Will contact you on your private email King Marjorie marje@adelaide.on.net On 01/10/2012, at 2:11 PM, The Lewis family wrote: > G'day everyone > > I have been keeping a very low profile over the last year or so although > I still read the postings with interest. As is so often the case in > genealogy I need help to solve a problem. Quite by chance I came across > a reference to Sarah Ann Lewis which could be my great grandmother. > > Let me make it clearer. I lost sight of her after the 1901 Census. She > is one of the numerous Lewis family from Pontypool who bore a son, my > grandfather. He was brought up as her brother as she was only 17 when he > was born and there were numerous siblings younger than her. A family > story has her marrying a wealthy, ex-military officer whose name has > never been mentioned. She was born about 1860 and the reference has a > Sarah Ann Lewis, spinster, late of Plasmont, Monmouthshire, who died on > 21 October 1936. Her will was executed and a notice in the London > Gazette gives a date of 1 April 1937 for full probate. Is there a way in > which I can obtain a copy of her will? What I want to know is, first is > it my long-lost grandmother and second, if it is her, where had she > been all those years since 1916 when her son died, leaving a widow and > two sons? I know from my late father that they had a difficult childhood > and if family stories are correct she was a well off woman. > > Can anyone help? > > Regards > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a little hiccup in my recent email. Due, no doubt to copying and pasting. Never works properly does it? The url for Ancestry is out of place. It is NOT free. Best wishes Graham At 03:34 PM 1/10/2012, you wrote: >Hi. Ancestry.com should give you the index references for the probate >for 1937, from which you ought to be able to take that information >and apply for the will at the Probate Registry. For further >information go to >"<http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills>http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills > >I have applied for many wills from Australia and have found each and >every one to have been worth the while. State Libraries also have >microfiche or microfilm of the probate indexes from which you may >glean the details which include where and when the deceased died or >last known address and date, profession, age, whether probate or >administration and the names and addresses of executors. > >If you do not have Ancestry.com at home on your computer, many >libraries in Australia both State, Family History Societies, and LDS >(Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) will have it for free >at ><http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904>http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 > >otherwise some kind soul on the list may check it out for you and >find the references. > >Good fortune in your searching. >Graham >Melbourne >Oz > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. Ancestry.com should give you the index references for the probate for 1937, from which you ought to be able to take that information and apply for the will at the Probate Registry. For further information go to "<http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills>http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills I have applied for many wills from Australia and have found each and every one to have been worth the while. State Libraries also have microfiche or microfilm of the probate indexes from which you may glean the details which include where and when the deceased died or last known address and date, profession, age, whether probate or administration and the names and addresses of executors. If you do not have Ancestry.com at home on your computer, many libraries in Australia both State, Family History Societies, and LDS (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) will have it for free at <http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904>http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 otherwise some kind soul on the list may check it out for you and find the references. Good fortune in your searching. Graham Melbourne Oz

Ancestry's probate calendar has this person leaving an estate of around £11,000. Probate was granted 1st January 1937; the executors were William Alfred Lewis of no occupation and Miriam Pritchard, wife of Alfred Pritchard. There is a Sabrah A Lewis in the 1911 census. Eira

G'day everyone I have been keeping a very low profile over the last year or so although I still read the postings with interest. As is so often the case in genealogy I need help to solve a problem. Quite by chance I came across a reference to Sarah Ann Lewis which could be my great grandmother. Let me make it clearer. I lost sight of her after the 1901 Census. She is one of the numerous Lewis family from Pontypool who bore a son, my grandfather. He was brought up as her brother as she was only 17 when he was born and there were numerous siblings younger than her. A family story has her marrying a wealthy, ex-military officer whose name has never been mentioned. She was born about 1860 and the reference has a Sarah Ann Lewis, spinster, late of Plasmont, Monmouthshire, who died on 21 October 1936. Her will was executed and a notice in the London Gazette gives a date of 1 April 1937 for full probate. Is there a way in which I can obtain a copy of her will? What I want to know is, first is it my long-lost grandmother and second, if it is her, where had she been all those years since 1916 when her son died, leaving a widow and two sons? I know from my late father that they had a difficult childhood and if family stories are correct she was a well off woman. Can anyone help? Regards

Me again There is a youtube film about William Alfred Lewis, known as Dripping Lewis who was murdered on 24th May 1939. He lived at Plasmont, Pontypool. There is also a book written about him which may be worth following up if Sarah is your relation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwFcisWAW-A There is a link here to a story in the Free Press about the murder http://www.freepressseries.co.uk/news/9213850.Pontypool_Townscape_probes_the _strange_case_of_who_killed_Dripping_Lewis_/ Mr Lewis had a sister Miriam (Pritchard) who was one of the executors to Sarah's will, so the same family, but is it yours? He also left a substantial amount of money. Sarah Ann Lewis was living with her mother Miriam and siblings in Plasmont in 1901 and with Miriam and Alfred Pritchard in Law Courts? Hotel, Cardiff in 1911. Steve -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Lewis family Sent: 01 October 2012 05:42 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Wills and Probate - help wanted G'day everyone I have been keeping a very low profile over the last year or so although I still read the postings with interest. As is so often the case in genealogy I need help to solve a problem. Quite by chance I came across a reference to Sarah Ann Lewis which could be my great grandmother. Let me make it clearer. I lost sight of her after the 1901 Census. She is one of the numerous Lewis family from Pontypool who bore a son, my grandfather. He was brought up as her brother as she was only 17 when he was born and there were numerous siblings younger than her. A family story has her marrying a wealthy, ex-military officer whose name has never been mentioned. She was born about 1860 and the reference has a Sarah Ann Lewis, spinster, late of Plasmont, Monmouthshire, who died on 21 October 1936. Her will was executed and a notice in the London Gazette gives a date of 1 April 1937 for full probate. Is there a way in which I can obtain a copy of her will? What I want to know is, first is it my long-lost grandmother and second, if it is her, where had she been all those years since 1916 when her son died, leaving a widow and two sons? I know from my late father that they had a difficult childhood and if family stories are correct she was a well off woman. Can anyone help? Regards ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi The article in the Gazette gives the date of probate as 1st January 1937 not April. You'll need the correct date when ordering the will Steve -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Lewis family Sent: 01 October 2012 05:42 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Wills and Probate - help wanted G'day everyone I have been keeping a very low profile over the last year or so although I still read the postings with interest. As is so often the case in genealogy I need help to solve a problem. Quite by chance I came across a reference to Sarah Ann Lewis which could be my great grandmother. Let me make it clearer. I lost sight of her after the 1901 Census. She is one of the numerous Lewis family from Pontypool who bore a son, my grandfather. He was brought up as her brother as she was only 17 when he was born and there were numerous siblings younger than her. A family story has her marrying a wealthy, ex-military officer whose name has never been mentioned. She was born about 1860 and the reference has a Sarah Ann Lewis, spinster, late of Plasmont, Monmouthshire, who died on 21 October 1936. Her will was executed and a notice in the London Gazette gives a date of 1 April 1937 for full probate. Is there a way in which I can obtain a copy of her will? What I want to know is, first is it my long-lost grandmother and second, if it is her, where had she been all those years since 1916 when her son died, leaving a widow and two sons? I know from my late father that they had a difficult childhood and if family stories are correct she was a well off woman. Can anyone help? Regards ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I have need of the services of the Register Office in Abergavenny. Their web site refers to methods of payment as Postal Order, cash, debit or credit card. Most obviously missing, is "cheque". Is this just an oversight, or do they really mean it? I'll phone and ask Monday, but on the off-chance somebody knows.... -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses

Hello all. Can someone please help, My Great Grandmother Miriam Moses born Nanty Glo. About 1824, living with Martha Moses 10 months (sister or daughter?) and Howell and Sarah Powell (possibly potential inlaws) married David Powell, Llanelly Parish Church,Brecon July 8 1846 , I am trying to find out where Miriam and Martha were before those dates and any details at all. Roy in Queensland

Thank you Jon. On 9/20/2012 12:16 AM, Jon wrote: > Gillian, > Click the advanced search button on ancestry and the results will be much more user friendly. > All the best, > Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

could sks please find me William Morgan in Bedwelty, with Ann Williams in 1861 and if poss 1851 too.  He is the father of Margaret Morgan born in1855, Bedwelty. cheerio Irene

G'day Ray, Thanks for the suggestion. I have looked on Ancestry and Find My Past for Thomas, Gwenllian and Charles in 1841. I cannot find any of them on either. There is one Gwenllian married to a Daniel, so not a match. Ancestry has changed their site and it is much more time consuming and I find it lacks a lot of information so is quite frustrating. The same can be said for Find My Past as well. Cheers, Gillian Melbourne On 9/19/2012 4:47 PM, The Lewis family wrote: > G'day Gilian > > Have you tried the 1841 Census? I realise that it wouldn't be easy to > find him but if you search for his mother, Gwenllian, there seems to be > only one in the 1841 census of England and Wales. I don't have full > access to Ancestry at present but if you haven't followed the trail > maybe it might be rewarding. > > Ray Lewis > Hazelmere Western Australia > > On 19/09/2012 11:03 AM, Gillian wrote: >> Thank you Dawn. > <snipped> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Gillian, Click the advanced search button on ancestry and the results will be much more user friendly. All the best, Jon

G'day Gilian Have you tried the 1841 Census? I realise that it wouldn't be easy to find him but if you search for his mother, Gwenllian, there seems to be only one in the 1841 census of England and Wales. I don't have full access to Ancestry at present but if you haven't followed the trail maybe it might be rewarding. Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia On 19/09/2012 11:03 AM, Gillian wrote: > Thank you Dawn. <snipped>

Thank you Dawn. I had found this record recently and because the 1851 Census has his birth as 1813 was unsure about it, but it could very well be him as I find dates and places seem to be different for people in the different Census years. At this point I think I will go with this because he named one son Charles. Cheers, Gillian On 9/19/2012 5:44 AM, Dawn Cumbley wrote: > Hi Gilliam > > Maybe this is the one?? From The Family Search site. > > Thomas Lawrence > England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 > christening: 25 Mar 1817 ST MELLONS,​MONMOUTH,​ENGLAND > parents: Charles Lawrence,​ Gwenllian > > name: Thomas Lawrence > gender: Male > baptism/christening date: 25 Mar 1817 > baptism/christening place: ST MELLONS,MONMOUTH,ENGLAND > father's name: Charles Lawrence > mother's name: Gwenllian > indexing project (batch) number: C02399-1 > system origin: England-ODM > source film number: 104914 > > Regards > Dawn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gillian > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:13 PM > To: Monmouthshire List > Subject: [MON] Help please with LAWRENCE Family > > Hello everyone, > > I am hoping someone on the ground there or through better searching > knowledge than I have can help. I am trying to gain information on my > GGGGrandfather Thomas LAWRENCE. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

________________________________ From: The Lewis family <lewisfamily@iinet.net.au> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012, 7:47 Subject: Re: [MON] Help please with LAWRENCE Family G'day Gilian Have you tried the 1841 Census? I realise that it wouldn't be easy to find him but if you search for his mother, Gwenllian, there seems to be only one in the 1841 census of England and Wales. I don't have full access to Ancestry at present but if you haven't followed the trail maybe it might be rewarding. Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia On 19/09/2012 11:03 AM, Gillian wrote: > Thank you Dawn. <snipped> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I am hoping someone on the ground there or through better searching knowledge than I have can help. I am trying to gain information on my GGGGrandfather Thomas LAWRENCE. I have found him and his family in the 1851 Census. According to that he was born in St. Mellons about 1813. His wife Jane was born in Newport about 1823. I have matched Jane and Thomas in a marriage in 1843 and her maiden name is EVANS. They have 4 sons, Edwin 1845, John F 1847, Charles 1849 and Thomas 1851. I have been able to move forward and find information on some of their children, particularly Thomas LAWRENCE born 1851 - my GGGrandfather. In the 1861 Census two daughters have been born after four sons. Jane is now widowed so I think Thomas has died between 1858 and 1861 because Mary Jane is only 2 years of age. Thomas and his 4 sons were Colliers and Thomas worked in Glamorganshire for a period of time where Edwin was born. Between the 1861 and 1871 Census Jane died as the young Thomas and Caroline are living with Edwin the oldest son of Thomas senior. If anyone can help me with information about Thomas LAWRENCE prior to the 1851 census, ie, his parents or birth/baptism or death information I would be very grateful. Or any other information about Jane would be appreciated. I hope I haven't overloaded you with too much information as this is the first request for me and I am so glad I found this help group. I can provide more info or attach the census docs if required. Cheers, Gillian Melbourne

Hi Gilliam Maybe this is the one?? From The Family Search site. Thomas Lawrence England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 25 Mar 1817 ST MELLONS,​MONMOUTH,​ENGLAND parents: Charles Lawrence,​ Gwenllian name: Thomas Lawrence gender: Male baptism/christening date: 25 Mar 1817 baptism/christening place: ST MELLONS,MONMOUTH,ENGLAND father's name: Charles Lawrence mother's name: Gwenllian indexing project (batch) number: C02399-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 104914 Regards Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Gillian Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:13 PM To: Monmouthshire List Subject: [MON] Help please with LAWRENCE Family Hello everyone, I am hoping someone on the ground there or through better searching knowledge than I have can help. I am trying to gain information on my GGGGrandfather Thomas LAWRENCE.

Thanks Steve I did go to the church one time but it was locked and the minister was on holiday and couldn’t find anyone with a key . The photos are brilliant just what I need to go with his soldiers record its so interesting reading his record. He was but in 14 days detention one time for wearing another soldiers boots and my mother had said that my grandmother had to send him another pair He served from 16 April 1914 and died on April 12 1918 no known grave but was in battle where out of 500 only 150 survived. He died in Belgium and is on a panel there and I have photos of this because my daughter took her children there to see it so it will be really lovely to add the Trevethin once as well . He was born in Hampshire and the family moved to Blaenavon for work and after his death moved to Neath where I live Thank you again Althea -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Veysey Sent: 18 September 2012 16:58 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] Trevethin Church Sent some images offline Steve ________________________________ From: althea.john <althea.john@ntlworld.com> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012, 15:43 Subject: [MON] Trevethin Church Does any have a photo they could send of the world war 1 soldiers plaque which is in the church my great uncle Clifford John Mills is on it ? Thanks Althea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent some images offline Steve ________________________________ From: althea.john <althea.john@ntlworld.com> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2012, 15:43 Subject: [MON] Trevethin Church Does any have a photo they could send of the world war 1 soldiers plaque which is in the church my great uncle Clifford John Mills is on it ? Thanks Althea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message