Beth Anne, If you cannot locate naturalization papers at local or state courts, apply to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. You can download an application form from their website. Call 1-800-375-5283 for information/instructions. I don't have the URL. Or you may write to them at the U.S. Department of Homeliand Security, P.O. Box 648010, Lee's Summit, MO 64064-8010. Harold Grand Forks, ND Kathy Nemaric wrote: >Beth Anne, > >My Irish coal-mining ancestor came in through Castle Garden from Scotland in >1880 and went to Tioga County, Pennsylvania. I was able to get my >great-grandfather's declaration of intent (to apply for citizenship) and his >naturalization petition from the county court house. He filed his intent in >1886 and was naturalized in 1897 in the Court of Common Pleas for Tioga >County. > >I sent my request to the court house by snail mail, along with a small fee, >and they were able to send me photocopies of the papers. There wasn't a lot >of information, but it's still nice to have. > >I was going to check online for you, but there are several towns with the >name of Taylor in Pennsylvania, and I didn't know which county was the right >one. But the county courthouse nearest to where your ancestor lived is a >good place to start looking for naturalization documents. > >Kathy Judge Nemaric >Orlando, Florida > >-----Original Message----- >From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Bergers >Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:41 PM >To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA > >Where can you locate copies of Naturalization papers? Nearly all of my >family emigrated from Wales to Taylor, PA, USA in the mid 1870s. >Thanks! >Beth Anne Jones Berger > > >-----Original Message----- >From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vernia Brooks >Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM >To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA > >Hi John, By any chance did they go to Cleveland OH? That is where my >husband's family settled in 1870s and 80s. I found their naturalization >papers when they became citizens of the US and that gave me a lot of >information. I recently found some of them on the Pembroke ship arriving in > >1873. Good luck. Vernia > > > > >>Hi all. >> >>I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a lot. >> >>My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* I cannot find him on >>any ships manifest that I have searched on Castlegarden.org or >>Immigrantships.net. >> >>Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife Abigail and children >>David, Gertrude, Caroline. >> >>I am wondering if there was recruiting going on during 1886/1887 that >>would have taken many families from Sth Wales off to work in the >>Iron/Steel Industries of the USA, and if there were then where would they >>have arranged passages from. Newport? >> >>Any help or guidance here would be very much appreciated as although I am >>certain that the family is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make >>the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in Ohio. >> >>Thanks >> >>John Jones >>My Website http://genesrus.org >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> > > > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Just reread my email and noticed I'd put Mary Jane Prosser, it should be Martha. The Mary Jane belongs to another part of the family. Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Prosser http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Lewis Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 11:04 AM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] Surname Interests: Jones; Lewis; Prosser G'day All There are lots of Jones families out there in the Eastern Valley but mine only goes back to my great-grandfather Edwin Jones, born about 1847, but I don't know exactly where, and there are a few out there about the right time. The Lewis family is represented by my great grandmother Sarah, mother of Hector Vernon Lewis my grandfather(no father, was brought up as his mother's brother). The Prossers I have only just found out about, Mary Jane Prosser married Edwin Jones in 1874 but I haven't yet got the marriage certificate. Hopefully, it will be on its way during next week. Then perhaps I'll find out more about that side of the family except that I can't find here birth registration yet. Regards Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Prosser

Hello Listers, I am new to this list and just beginning my research in Wales. Would sks with access to UK Ancestry mind looking in the 1861 Census for me please, to see if they can find a James & Elizabeth WATTS with at least 2 daughters - Barbara (Sarah is her middle name) and Mary A. Barbara was my great grandmother. I have been kindly given them in 1851 & 1871 and going by FreeBMD, I believe James and Elizabeth were married in 1849. Elizabeth and the 2 girls emigrated to Australia in 1876. I suspect that James may have died in 1874. Birthdates are James c1818/19; Elizabeth c1821/22/27 (I think she may have fibbed on immigrating); Mary A 1860; Barbara 1864. I believe that Elizabeth (nee WILLIAMS) was born in Woolwich, Kent; & James in Goetre, Monmouthshire in Wales. Im pretty sure the 2 girls were born in Monmouthshire too. I would be very interested to see if there were any other children; and what the occupations were in the 1861 census. Any other ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated also. Many thanks in anticipation, Estelle (in Australia) _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT

When looking for immigration to the UNITED STATES, don't forget CANADIAN ship records. My grandfather, MATTHEW [MCNAMARA] MACK b: 1878 TIR PHIL, GLAMORGANSHIRE, WALES sailed from LIVERPOOL to QUEBEC CITY in 1903. He then entered the US through BUFFALO, NEW YORK in 1904 to come to the SOUTHWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA coal fields where his sister, JOHANNA [MCNAMARA] DOWNEY lived. Johanna was 24 years older than Matthew and she left Wales in 1871 seven years before my grandfather was born. Their first meeting as brother and sister was when he came to America. Pam (Mack) Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA pnixon15378@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

Scranton PA is the county seat for Lackawanna County. This is right in the middle of the largest anthracite coal mining region in America. The coal mines run as far south as Schuylkill County. The coal mining here is not very active lately partly because they had a catastrophic accident in the 1950' and the river flooded most of the mines. They owners had allowed the mining to go too close to the river. My great grandparents came to Luzerne Co (right below Lackawanna Co) from Aberdaare, Glamorgan, Wales with all their children. The 2 oldest sons had gone ahead, gotten jobs., secured a job for their father and gotten them a rental house to live in. I know they already had close relatives in the area. They seemed to go to the same church and live with/in a few minutes walk from each other. My Grandmother said that at the same time, they were advertising for coal miners to come to America, they were advertising for miner's in Patagonia, SA., I imagine that the mining in Patagonia would be for silver (Agent refers to silver in the Spanish language.

Sylvia She's listed as Elizabeth Davie in 1901, living with Harriet and William at 4 Garn Old Houses, Blaenavon, and working as a charwoman. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia gardner I am having a problem finding Elizabeth Davies in 1901, as I said I have the family in 1891, which includes Elizabeth's father Joseph Button and 2 children with the Hall name. I may have Thomas Davies death in 1892. Elizabeth and family seem to have disapeared after. She had a daughter Elizabeth Jane Button born 1869, Llanwenarth, she was illigitamate, she mar; William John Gardner in Mountain Ash Glam, 1890. My thoughts were could Have Elizabeth Davies moved to Glam, prior to 1901? Robert Treharne Jones <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: If you had all that already what information do you want the list to help with? -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia gardner Thank you for replying, The info you sent I have so you are correct. Robert Treharne Jones wrote: Hi Sylvia It was only when I looked at your previous email that I saw that the family surname was Davies, with an 'e'! I'm not sure how common the surname is on your side of the pond but it makes a great deal of difference over here! The 1891 census entry you mention includes a great deal of detail which allows some assumptions to be made. As well as Thomas and Elizabeth Davies there is Joseph Button, who is listed as father-in-law of Thomas. It seems reasonable to assume that Button was Elizabeth's maiden name before she married Richard Hall. Also living under the same roof are Joseph, John and Richard Hall - all teenage boys listed as stepsons of Thomas. I'm sure these are Elizabeth's children by her first husband. As far as the address is concerned Lower Gamm (?) Terrace is Lower Garn Terrace in Blaenavon. http://tinyurl.com/24rrqq. The 1881 census lists Elizabeth with Richard and living at 4 Long Rank, Llanwenarth Ultra http://tinyurl.com/2odj5h. They had three children at that time - Joseph, Martha and John - by 1891 Martha, now aged 15, was already in service at Goytre Hall http://tinyurl.com/38htvo Both Elizabeth Button and her father were born in Frome, Somerset - I found her in the 1851 census, still in Somerset, but she was already in Llanwenarth Ultra ten years later. If you want to explore the Frome connections you could do a lot worse than join the lively Frome discussion group by sending a blank email to: Frome-subscribe@yahoogroups.com HTH Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia gardner could some kind soul help me find Elizabeth Davis, she was a widdow when she married Thomas Davis so was he, I have them in 1891 in 9 Lower Gamm? Terrace he 46 she 41 I may have found Thomases death 2nd qtr 1892. Their youngest child William J Davies was 31/2.in 1891 She may have children by her first husband Richard Hall, who died Sept,1881. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is a newly-discovered (new to me at least) site with a treasure trove of archive documents - http://www.footnote.com. It is not specifically a genealogy site, but it does have a lot of material that would be very useful to a genealogist or historian. There are Pennsylvania Archives documents that you can view for free (other documents require a subscription). Included in the for-fee documents are also petitions and declarations for naturalization in New York, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts. One might get lucky and find naturalization documents there without having to get them from the courthouse. Kathy Judge Nemaric

Thanks Kathy, Taylor is in Lackawanna County, near Scranton. Tons of Welsh immigrants ended up in that immediate vicinity for the prolific mining industry at the time. Hence, my ancestors. Did you apply to the county courthouse in the town where they settled? I am unsure of which port they came through, but I would have guessed New York. Seems to have been the major point of entry. Did you need exact dates? Thanks again...I'll see if this works for me. Beth Anne -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Nemaric Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:06 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA Beth Anne, My Irish coal-mining ancestor came in through Castle Garden from Scotland in 1880 and went to Tioga County, Pennsylvania. I was able to get my great-grandfather's declaration of intent (to apply for citizenship) and his naturalization petition from the county court house. He filed his intent in 1886 and was naturalized in 1897 in the Court of Common Pleas for Tioga County. I sent my request to the court house by snail mail, along with a small fee, and they were able to send me photocopies of the papers. There wasn't a lot of information, but it's still nice to have. I was going to check online for you, but there are several towns with the name of Taylor in Pennsylvania, and I didn't know which county was the right one. But the county courthouse nearest to where your ancestor lived is a good place to start looking for naturalization documents. Kathy Judge Nemaric Orlando, Florida -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Bergers Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:41 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA Where can you locate copies of Naturalization papers? Nearly all of my family emigrated from Wales to Taylor, PA, USA in the mid 1870s. Thanks! Beth Anne Jones Berger -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vernia Brooks Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA Hi John, By any chance did they go to Cleveland OH? That is where my husband's family settled in 1870s and 80s. I found their naturalization papers when they became citizens of the US and that gave me a lot of information. I recently found some of them on the Pembroke ship arriving in 1873. Good luck. Vernia > Hi all. > > I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a lot. > > My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* I cannot find him on > any ships manifest that I have searched on Castlegarden.org or > Immigrantships.net. > > Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife Abigail and children > David, Gertrude, Caroline. > > I am wondering if there was recruiting going on during 1886/1887 that > would have taken many families from Sth Wales off to work in the > Iron/Steel Industries of the USA, and if there were then where would they > have arranged passages from. Newport? > > Any help or guidance here would be very much appreciated as although I am > certain that the family is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make > the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in Ohio. > > Thanks > > John Jones > My Website http://genesrus.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 1/20/2007 8:42:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, bberger2@triad.rr.com writes: Where can you locate copies of Naturalization papers? Nearly all of my family emigrated from Wales to Taylor, PA, USA in the mid 1870s. Thanks! Beth Anne Jones Berger Hi, Beth. My GGrandfather's naturalization papers were issued in 1884 by the Court of Common Pleas of Clearfield County, PA, where he settled after emigrating from Garndiffaith, Trevethin Parish, MON in 1879. Taylor, PA looks to be in Lackawanna County, so the Court House there would be a good place to start looking for them. Perhaps there is a Historical or Family History Society in Lackawanna County that would help you. Regards, Cecil

Beth Anne, My Irish coal-mining ancestor came in through Castle Garden from Scotland in 1880 and went to Tioga County, Pennsylvania. I was able to get my great-grandfather's declaration of intent (to apply for citizenship) and his naturalization petition from the county court house. He filed his intent in 1886 and was naturalized in 1897 in the Court of Common Pleas for Tioga County. I sent my request to the court house by snail mail, along with a small fee, and they were able to send me photocopies of the papers. There wasn't a lot of information, but it's still nice to have. I was going to check online for you, but there are several towns with the name of Taylor in Pennsylvania, and I didn't know which county was the right one. But the county courthouse nearest to where your ancestor lived is a good place to start looking for naturalization documents. Kathy Judge Nemaric Orlando, Florida -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Bergers Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:41 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA Where can you locate copies of Naturalization papers? Nearly all of my family emigrated from Wales to Taylor, PA, USA in the mid 1870s. Thanks! Beth Anne Jones Berger -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vernia Brooks Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA Hi John, By any chance did they go to Cleveland OH? That is where my husband's family settled in 1870s and 80s. I found their naturalization papers when they became citizens of the US and that gave me a lot of information. I recently found some of them on the Pembroke ship arriving in 1873. Good luck. Vernia > Hi all. > > I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a lot. > > My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* I cannot find him on > any ships manifest that I have searched on Castlegarden.org or > Immigrantships.net. > > Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife Abigail and children > David, Gertrude, Caroline. > > I am wondering if there was recruiting going on during 1886/1887 that > would have taken many families from Sth Wales off to work in the > Iron/Steel Industries of the USA, and if there were then where would they > have arranged passages from. Newport? > > Any help or guidance here would be very much appreciated as although I am > certain that the family is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make > the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in Ohio. > > Thanks > > John Jones > My Website http://genesrus.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: I am trying to learn information about my Pryce-Jones family. Issac and Ruth (PRYCE) JONES (md. 1827 in Bedwellty Parish) and later settled in Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania. Their daughter, Elizabeth (Jones) Stone settled in Taylor, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania: Husband: Isaac Stone (b. 1851) Wife: Elizabeth "Lizzie" Jones (b. 1857) Children: Frederick Edgar Allen Lillian (married Thomas H. HOWELLS) Charles Ross (died young) Dorothy (married John STEEVER) Archibald Any of those names sound familiar? Ruth Ann

Hello: Find out if the LDS Family History Library has microfilmed the naturalization records for your county. Like all libraries, the Family History Center has a "library catalog" of their holdings. Go online and check the LDS Family History "Library Catalog" to see if naturalizations records for your area have been microfilmed. Cost of renting the film is less than $4.00 and you might find other family members on the film, also. Go to www.familysearch.org and click on "Library Catalog". Good luck. Ruth Ann

Hi Do you have any Pontypool records? My gg grandparents married there in 1873. Rachel Jones and Lewis M. Reese. They are proving particularly elusive in searches. Thanks Beth Anne Jones Berger -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wyn Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:38 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA What information or advertisement did the people of Wales have for the jobs in the USA? Did the US companies send representatives to solicit for workers? My Greatgrand father Noah Howell was a Coal miner in LlanSamlet, came to the USA and settled In Martins Ferry, Ohio, as a Coal miner in 1869. My other Greatgrand father Wyndham Davies was a tin sorter in Pontypool, and settled in Martins Ferry, Ohio as a Mill worker in 1873. How did they know where the jobs were in the USA? Wyndham N. Davies Newark, Ohio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where can you locate copies of Naturalization papers? Nearly all of my family emigrated from Wales to Taylor, PA, USA in the mid 1870s. Thanks! Beth Anne Jones Berger -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vernia Brooks Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:33 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] From Wales to the USA Hi John, By any chance did they go to Cleveland OH? That is where my husband's family settled in 1870s and 80s. I found their naturalization papers when they became citizens of the US and that gave me a lot of information. I recently found some of them on the Pembroke ship arriving in 1873. Good luck. Vernia > Hi all. > > I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a lot. > > My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* I cannot find him on > any ships manifest that I have searched on Castlegarden.org or > Immigrantships.net. > > Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife Abigail and children > David, Gertrude, Caroline. > > I am wondering if there was recruiting going on during 1886/1887 that > would have taken many families from Sth Wales off to work in the > Iron/Steel Industries of the USA, and if there were then where would they > have arranged passages from. Newport? > > Any help or guidance here would be very much appreciated as although I am > certain that the family is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make > the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in Ohio. > > Thanks > > John Jones > My Website http://genesrus.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What information or advertisement did the people of Wales have for the jobs in the USA? Did the US companies send representatives to solicit for workers? My Greatgrand father Noah Howell was a Coal miner in LlanSamlet, came to the USA and settled In Martins Ferry, Ohio, as a Coal miner in 1869. My other Greatgrand father Wyndham Davies was a tin sorter in Pontypool, and settled in Martins Ferry, Ohio as a Mill worker in 1873. How did they know where the jobs were in the USA? Wyndham N. Davies Newark, Ohio

Hi John, By any chance did they go to Cleveland OH? That is where my husband's family settled in 1870s and 80s. I found their naturalization papers when they became citizens of the US and that gave me a lot of information. I recently found some of them on the Pembroke ship arriving in 1873. Good luck. Vernia > Hi all. > > I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a lot. > > My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* I cannot find him on > any ships manifest that I have searched on Castlegarden.org or > Immigrantships.net. > > Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife Abigail and children > David, Gertrude, Caroline. > > I am wondering if there was recruiting going on during 1886/1887 that > would have taken many families from Sth Wales off to work in the > Iron/Steel Industries of the USA, and if there were then where would they > have arranged passages from. Newport? > > Any help or guidance here would be very much appreciated as although I am > certain that the family is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make > the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in Ohio. > > Thanks > > John Jones > My Website http://genesrus.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Our families left Ystradyfodwyg and Tredegar via Liverpool for the PA coal fields via New York in the cases where we can find their passage. My late wife's great grandmother (Mary Jones) is reputed to have worn a path she went back and forth so often. Every other child seems to have been born on the opposite side of the Atlantic from the previous one. Most of the manifests we identified were through the Ellis Island listings. Bill Evans John Jones wrote: > Hi all. > > I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a lot. > > My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* I cannot find him on any ships manifest that I have searched on Castlegarden.org or Immigrantships.net. > > Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife Abigail and children David, Gertrude, Caroline. > > I am wondering if there was recruiting going on during 1886/1887 that would have taken many families from Sth Wales off to work in the Iron/Steel Industries of the USA, and if there were then where would they have arranged passages from. Newport? > > Any help or guidance here would be very much appreciated as although I am certain that the family is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in Ohio. > > Thanks > > John Jones > My Website http://genesrus.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Sylvia If you had all that already what information do you want the list to help with? Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia gardner Thank you for replying, The info you sent I have so you are correct. Robert Treharne Jones <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Hi Sylvia It was only when I looked at your previous email that I saw that the family surname was Davies, with an 'e'! I'm not sure how common the surname is on your side of the pond but it makes a great deal of difference over here! The 1891 census entry you mention includes a great deal of detail which allows some assumptions to be made. As well as Thomas and Elizabeth Davies there is Joseph Button, who is listed as father-in-law of Thomas. It seems reasonable to assume that Button was Elizabeth's maiden name before she married Richard Hall. Also living under the same roof are Joseph, John and Richard Hall - all teenage boys listed as stepsons of Thomas. I'm sure these are Elizabeth's children by her first husband. As far as the address is concerned Lower Gamm (?) Terrace is Lower Garn Terrace in Blaenavon. http://tinyurl.com/24rrqq. The 1881 census lists Elizabeth with Richard and living at 4 Long Rank, Llanwenarth Ultra http://tinyurl.com/2odj5h. They had three children at that time - Joseph, Martha and John - by 1891 Martha, now aged 15, was already in service at Goytre Hall http://tinyurl.com/38htvo Both Elizabeth Button and her father were born in Frome, Somerset - I found her in the 1851 census, still in Somerset, but she was already in Llanwenarth Ultra ten years later. If you want to explore the Frome connections you could do a lot worse than join the lively Frome discussion group by sending a blank email to: Frome-subscribe@yahoogroups.com HTH Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia gardner could some kind soul help me find Elizabeth Davis, she was a widdow when she married Thomas Davis so was he, I have them in 1891 in 9 Lower Gamm? Terrace he 46 she 41 I may have found Thomases death 2nd qtr 1892. Their youngest child William J Davies was 31/2.in 1891 She may have children by her first husband Richard Hall, who died Sept,1881. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, John, 1900 Census, Ohio, Belmont County 3-wd Bridgeport Thomas Jenkins, born June 1852, age 45 married 26 years, came to USA 1887 13 years ago Naturalized works as a Rougher Abigal Jenkins age 45 (states born June 1845?) had 8 children, 5 living, David Jenkins born March 1875 age 25 single Rougher Gertrude Jenkins born Sept 1881 age 18 Caroline Jenkins born Nov 1883 age 16 Ada Jenkins born May 1891 age 9 born Ohio I didn't check with 1919 Census but can do that if you wish. hope this helps, Helen in Ohio --- John Jones <genes@genesrus.org> wrote: > Hi all. > > I am new to this list so bear with me if I ask a > lot. > > My Grt Grt Uncle left Monmouth for America in 1887* > I cannot find him on any ships manifest that I have > searched on Castlegarden.org or Immigrantships.net. > > Thomas Jenkins left Monmouthshire with his wife > Abigail and children David, Gertrude, Caroline. > > I am wondering if there was recruiting going on > during 1886/1887 that would have taken many families > from Sth Wales off to work in the Iron/Steel > Industries of the USA, and if there were then where > would they have arranged passages from. Newport? > > Any help or guidance here would be very much > appreciated as although I am certain that the family > is in Ohio in 1900/1910 & 1920 I have yet to make > the link between them leaving Wales and arriving in > Ohio. > > Thanks > > John Jones > My Website http://genesrus.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

Hi Sylvia It was only when I looked at your previous email that I saw that the family surname was Davies, with an 'e'! I'm not sure how common the surname is on your side of the pond but it makes a great deal of difference over here! The 1891 census entry you mention includes a great deal of detail which allows some assumptions to be made. As well as Thomas and Elizabeth Davies there is Joseph Button, who is listed as father-in-law of Thomas. It seems reasonable to assume that Button was Elizabeth's maiden name before she married Richard Hall. Also living under the same roof are Joseph, John and Richard Hall - all teenage boys listed as stepsons of Thomas. I'm sure these are Elizabeth's children by her first husband. As far as the address is concerned Lower Gamm (?) Terrace is Lower Garn Terrace in Blaenavon. http://tinyurl.com/24rrqq. The 1881 census lists Elizabeth with Richard and living at 4 Long Rank, Llanwenarth Ultra http://tinyurl.com/2odj5h. They had three children at that time - Joseph, Martha and John - by 1891 Martha, now aged 15, was already in service at Goytre Hall http://tinyurl.com/38htvo Both Elizabeth Button and her father were born in Frome, Somerset - I found her in the 1851 census, still in Somerset, but she was already in Llanwenarth Ultra ten years later. If you want to explore the Frome connections you could do a lot worse than join the lively Frome discussion group by sending a blank email to: Frome-subscribe@yahoogroups.com HTH Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia gardner could some kind soul help me find Elizabeth Davis, she was a widdow when she married Thomas Davis so was he, I have them in 1891 in 9 Lower Gamm? Terrace he 46 she 41 I may have found Thomases death 2nd qtr 1892. Their youngest child William J Davies was 31/2.in 1891 She may have children by her first husband Richard Hall, who died Sept,1881.