hi what do you mean, ancestry.com is restricting access soon? cheers sue

I have a Richard James family on the 1841 and 1851 census at Ebbwvale Ironworks, , the Parish of Bedwelty, on 135 Old Collins Row. Does anyone know what churches or parishes were in the immediate area, so I could request birth records, etc. Or, does anyone know anything about this Ironworks. Thanks, Joan

This is probably Trosnant and it is part of Pontypool town. Ann Macey List Admin

Hello Roy, I believe it may have been a time limit of six months, and believe it or not but the public was not made aware of it but it was six months up until a few years ago, but to stop it from going up to six months everyone was told six weeks. Regards Barbara

On 23 Mar 2007, at 17:27, Hugh Watkins wrote: > > On 23 Mar 2007, at 16:55, Win Baker wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I am having great difficulty with a place name that I have found on >> a census >> image, I just cant make it out, and it is in Monmouthshire, so who >> better to >> ask that my fellow listers in Monmouthshire! >> I am not Welsh and live many miles away, please forgive me for not >> being >> able to understand the Welsh words. >> >> I can send the census image off list to anyone who thinks they may >> be able >> to help me. It looks like Llangatter or Fangattur, South Wales and >> in the >> margin the enumerator has written MON., which I take to be >> Monmouthshire. >> >> Many thanks in anticipation >> Win. >> > > just put an ancestry URL in the message > > many of us have subscriptions > BTW any one in a Family History Center remember that ancestry.com is > restricting access very soon > > so enjoy whilst you can > still 1400 libraries world wide have access > > thanks for the eamil with this link http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx? dbid=7572&path=Yorkshire.Skelton+in+Guisbrough.ALL.10.19&rc=&zp=100 James Vaughan line 4 the county *should* be written first and is missing hence marginalia MON which may or not be correct http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx 1871 England Census about James Vaughan Name: James Vaughan Age: 7 months Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Guisbrough, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Guisborough Ecclesiastical parish: Cleveland Town: Guisborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Guisborough Sub-registration district: Kirkleatham ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 86 Household Members: Name Age Frank Drakes 43 Alice Vaughan 3 Eliza Vaughan 27 James Vaughan 7 months John Vaughan 27 Mary A Vaughan 8 Mary G Vaughan 6 Thomas A Vaughan 5 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4857; Folio: 10; Page: 18; GSU roll: 849465. dad is an iron stone miner http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx? dbid=7619&path=Yorkshire.Guisborough.ALL.1.18 1871 ============= John Vaughan Eliza abt 1844 Huntspill, Somerset, England Head Guisborough Yorkshire http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Huntspill/index.html Eliza Vaughan John abt 1844 Wick Sain Lawrence, Somerset, England Wife Guisborough Yorkshire << # Wick St Lawrence View Record Mary A Vaughan John, Eliza abt 1863 Comshergs, Somerset, England Daughter Guisborough Yorkshire View Record Mary G Vaughan John, Eliza abt 1865 North Wales, Bruford N K Daughter Guisborough Yorkshire View Record Thomas A Vaughan John, Eliza abt 1866 North Wales, Bruford N K Son Guisborough Yorkshire View Record Ada Wright Robert, Alice Vaughan John, Eliza abt 1868 North Wales, Bruford N K Daughter Guisborough Yorkshire James Vaughan John, Eliza abt 1870 Guisbrough, Yorkshire, England Son Guisborough Yorkshire NK = Not Known as a place name Ann abt 1857 Osmotherley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Guisborough Yorkshire ================= old-maps is down http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ I like to use that gazetteer at this point by county with the old spelling http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/parishes.html # # Wick St Lawrence about 25% of births were not registered before 1875 so Freebmd did not have any suggestions the only google hits come from the mistakes in 1881 John Vann Betsy abt 1843 Huntspill, Somerset, England Son Huntspill Somerset VANN is not right 1841 James Nawn abt 1837 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset is VAWN there is a whole tribe with 3 generations View Record Thomas Nawn abt 1761 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Hester Nawn abt 1761 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record George Nawn abt 1811 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Betsy Nawn abt 1811 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Henry Nawn abt 1811 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Harriot Nawn abt 1826 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Eliza Nawn abt 1821 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Thos Nawn abt 1833 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record James Nawn abt 1837 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Jame Nawn abt 1839 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset View Record Chas Nawn abt 1841 Somerset, England Huntspill Somerset which a parish register will sort out ========== A possible marriage Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%) RICHARDS Eliza Axbridge 5c 1089 Scan available - click to view VAUGHN John Axbridge 5c 1089 Scan available - click to view ================ 1851 England Census about Henry Richards Name: Henry Richards Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Harriett Gender: Male Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Wick St Lawrence County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Axbridge Sub-registration district: Wedmore ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Ann Richards 9 Eliza Richards 6 Harriett Richards 47 Henry Richards 50 James Richards 4 Sarah Richards 2 Susan Richards 10 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1936; Folio: 605; Page: 8; GSU roll: 221095. gonna stop here we need to find the children when they are older Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

I have just received the following from H.M. Government: The e-petition asking the Prime Minister to "reduce the classified period for census data from 100 years to 70 years" has now closed. This is an email response from HM Government. Thank you for signing the e-petition calling for the closure period on census data to be reduced from its present 100 years to 70 years for the 1911, 1921 and 1931 censuses. The Government understands the frustrations this delay can cause, particularly to people who are researching their family history. But these frustrations have to be balanced against the assurances given to people at the time about confidentiality. This also has implications today, for public confidence in the privacy of information which people provide in future censuses. Clearly, the importance of the personal information provided in the census is that it enables a detailed and accurate picture to be built up of our society. This is of great assistance to Government and to the community as a whole in helping shape policies and set priorities for the future. But unless people believe that the personal data they provide - which includes details of their occupation and who is living with them - will remain confidential and secure as they have been promised, the danger is that they might feel reluctant to give sensitive information. It is for this reason that there is a policy of a 100-year delay before releasing the personal data in the census. The purpose is to minimise the risk of embarrassment both to those living and to their immediate descendants. The Government does not believe this policy should be altered or the explicit assurances given to people at the time broken. You might like to know, however, that the 1911 census was not taken under this Act. The census returns are held by the National Archives, not the Office for National Statistics. Plans are underway to set up an on-line search service of the 1911 census by 2009, although again personally sensitive material will not be released until 2011. The National Archives will also respond to certain requests for information on the 1911 census under the Freedom of Information Act. On a sadder note, the 1931 census records were destroyed by fire during the Second World War. We know this reply will disappoint many people, but hope you will understand that in the long-term, the reasons given are in the best interests of preserving the census for future generations. Peter Williams

Evening All!, Can someone tell me if there was a "time limit" from the time a child was born to it's official registration, especially around the middle 1850's? Ta! Roy

On 23 Mar 2007, at 19:14, JANLWH@aol.com wrote: > Thank you all for the Bedwellty information. My grandfather was > born there. > He came to America when he was 5 yrs. old. He went to work in > the coal > mines of northeastern Pennsylvania at the age of 10 yrs. and had > Black Lung by > his 50's! The family name was Wall, Truscott and Stephens from > the Mon. > (Bedwellty area). I love the pictures of the area and can't wait > to search the > online records. Again, thank you so much for this. I can't > easily get to > Wales to do this on my own and it means so very much to me. > > God Bless, > > Janet > > USA Virginia in some ways it will be easier to take a week at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City with the finding aids and resources from all over the world than research in Wales Hugh W a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Hugh, Funny that you should mention SLC. We are going to CA in May or June for an extended trip and are driving. A very good friend is a professional genealogist in SLC and he wants us to stop either going or coming and we plan to! Hopefully, I have enough time to get into everything that I am researching including all of my Mom's family who were in the USA from the mid 1600's (her last family coming in 1804 from Germany) and most important her Native American ancestors as she is 1/6 Native American (they can be very hard to research). It is my Dad's family that is from Wales and Cornwall and Wiltshire. Janet ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

On 23 Mar 2007, at 16:55, Win Baker wrote: > Hello > > I am having great difficulty with a place name that I have found on > a census > image, I just cant make it out, and it is in Monmouthshire, so who > better to > ask that my fellow listers in Monmouthshire! > I am not Welsh and live many miles away, please forgive me for not > being > able to understand the Welsh words. > > I can send the census image off list to anyone who thinks they may > be able > to help me. It looks like Llangatter or Fangattur, South Wales and > in the > margin the enumerator has written MON., which I take to be > Monmouthshire. > > Many thanks in anticipation > Win. > just put an ancestry URL in the message many of us have subscriptions BTW any one in a Family History Center remember that ancestry.com is restricting access very soon so enjoy whilst you can still 1400 libraries world wide have access Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Hello: The Family History "LIBRARY" is in Salt Lake City. Smaller satellites throughout the world are called Family History "CENTERS". Thus, the centers are smaller, have limited hours, and limited resources on hand. If you can NOT travel to Salt Lake City (USA) to do research, you can view the same microfische and microfilm at a local Family History Center (satellite) near your home. To find a Family History Center near your home, go to the webpage at www.familysearch.org. In most cases, you must pay a small fee to pay for the shipping costs. If you are lucky enough to go to Salt Lake City, plan your research IN ADVANCE in order to make the most of your time. For example, know the hours of the library, holiday closure dates, and parking information. The following webpage provides library rules, library floor plan, helpful hints about visiting Salt Lake City, and helps to prepare to visit the library: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHL/frameset_library.asp BEFORE you go to Salt Lake City, organize your research and know what you want to find or search. Review the online Family History Catalog and learn what films (or books) are available for your areas or surnames of interest. If your time is limited, view the books (vs the films) since the books are NEVER loaned out. (You can rent the films when you get home). It's easy to become overwhelmed when you walk through the magic doors of the library and behold all of the available research materials. Therefore, be SMART and write down book call numbers, fische numbers, and film numbers along with what you hope to find in each. Don't forget that the Family History Societies in Wales have books, booklets, fische, and CDs available with information that, in some cases, is NOT available at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Also, allow a little time in Salt Lake City to be a tourist. Ruth Ann

Hello I am having great difficulty with a place name that I have found on a census image, I just cant make it out, and it is in Monmouthshire, so who better to ask that my fellow listers in Monmouthshire! I am not Welsh and live many miles away, please forgive me for not being able to understand the Welsh words. I can send the census image off list to anyone who thinks they may be able to help me. It looks like Llangatter or Fangattur, South Wales and in the margin the enumerator has written MON., which I take to be Monmouthshire. Many thanks in anticipation Win. _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Chat with 1000s of Sexy Singles right now http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D25447&_t=754951090&_r=chat&_m=EXT

On 23 Mar 2007, at 10:28, Pat wrote: > Hello, can anyone tell me where to find Parish Records for Bedwellty. > > And to any locals, how far is Bedwellty from Cardiff. > these have been filmed http://www.familysearch.org/ http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Place Search Title Parish registers of Bedwelty, 1624-1921 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Bedwelty (Monmouthshire) (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of original records in possession of Gwent Record Office, Cwm-brân, Wales. Records thru 1732 are in Latin. Bedwelty is also spelled Bydwelty and Bedwellty. Gwent Record Office no.: D/Pa 14.1-14.22, 14.48-14.56, 14.73, 14.102, 14.104-14.106, 14.108-14.109. Subjects England, Monmouth, Bedwelty - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Language English Latin Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 2006 Physical on 6 microfilm reels ; 35 mm. Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Baptisms, 1624-1715, 1718-1731, 1733-1800, 1802-1814; marriages, 1634,1638-1655, 1660, 1673, 1677-1700, 1703-1714, 1719-1724, 1726-1754; burials, 1627-1636, 1638-1667, 1669-1715, 1717, 1720-1731, 1734-1797, 1800-1805, 1807-1809, 1812-1815. - VAULT BRITISH Film [ 2411318 Item 9 ] Baptisms, 1815-1903 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2408882 Items 2 - 3 ] Baptisms, 1903-1913 - VAULT BRITISH Film [ 2411318 Item 1 ] Banns and marriages, 1755-1805 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2408882 Item 4 ] Marriages, 1805-March 14, 1840 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2408882 Items 5 - 10 ] Marriages, March 16, 1840-May 28, 1872 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2408883 Items 1 - 4 ] Marriages, May 30, 1872-March 4, 1899 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2408884 Items 1 - 4 ] Marriages, March 8, 1899-June 14, 1915 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 2408885 Items 1 - 5 ] Marriages, June 19, 1915-1921; banns, 1829-1862 (some banns include the marrige date) - VAULT BRITISH Film [ 2411317 Items 1 - 7 ] Burials, 1815-1921 - VAULT BRITISH Film [ 2411318 Items 2 - 8 ] © 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. and are available from Family History Centers world wide in the usual way they will be digitized and indexed by NLW and GSU in 18 to 24 months Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Thank you all for the Bedwellty information. My grandfather was born there. He came to America when he was 5 yrs. old. He went to work in the coal mines of northeastern Pennsylvania at the age of 10 yrs. and had Black Lung by his 50's! The family name was Wall, Truscott and Stephens from the Mon. (Bedwellty area). I love the pictures of the area and can't wait to search the online records. Again, thank you so much for this. I can't easily get to Wales to do this on my own and it means so very much to me. God Bless, Janet USA Virginia ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hello Win, I looked at the 1881 again and it looks like South Wales but on the Census before and after 1881 his place of birth is placed as Guisborough Yorkshire. Regards Barbara

Hello Win, The child James was born in Yorkshire, in 1871 Census he was aged 7 months and it clearly shows Guisborough Yorkshire and not Monmouthshire. Regards Barbara

Hello Win, If you could let me know the names/ birthdates of those on census and the reference number and year of census I will check it myself on Ancestry. Regards Barbara

Hello Pat, I forgot to ask in my last email to you, do you mean the village of Bedwellty or Bedwellty the parish because it was a large parish, have you the named place within the parish. Regards Barbara

If you need early ones try here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/bedwellty/bedprt.htm best wishes Allison >From: "Pat" <pat.greetham2@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [MON] Bedwellty Parish >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:28:16 -0000 > >Hello, can anyone tell me where to find Parish Records for Bedwellty. > >And to any locals, how far is Bedwellty from Cardiff. > >Thank you >Pat > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:28:16 -0000 "Pat" <pat.greetham2@ntlworld.com> wrote: Hello Pat, > Hello, can anyone tell me where to find Parish Records for Bedwellty. GENUKI usually lists where such holdings are housed; http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Bedwellty/index.html#ChurchRecords Lists Gwent RO as the holders. > And to any locals, how far is Bedwellty from Cardiff. According to http://www.theaa.com it's about 19 miles. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Buy some love at the five and dime You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart - Eurythmics