I'm looking for info about George Henry Johnson was born 5 Dec, 1882. 12 Fisher Road, Birkdale, U.S.D. I have no idea what the U.S.D. and I don't know if address is place of birth or a later residence, but it's a place to start The newly discovered note is attached to a map which shows a Birkdale about half way between Liverpool and Blackpool on the west coast of England I've just started to become brave enough to try researching British records which, from my home in Canada, always appeared to be like a black hole. From what I can tell, most British info is organized by county, so even getting a county name for this location would be a start. Then with names of his siblings and parents, maybe I can tie it all together with some census info -- Brian Johnson, P. Eng Johnson Engineering Consultants http://johnson-engineering.ca Ontario, Canada

Dear Listers, One of my favourite websites has always been www.old-maps.co.uk/ which provided free images of superb large-scale (1:10,560) nineteenth century Ordnance Survey maps of the UK. I visited the website yesterday and was shocked to find that the home page had received a "makeover" and that the search facility and gazetteer were not functioning. I reported the fault to Old-Maps and this morning I received the following explanation: ------------- Good Morning Thank you for contacting www.old-maps.co.uk We are experiencing a few problems at the moment but aim to resume full working order as soon as we can. Apologies for the inconvenience this may of caused. Kind regards The Old-Map Team --------------- This morning, the search facility seems to be working (it, too, has suffered a makeover!) but the essential zoom facility doesn't work, so one cannot access the full-sized map images. I assume these problems are of a temporary nature, resulting from the changes in the design of the webpages. Perhaps it is premature for me to criticise, but my first impression is that while the new design *looks* very nice, it does not perform as well as the old one. Have a look for yourself and see what you think. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

Is anyone searching the Evan D. Jones and Mary Ann Jones from Rhymney? Would very much like to find an address for this family. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Barbara, I have all of the census records including 1871.My g-g grandmother was a widow by then and five of the children were with her-address was 6 3rd Row George Town,Tredegar.The 1861 census indicates that James was married and his wife's name was Elizabeth.Edwin also was married and his wife's name was Mary-address was 60 Morgan st. Bedwellty,Tredegar.They were Iron Puddlers.I live in Sharon,Pa.--what local newspapers? Thanks for responding Joan Dunlavey ----- Original Message ---- From: "B1oatley@aol.com" <B1oatley@aol.com> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:34:03 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Richard Griffiths Bedwellty 1850 Hello Joan, It could be that another lister may be researching your Ancestral family, but other than that possibly best to place an advert in a local Newspaper to find living family. Have you looked at any Census records for the siblings and located any marriage records for them, which area of Bedwellty were they living. Regards Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Joan, It could be that another lister may be researching your Ancestral family, but other than that possibly best to place an advert in a local Newspaper to find living family. Have you looked at any Census records for the siblings and located any marriage records for them, which area of Bedwellty were they living. Regards Barbara

In a message dated 4/10/2007 11:35:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, XRhiannonPricex@aol.com writes: What is the Carmarthan Listing address? ========== Hi, Rhiannon. Here is the link to the Carmarthenshire Mailing List: _RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: Wales : CARMARTHENSHIRE_ (http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/CARMARTHENSHIRE.html) Regards, Cecil ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My apologies to you and the List Ann, I read the reply made to the List before I read your mail to the List regarding the closure of this topic. Regards, Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Macey" <annmacey@ntlworld.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [MON] more charges-topic closed > This is not a topic for this list - at least not the way it is shaping up > so as List Admin I am saying that this topic is closed. Please do NOT send > your resons for disgagreeing to the list, you can send them to me > personally. I will read them. > > Ann Macey > List Admin > >

I think this is the wrong attitude to take Mr Bates. We are all tax-payers wherever in the world we live. I think that Jean Smith was bellyaching about the amount of charges that keep on getting higher and higher. The charges made by these councils are indeed getting bigger by the day and I think that a photocpopy by a record office should come into the realms of the service that place carries out, but by charging to use one's own equipment is taking it too far. I think the problem of charging by the councils should be addressed by the 'fat-cat' salaries some of these high ranking officials are so called earning. You're not one of these fat-cat salary high ranking council officials are you Mr Bates? These places will not allow some documents to be photocopied by the usual means as they say that the bright light damages them, strange how the British Library (I think) has a large A0 scanner and uses it all the time to copy damaged and aged documents! Regards, Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis Bates" <lewbat@tiscali.co.uk> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [MON] more charges > Why as an already overburdened rate payer why in heavens name should I > be asked to contribute for all sundry itinerant genealogist who are not > prepared to contribute towards the local storage of the archives, the > staff to man the office dealing with you and your queries on a regular > basis, answer your phone calls and the loss of income from the use of > digital cameras.( i.e photo copies) > > A digital camera can store up to some 4000 images. At £2.00 are getting > good value to photograph the records you want in warm comfortable quiet > surroundings. > Stop belly aching. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Smith > Sent: 09 April 2007 20:03 > To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MON] more charges > > What's with these councils and record offices > suddenly deciding that family history researchers > are a cash cow? Hot on the heels of Gwent RO > charging £2 a go to use your own resources > (digital camera), now comes Blaenau Gwent > charging £10 to search the municipal cemetery records! > > They're not providing much, if anything, for this > charge either - is it even legal? > > Those of us with ancestors all round the country > will soon find they have to abandon their hobby > as costs escalate if this carries on. > > IMHO, we shouldn't encourage the various bodies, > but campaign to get these charges reversed - the > admin alone will wipe out all any extra value, if > that's their argument. Put a donations box in, > but for goodness sake don't let's encourage > statutory bodies to think these charges are > acceptable - it's just making jobs for councils > etc, not giving us a better service. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: > 04/04/2007 13:09 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: > 04/04/2007 13:09 > > > >

Hello Jean et al, I agree with you that some councils are stepping on this 'money spinner', a bit like the speed camera issue. I went to a large cemetery in Burton-upon-Trent in Staffordshire to look for a grave, they clearly had a notice stating a search will cost £7.50 per half hour, I must have been there a good hour, I was issued a map of the said grave, a copy of the burial register and wasn't charged a penny, (sadly no marker though), I am presuming the charge was for telephone/distant requests. However, in Tamworth Staffordshire, I am not allowed anywhere near the cemeteries office but they will search them for me, although the register has been microfilmed and is in the local library for all to search for free, they will charge me £15 for the search, then another £13 to pinpoint it on a copy of the map for me, thats £28 to find a grave of an ancestor! That is disgusting, but as you say, we are becoming a 'cash cow'! I have done research in Newport Library rather than the RO at Cwmbrân, I have found that they are very helpful and go out of their way to assist in any way! Well done Newport Library !! Regards Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Smith" <luddite.jean@tiscali.co.uk> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [MON] more charges > What's with these councils and record offices suddenly deciding that > family history researchers are a cash cow? Hot on the heels of Gwent RO > charging £2 a go to use your own resources (digital camera), now comes > Blaenau Gwent charging £10 to search the municipal cemetery records! > > They're not providing much, if anything, for this charge either - is it > even legal? > > Those of us with ancestors all round the country will soon find they have > to abandon their hobby as costs escalate if this carries on. > > IMHO, we shouldn't encourage the various bodies, but campaign to get these > charges reversed - the admin alone will wipe out all any extra value, if > that's their argument. Put a donations box in, but for goodness sake don't > let's encourage statutory bodies to think these charges are acceptable - > it's just making jobs for councils etc, not giving us a better service. > > >

Hello Just wondering if anyone has any RIST's in their trees from Rhymney. I've got my line dating there until 1850s. I have a William Rist b 1820 in Essex, England. Rhiannon

Hello Just wondering if anyone has any DAVIES' in their trees from Rhymney. I've got my line dating there until 1850s. I have an Evan Davies b 1836 in Carmathen but can't trace back any further as of yet. Rhiannon PS What is the Carmarthan Listing address?

Hello Just wondering if anyone has any VAUGHAN's in their trees from Rhymney. I've got my line dating there until 1860s. I have a Thomas Vaughan b 1838 in Blaenavon but can't trace back any further as of yet. Rhiannon

Hello Just wondering if anyone has any PRICE's in their trees from Rhymney. I've got my line dating there until 1850s. I have a John Price b 1826 in Brecon but can't trace back any further as of yet. Rhiannon

Richard Griffiths Bedwellty 1850 searching for great grandfather'siblings,James,1837 Samuel,1843 Thomas,1845,Elizabeth,1846Eliza,1853.My great grandparents,William and Mary Ann nee Gardner immigrated to America in 1873.Hoping to find living relatives in Wales and any history of the family.Their parents were John and Elizabeth Griffiths Joan Dunlavey joandunlavey@verizon.net

This is not a topic for this list - at least not the way it is shaping up so as List Admin I am saying that this topic is closed. Please do NOT send your resons for disgagreeing to the list, you can send them to me personally. I will read them. Ann Macey List Admin

You're not he only ratepayer, you know. Your council tax covers all sorts of services that aren't paid for at source. Perhaps I should pay so much a day to send my child to school, pay per book when I use the library lending service? Give the refuse collectors £2 per bin collected? Where does it stop? A camera may be able to store 4000 images, but I can't photograph that many in a day, and staff time isn't taken up by requesting photocopies. I am on a budget, and I already pay council tax. Council tax payers are overburdened due to empire-building and waste, not because I want to photograph a few records in my spare time. Incidentally, to use the service, I have to take time off work, so that is already costing me money in addition to travelling costs. At 21:18 09/04/2007, you wrote: >Why as an already overburdened rate payer why in heavens name should I >be asked to contribute for all sundry itinerant genealogist who are not >prepared to contribute towards the local storage of the archives, the >staff to man the office dealing with you and your queries on a regular >basis, answer your phone calls and the loss of income from the use of >digital cameras.( i.e photo copies) > >A digital camera can store up to some 4000 images. At £2.00 are getting >good value to photograph the records you want in warm comfortable quiet >surroundings. >Stop belly aching. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Smith >Sent: 09 April 2007 20:03 >To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MON] more charges > >What's with these councils and record offices >suddenly deciding that family history researchers >are a cash cow? Hot on the heels of Gwent RO >charging £2 a go to use your own resources >(digital camera), now comes Blaenau Gwent >charging £10 to search the municipal cemetery records! > >They're not providing much, if anything, for this >charge either - is it even legal? > >Those of us with ancestors all round the country >will soon find they have to abandon their hobby >as costs escalate if this carries on. > >IMHO, we shouldn't encourage the various bodies, >but campaign to get these charges reversed - the >admin alone will wipe out all any extra value, if >that's their argument. Put a donations box in, >but for goodness sake don't let's encourage >statutory bodies to think these charges are >acceptable - it's just making jobs for councils >etc, not giving us a better service. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: >04/04/2007 13:09 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: >04/04/2007 13:09 > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - >Release Date: 08/04/2007 20:34

Why as an already overburdened rate payer why in heavens name should I be asked to contribute for all sundry itinerant genealogist who are not prepared to contribute towards the local storage of the archives, the staff to man the office dealing with you and your queries on a regular basis, answer your phone calls and the loss of income from the use of digital cameras.( i.e photo copies) A digital camera can store up to some 4000 images. At £2.00 are getting good value to photograph the records you want in warm comfortable quiet surroundings. Stop belly aching. -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Smith Sent: 09 April 2007 20:03 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] more charges What's with these councils and record offices suddenly deciding that family history researchers are a cash cow? Hot on the heels of Gwent RO charging £2 a go to use your own resources (digital camera), now comes Blaenau Gwent charging £10 to search the municipal cemetery records! They're not providing much, if anything, for this charge either - is it even legal? Those of us with ancestors all round the country will soon find they have to abandon their hobby as costs escalate if this carries on. IMHO, we shouldn't encourage the various bodies, but campaign to get these charges reversed - the admin alone will wipe out all any extra value, if that's their argument. Put a donations box in, but for goodness sake don't let's encourage statutory bodies to think these charges are acceptable - it's just making jobs for councils etc, not giving us a better service. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: 04/04/2007 13:09 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: 04/04/2007 13:09

What's with these councils and record offices suddenly deciding that family history researchers are a cash cow? Hot on the heels of Gwent RO charging £2 a go to use your own resources (digital camera), now comes Blaenau Gwent charging £10 to search the municipal cemetery records! They're not providing much, if anything, for this charge either - is it even legal? Those of us with ancestors all round the country will soon find they have to abandon their hobby as costs escalate if this carries on. IMHO, we shouldn't encourage the various bodies, but campaign to get these charges reversed - the admin alone will wipe out all any extra value, if that's their argument. Put a donations box in, but for goodness sake don't let's encourage statutory bodies to think these charges are acceptable - it's just making jobs for councils etc, not giving us a better service.

Thanks Hugh,I'm not very good at this and i'm amazed when someone gets all that information so quickly.Thanks for the information you sent,i'll take a look at it all.I can only seem to get back one generation and then i'm lost.Maybe i should go to geaneology classes to get my brain in gear.Thanks again Hugh ,Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Watkins" <jonesraglan@aol.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [MON] ENGLAND/HAWKINS > > On 8 Apr 2007, at 18:26, suzanne davies wrote: > >> Hello Robert,How on earth did you find all this information.I am so >> grateful >> to you,i didn't know where to start.Thankyou very much for all your >> help,this will certainly add another few branches to my tree.Suzanne >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 5:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [MON] ENGLAND/HAWKINS >> >> >>> Hi Suzanne >>> >>> In 1901 Frederick (who was born in Almondsbury, Gloucestershire in >>> about >>> 1875) > > snip > > Hullo Suzanne > > it looks like he used ancestry.co.uk > > http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx > > 1881 index is a freebie so experiment with that before spending money > > read > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History > > by ROY STOCKDILL > at > http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > borrow some of the books recommended from a library > > http://www.genuki.org.uk is an encyclopedia of the > GENealogy of the UK and Ireland > and welcome to our world wide community :-) > > a lot of this hobby is like slow motion detective work done by > following standard procedures and testing the quality of the evidence > > regards > > Hugh W > > -- > > a wonderful artist in Denmark > http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ > > Beta blogger > http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks > > old blogger GENEALOGE > http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 8 Apr 2007, at 18:26, suzanne davies wrote: > Hello Robert,How on earth did you find all this information.I am so > grateful > to you,i didn't know where to start.Thankyou very much for all your > help,this will certainly add another few branches to my tree.Suzanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MON] ENGLAND/HAWKINS > > >> Hi Suzanne >> >> In 1901 Frederick (who was born in Almondsbury, Gloucestershire in >> about >> 1875) snip Hullo Suzanne it looks like he used ancestry.co.uk http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx 1881 index is a freebie so experiment with that before spending money read Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History by ROY STOCKDILL at http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html borrow some of the books recommended from a library http://www.genuki.org.uk is an encyclopedia of the GENealogy of the UK and Ireland and welcome to our world wide community :-) a lot of this hobby is like slow motion detective work done by following standard procedures and testing the quality of the evidence regards Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG