Hello Walt, I know that last email was not addressed to me, but I had to stick my twopenneth in. Your fault for pressing my buttons. <grin>. You might be interested to know, or not, that I have a very little knowledge during my life, of two distinct King families. One in Tylorstown in my youth. That is in the Rhondda Fach. And one in Cwmparc in later years. Now, I have been told that the people from Cwmparc in the Rhondda Fawr are generally descended from Montgomeryshire ancestors. So your link with Machynlleth is interesting from that point of view. Also, I have living relatives in that very area where Owain Glyndwr had his parliement. This branch of my family came from Merionethshire originally, so be aware that Montgomeryshire might even lead you there eventually. Watch out though, because I have been into family history for 26 years, doubling up with every generation, so I have lots of different surnames that I have worked with. No Kings yet though, so you are safe for the present. Best regards, Maureen Lived in both Rhondda's.

Hello Jo and Walt, et, I suppose we all have family stories about the Welsh or Welsh not speakers. I grew up in the Rhondda to English speaking parents. But, keeping ears and eyes open it just could not ge avoided to pick up at least some idea of the Welsh language. It was because of my non Welsh speaking parents that I was denied a place at the local bilingual school. However, my maternal gran had some knowledge of Welsh, and her English translations were comical on times. She would say 'pudding rice, instead of rice pudding. My paternal grandmother was English speaking because her family hailed from Radnorshire and her mother's family originally hailed from Kington in Herefordshire. So, gain you would have English and Welsh marriages with the English side taking over because the other did not understand. As for the double ll sound Jo, I found out some years ago, that English speaking tongues would pronounce it as cl. So, when my grandmother told me that her mother was born on a farm called Lamarowie, I found the farm with the name on the gravestone spelled as Clan bach howey. Actually, it was called ' Llan Bach Howey. Another case of using my own limited knowledge to work that out and eventually finding the correct farm. Another farm wa called Teeisha, according to the pronouncication of my grandmother, but I found it spelled as Tyisha. The correct form would be Ty Isaf. Lower house. The first farm would probably be Little place on the Howey river. But, that is my own interpretation. Anyway, I did something to rectify some of this lapse in my forebears, because I sent my youngest to abilingual school, and one of my children sent all three of hers to the same school. My Merionethshhire gteat grandparents, and grandfather would have been pleased I am sure. Hope you enjoyed my input. Regards, Maureen

Hi John. Made a mistake regarding the hospital, should have been the Lady Aberdare Maternity Hospital. Regards. Sylvia John Ball <john@jlb2005.plus.com> wrote: Dear Listers, The subjects for this week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A two-page exploration of Mountain Ash in the Cynon Valley, county of Glamorgan (twenty-five pictures). This feature was first shown on Images of Wales in March 2004. 2. The market town of Abergavenny in the county of Monmouthshire (eight pictures). This feature was first shown on Images of Wales in February 1998. You can access the above features via www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm As usual, both features will be available on my website for one week. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator for BRE, MGY, POWYS, & RAD mailing lists ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

Hi John. Thank you for the pictures of Mountain Ash.I have walked the streets many times, travelled between Aberdare and Cardiff on the train, walked over the bridge t o Fox Street behind St. Margarets Church, where my late in-laws lived, Bernard Baldwin was a very close friend of my father in law Walter James Gardner. My late husband was born in the Lady Margaret Maternity Hospital in 1927, many of the Williams/Evans/Griffiths and Gardner familys are burried in the Aberffrwd cemetary. Again thank you for the pictures which I am now going to print for my grand children. By the way I was born in Hayes Middlesex. Regards. Sylvia in Kentucky USA John Ball <john@jlb2005.plus.com> wrote: Dear Listers, The subjects for this week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A two-page exploration of Mountain Ash in the Cynon Valley, county of Glamorgan (twenty-five pictures). This feature was first shown on Images of Wales in March 2004. 2. The market town of Abergavenny in the county of Monmouthshire (eight pictures). This feature was first shown on Images of Wales in February 1998. You can access the above features via www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm As usual, both features will be available on my website for one week. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator for BRE, MGY, POWYS, & RAD mailing lists ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers.

Dear Listers, The subjects for this week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my website, are: 1. A two-page exploration of Mountain Ash in the Cynon Valley, county of Glamorgan (twenty-five pictures). This feature was first shown on Images of Wales in March 2004. 2. The market town of Abergavenny in the county of Monmouthshire (eight pictures). This feature was first shown on Images of Wales in February 1998. You can access the above features via www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm As usual, both features will be available on my website for one week. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator for BRE, MGY, POWYS, & RAD mailing lists

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Hello Can anyone pinpoint the location of 'Canal Row' in Abercarn and tell me the adjoining streets? I'm guessing it was near the canal (!) - but looking at 'Old Maps' it isn't identified by name and there are several potential candidates. Regards Mark Breeze Derbyshire

I keep hearing film star Ioan Gruffud's name pronounced every which way. I would have thought phonetically as "Ee-an Griffeth". But what do I know! What's correct? Thanks, Mitzi in Seattle

Hello Judy, Without knowing exactly what you are looking for, have you yourself searched Census records and have you obtained BMD's for your Lewis family. And what year would they have left Wales to go overseas. Regards Barbara

Blackwood Branch of Gwent Family History Society have transcribed some of the parish records from the Western part of the old county of Monmouthshire.These are now available on CD-ROM from the sales officer. These should be on www.parishchest.com and on www.genfair.com in a few days. BCD08 Fleur-de-lis Baptisms 1897-1920, MArriages 1897-1919 BCD09 Fleur-de-lis Burials 1904-1935 BCD10 The Benjamin Price Registers Baptisms from Bedwellty, Aberystruth, and Llangattwg parishes 1793-1841 For further details email me off list and I will tell you more Ann Macey List Admin

Hello Monmouthshire County: I am researching the LEWIS surname and would appreciate any information/direction one may have to offer. BARBARA ELLEN "LILLIE" LEWIS was born March 1862 in Abergavenny. She was the daughter of WILLIAM G. LEWIS and JANE PERSE (?). She eventually moved the the US, married, had children and died. Thank you in advance for your time and energy. Sincerely, Judy --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.

Link is http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/lewsplace/ourweb/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jim @frome Sent: 22 February 2007 16:19 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] New Ancestry Databases --- Lewis Bates <lewbat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Visit the Bates web pages for loads of interesting history, links and > information. > > Welcome to the Bates Place And the URL is.............? Jim Parsons http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Over 10,500 names in the forest. And I have now found the Woods http://www.fromeresearch.org.uk ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

--- Lewis Bates <lewbat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Visit the Bates web pages for loads of interesting history, links and > information. > > Welcome to the Bates Place And the URL is.............? Jim Parsons http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Over 10,500 names in the forest. And I have now found the Woods http://www.fromeresearch.org.uk ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

I have used this site but am unable to locate my family member who served in WW1 I presume that this list is only for those receiving a pension. Those I did examine were regulars signed up before the war. Did conscripts get pensions? Visit the Bates web pages for loads of interesting history, links and information. Welcome to the Bates Place -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Raymaturner@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2007 14:33 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] New Ancestry Databases In a message dated 22/02/2007 10:35:10 GMT Standard Time, net.ambler@btinternet.com writes: British Army WW1 Pension Records 1914 - 1920 Release One. hi do you know the date of C being released, cheers sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Unfortunately there isn't any mention on the website of this and I suspect the "soft" launch allows them to iron out issues while they prepare the rest. This is what is says on Ancestry: Source Information: Ancestry.com. British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Release One [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: War Office: Soldiers’ Documents from Pension Claims, First World War (Microfilm Copies); (The National Archives Microfilm Publication WO364); Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies; The National Archives of the UK (TNA), Kew, Surrey, England. The National Archives give no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to The National Archives Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, Tel: 020 8392 5225. Fax: 020 8392 5266. Infringement of the above condition may result in legal action. About British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Release One This database contains service records of non-commissioned officers and other ranks who were discharged from the Army and claimed disability pensions for service in WWI. These were also men who did not re-enlist in the Army prior to World War II. The type of information contained in these records includes: name of solider, age, birthplace, occupation, marital status, and regiment number. For more information about this database, click here. Approximately 5 million men served in the British Army in World War One (WWI). This database contains service records of non-commissioned officers and other ranks who were discharged from the Army and claimed disability pensions for service in WWI. These were also men who did not re-enlist in the Army prior to World War II. This first release contains records for surnames beginning A & B. Full surname range coverage will be realised in Release 2. These records contain a variety of forms, including: Attestation forms - the form completed by the individual on enlistment Medical history forms Casualty forms Disability statements Regimental conduct sheets Awards Information available in these records includes: Name of soldier Age Birthplace Occupation Marital status Regimental number Date of attestation Physical description Historical Background: The British Army World War One Pension Records are War Office (WO) records also known as the WO364 records and the ‘Unburnt collection’, due to these records surviving a World War Two bombing raid on the War Office in London where they were held. During this raid, a large portion (approximately 60 per cent) of the British Army World War One Service Records, also known as the WO363 records were destroyed by fire. The surviving service records have also become known as the ‘Burnt collection’. Although many of these records suffered water damage following the bombing raid, all surviving service and pension records were digitised by The National Archives, where both collections are held, as part of a major TNA conservation project. Tips and Notes: These records are unlikely to contain information on individuals who did not claim a pension. These records are unlikely to contain documents on soldiers who were killed in action and had no dependents (as there would have been no one to claim a pension). These records are unlikely to contain documents on soldiers who were discharged from demobilization at the end of the war and did not claim a pension (since they were generally not eligible for one). Some records may have been stored and/or filmed in incorrect alphabetical order. Some records may appear to be out of order due to a misspelling or misreading of the name. Some soldiers did not record their first names; some of them only used initials, and others used nicknames or diminutive names. ----- Original Message ---- From: "Raymaturner@aol.com" <Raymaturner@aol.com> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 22 February, 2007 2:32:36 PM Subject: Re: [MON] New Ancestry Databases In a message dated 22/02/2007 10:35:10 GMT Standard Time, net.ambler@btinternet.com writes: British Army WW1 Pension Records 1914 - 1920 Release One. hi do you know the date of C being released, cheers sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all I was on www.ancestry.co.uk late last night looking for a marriage record and noticed a new set of records. British Army WW1 Pension Records 1914 - 1920 Release One. At the moment they have only got records for surnames beginning with A and B but it looks like a fabulous resource. I found my great grandfathers sign up papers. He joined the army four days after his wedding and it has his address and occupation and even his actual signature. I'm so pleased! I can't wait till the other records are available. I also found early discharge papers for another relative in 1917 so there appears to be a range of records held in this database. Regards Net

In a message dated 22/02/2007 10:35:10 GMT Standard Time, net.ambler@btinternet.com writes: British Army WW1 Pension Records 1914 - 1920 Release One. hi do you know the date of C being released, cheers sue

Good Morning, I came across this the other day too, but it was shear luck that you found your ggfather's records. I was looking for an Albert Birch, I got 3 supposed hits, but two were George Birches and the third was somebody Burch. So the search engine is currently only focusing on "sounds like" surname. Rachel CT, USA Net A <net.ambler@btinternet.com> wrote: Morning all I was on www.ancestry.co.uk late last night looking for a marriage record and noticed a new set of records. British Army WW1 Pension Records 1914 - 1920 Release One. At the moment they have only got records for surnames beginning with A and B but it looks like a fabulous resource. I found my great grandfathers sign up papers. He joined the army four days after his wedding and it has his address and occupation and even his actual signature. I'm so pleased! I can't wait till the other records are available. I also found early discharge papers for another relative in 1917 so there appears to be a range of records held in this database. Regards Net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day David I saw your request about Phipps and Roynon a couple of days ago and replied about the Roynon name. Since I saw your posting we had an email from a friend who still lives in the same street as my wife did in Llwynypia, Rhondda, about 50 years ago. He mentioned one of his friends who used to live across the street from my wife's house. The friend's name was Phipps. Whether or not they originated in Somerset or Monmouthshire, I don't know but both my wife and I have ancestors from Somerset who came to Wales to work in the collieries that were booming at the turn of the 19th Century. Hope this helps Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Davies; Jones; Lewis; Prosser http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carl Jones Sent: Monday, 19 February 2007 11:47 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] TRELLECH Phipps and Phillips, plus Roynon David, as for the link about families meeting, Ive got a somerset Willcowes marring Morgans in Abertillery. Coal mining was dying in somerset and loads of them moved to south wales. carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "david lloyd" <scromlet@tiscali.co.uk> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:22 AM Subject: [MON] TRELLECH Phipps and Phillips, plus Roynon > > I have trying to trace the Phipps family in Trellech, my ancestor Sarah > bapt 1796 was the daughter of Joseph Phipps and Eleanor, and had an older > brother 1793 James and a younger brother 1799 Joseph. > > Sarah crossed to Somerset in 1820's to marry into the fascinating Roynon > family in Compton Martin. > > > I have these Q's, if anyone has any ideas at all I'd be very grateful: > > 1. I can't find many Phipps, but there seem to be lots of Phillips. Is > there a name crossover here maybe? > > 2.There may have been Roynon links into Monmouthshire already? > > 3. How did S Wales and N Somerset families mix? Was it connected to coal? > > 4. Anyone have any Phipps Monmouth roots? > > I'm not in Wales btw, the Phipps is my mother's Somerset side, my Lloyds > are all London since at laest 1780. > > Many thanks > > David Lloyd > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: > 13/02/2007 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Certainly looks like Somerset according to this http://tinyurl.com/37xkcu Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Lewis I saw your request about Phipps and Roynon a couple of days ago and replied about the Roynon name. Since I saw your posting we had an email from a friend who still lives in the same street as my wife did in Llwynypia, Rhondda, about 50 years ago. He mentioned one of his friends who used to live across the street from my wife's house. The friend's name was Phipps. Whether or not they originated in Somerset or Monmouthshire, I don't know but both my wife and I have ancestors from Somerset who came to Wales to work in the collieries that were booming at the turn of the 19th Century.