshire > in 1843, age 70. He was a farmer. He may have had no children. > Hannah's father James PITT Sr. lived at Nayadd Bach (name of a > home or property it appears), Herefordshire and was buried at > Michaelchurch Escley, Herefordshire in 1833 at age 93. It appears his > wife Elinor and young daughter were also buried in Michaelchurch Escley, > Herefordshire. His second wife Hannah (JENKINS) GWILLIM PITT was buried > in Clodock, Herefordshire. > MEREDITH nieces and nephews of Hannah (PITT) THOMAS ended up in > Blaina and Abergavenny, Monmouthshire; near Merthyr Tydfil, > Glamorganshire; Hay plus Brynmawr in Llangattock Parish, Breconshire; > Clyro, Radnorshire; Marizon, Cornwall, England; and the United States. > Some of the next generation even ended up in South Africa and Australia! > > Have received a death certificate for a Thomas THOMAS that died > at age 14, in Cusop, Herefordshire in 1838, son of Henry THOMAS, a > blacksmith that does not fit our family. Does he fit in your family? > > Looking forward to hearing about Thomas THOMAS individuals to > help unravel the puzzle. > Ruth Ann Baker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have a Thomas THOMAS individual in your family? Can you help eliminate the many that are in the area in the latter part of the 1700's and early part of 1800's? Would you be willing to share about your Thomas THOMAS to help tell which ones do not fit? I have a relative Hannah PITT that married a Thomas THOMAS in 1806 in Hereford, Herefordshire. She was christened/baptized in 1771 at Clodock Parish, Herefordshire, the eldest of six known children. Her death certificate tells of her death in 1868 at age 98 at Cusop, Herefordshire, the widow of Thomas THOMAS, occupation cooper. Do not know if this couple had children or not. Also do not know where Hannah was buried. Because of what is mentioned in wills, it appears Hannah's husband Thomas THOMAS died between 1832 when her father's will was written and 1840 when her brother's will was written. Hannah's sister Elizabeth (PITT) MEREDITH died in 1875 in Cusop, Herefordshire, age 91, but was buried in Clyro, Radnorshire as was Elizabeth's husband and their son that lived with them. They were farmers. Hannah's brother Henry PITT died in 1861 at Hay, Breconshire, age 77. He was a blacksmith and master whitesmith. Do not know if he had children. Hannah's brother James PITT Jr. died in Longtown, Herefordshire in 1843, age 70. He was a farmer. He may have had no children. Hannah's father James PITT Sr. lived at Nayadd Bach (name of a home or property it appears), Herefordshire and was buried at Michaelchurch Escley, Herefordshire in 1833 at age 93. It appears his wife Elinor and young daughter were also buried in Michaelchurch Escley, Herefordshire. His second wife Hannah (JENKINS) GWILLIM PITT was buried in Clodock, Herefordshire. MEREDITH nieces and nephews of Hannah (PITT) THOMAS ended up in Blaina and Abergavenny, Monmouthshire; near Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire; Hay plus Brynmawr in Llangattock Parish, Breconshire; Clyro, Radnorshire; Marizon, Cornwall, England; and the United States. Some of the next generation even ended up in South Africa and Australia! Have received a death certificate for a Thomas THOMAS that died at age 14, in Cusop, Herefordshire in 1838, son of Henry THOMAS, a blacksmith that does not fit our family. Does he fit in your family? Looking forward to hearing about Thomas THOMAS individuals to help unravel the puzzle. Ruth Ann Baker

Mike. A very big thanks to you for the information and the census inclusion. It has been a real stumbling block for me and I appreciate your help. Pearl.

In a message dated 1/16/2007 9:35:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, email@lindakt.freeserve.co.uk writes: I have an Evans Evans in my family tree He is the son of Thomas and Charlotte EVANS born around 1816 He is the brother of my GRT GRT GRT Grandmother Mary Evans They were all born in the Bedwellty area regards Linda ======== Hi, Linda, and thank you for your response. What I know about the origin of my Evan Evans is that he was said in the 1841 Wales Census for Garndiffaith, Trevethin Parish, to have been b. MON and aged 25 (which given the rounding down of that Census to the nearest 5 yrs meant that he could have been up to 29 years of age). So the birth year range I have for him is c1812-1816. I do not know who his parents were, or his siblings, or where in MON he was born. I do have it established that he married Mary Joshua, and the union produced my G Grandmother Mary Ann Evans in Oct 1841. From the 1841 Census, it appears that Mary Ann was the third child born to Evan and Mary, the first being Anne c1835 and the second being David c1839. All of the children were b. Trevethin, MON. The IGI presents one marriage of an Evan Evans and a Mary Joshua. It was in Llanover, MON in 1831, and I verified that marriage in the Llanover BT. However, it is the only known or suspected connection of my Evan/Mary family to Llanover, so I am reluctant to claim it yet. So far it does not look like you and I have more than a possibility of a link, but I will certainly keep your post handy in the hope of future connecting developments. Regards, Cecil

Many thanks to the listers who responded so quicly on my request, it is truly appreciated! Kindest regards to all, Jon

Edward Whitehall and family lived at 24 Commercial Street, Newport. Edward's cccupation was that of Watchmaker Master, whilst his wife had no occupation. The son however is listed as an apprentice. Hope this is of assistance. Nev. Watkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Nixey" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: "Rootsweb Monmouthshire" <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:08 AM Subject: [MON] 1861 Census help, Newport > Hi listers, > > If sks has a few moments to spare, could they please find the address and > occupations of the family listed below in the 1861 census please? Many > thanks in advance, > > Kindest regards to all, Jon > > Edwin Whitehall, Head, abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England > Mary B Whitehall, Wife, abt 1819 Bath, Somerset, England > Robert J Whitehall, Son, abt 1845 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi listers, If sks has a few moments to spare, could they please find the address and occupations of the family listed below in the 1861 census please? Many thanks in advance, Kindest regards to all, Jon Edwin Whitehall, Head, abt 1820 Gloucestershire, England Mary B Whitehall, Wife, abt 1819 Bath, Somerset, England Robert J Whitehall, Son, abt 1845 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

In a message dated 1/15/2007 6:20:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, hldevans@medicine.nodak.edu writes: Have you, in searching for your Evanses, encountered any information about Edward? ========= Hi, Harold. No, I have no information about Edward Evans, but will contact you should I run across him. Regards, Cecil

My great grandmothers brother was Jesse Garland born Varteg 1852 , I have found his second marriage certificate to Rachel Davis in Pontypool Registry Office in 1885 , but have not been able to locate his first marriage to Elizabeth [ he was married to her in 1881 and had 2 children John born about 1879 and Jesse]I was wondering if anyone had come across this marriage . Thank you . Liz

Hello Jon Census 1861 Edwin Whitehall, age 41 Occupation Watchmaker Mary B Whitehall, age 42 Wife Robert J Whitehall, age 16 Apprentice Address 24, Commercial Street Newport. Regards Barbara

Hello Liz, I could only locate the second marriage in 1885 to Rachel, I did find a death of possibly his second child named Jesse who died at the age of 7 in the Jan-Feb-Mar Quarter of 1885. Have you got the details of what Elizabeth's maiden name was, because if you had that you may locate her record for the marriage, possibly Jesse may have been spelt differently and that is why his first marriage is not showing. Regards Barbara

Cecil, In the Bishops' Transcripts for 1725 - 1812 for the Diocese of Llandaff in Monmouth, on 27 Oct 1785, Edward, son of Edward John Evan by Mary his wife was christened. He may have been the Edward Evans who on 17 Mar 1811 married Mary Edmunds and on 23 Sep 1816, as a widower, married Hannah Jarrett, a widow, and was buried on 3 Oct 1840--all in Risca, Monmouth. (Hannah's maiden name was Coslet.) Have you, in searching for your Evanses, encountered any information about Edward? Thanks. Harold Wctx@aol.com wrote: >Evan Evans, b. 1812-1816 MON, was my GG Grandfather. The last trace I have >of him is Oct 1841, when he registered the birth of my G Grandmother, Mary, >in Garndiffaith, Pontypool District, Trevethin, MON. His occupation was >Fireman. There were two children older than Mary in his family at that time. > >His wife, Mary formerly Joshua, remarried in Jul 1847 in Trevethin, MON, >casting herself as a Widow. However, I have been able to find no record of the >death of first husband Evan. There are two Evan Evanses d. 1841-1847 in >FreeBMD for the Pontypool District, and I have obtained death certificates for >both but neither is the right man (one is an infant, the other a senior >citizen, and my Evan would have been in his thirties). Mindful that people did not >always die in their home District, I note a multiplicity of deaths for Evan >Evanses in Abergavenny and other Districts near Pontypool in 1841-1847, but >there are too many to affordably obtain death certificates for all. > >I am also mindful that there were occasions when a husband/father absconded, >and the abandoned wife had him declared dead or otherwise went on with life >as a widow. In this regard, I note that her second marriage was in the >Register Office in Trevethin Parish, and I understand that resort to civil >ceremonies was sometimes had to avoid embarrassing questions that might be raised at >a church wedding. I also note that Evan, and Mary and her children, while >living in Garndiffaith for the Jun 1841 Wales Census, did not appear to be >living under the same roof. > >I have not located Evan in any passenger list of emigrants, or been able to >identify him in any Wales Census subsequent to 1841. I do not know whether >the family were Church in Wales, or Non-Conformists, though I suspect the >latter. > >I respectfully solicit the collective wisdom of the List as to where I might >proceed next in my efforts to find him. > >Regards, >Cecil > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Steve, The reason why I asked is that I'm totally blind and can't access images only transcriptions with my text reader. Thanks for your kindness though, I can pass the images on to the family friend. Many thanks once again, Jon

Evan Evans, b. 1812-1816 MON, was my GG Grandfather. The last trace I have of him is Oct 1841, when he registered the birth of my G Grandmother, Mary, in Garndiffaith, Pontypool District, Trevethin, MON. His occupation was Fireman. There were two children older than Mary in his family at that time. His wife, Mary formerly Joshua, remarried in Jul 1847 in Trevethin, MON, casting herself as a Widow. However, I have been able to find no record of the death of first husband Evan. There are two Evan Evanses d. 1841-1847 in FreeBMD for the Pontypool District, and I have obtained death certificates for both but neither is the right man (one is an infant, the other a senior citizen, and my Evan would have been in his thirties). Mindful that people did not always die in their home District, I note a multiplicity of deaths for Evan Evanses in Abergavenny and other Districts near Pontypool in 1841-1847, but there are too many to affordably obtain death certificates for all. I am also mindful that there were occasions when a husband/father absconded, and the abandoned wife had him declared dead or otherwise went on with life as a widow. In this regard, I note that her second marriage was in the Register Office in Trevethin Parish, and I understand that resort to civil ceremonies was sometimes had to avoid embarrassing questions that might be raised at a church wedding. I also note that Evan, and Mary and her children, while living in Garndiffaith for the Jun 1841 Wales Census, did not appear to be living under the same roof. I have not located Evan in any passenger list of emigrants, or been able to identify him in any Wales Census subsequent to 1841. I do not know whether the family were Church in Wales, or Non-Conformists, though I suspect the latter. I respectfully solicit the collective wisdom of the List as to where I might proceed next in my efforts to find him. Regards, Cecil

Hi Jon They are images. I sent copies to your email at btinternet.com. Let me know if you get them. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Nixey Sent: 15 January 2007 10:40 AM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] Robert James Whitehall, Newport Hi Steve, That's absolutely brilliant! Thanks so much! Are the directories images or transcriptions? Thanks again, Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message