Hello, I have BMD certificates in front of me for 1883,1895,1896 and the certificate for 1883 is Registration District is Merthyr Tydfil Sub-District Aberdare Counties of Glamorgan and Brecon Certificates for 1895,1896 Registration District is Bedwellty Sub-District Aberystruth Counties of Monmouthshire and Brecknock. So it appears that Brecon/Brec was correct. Regards Barbara

G'day list Is there anyone out there who (a) knows what schools existed in the Pontypool district between 1880 and 1890 and (b) what would have happened to their records? My grandparents would have attended school there some time between 1882 and 1890. It would help me greatly if I could find out about their schooling. Thanks in anticipation. Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia (where we had some rain earlier this week but are desperately in need of more, as is the rest of Oz) Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Davies <http://www.lostcousins.com/?ref=LC894461> http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461

Take a look at this page, it might be useful http://www.eggra.co.uk/ARCHIVES/School%20Records.htm Ann Macey List Admin in Sunny Newport Gwent

On 20 Apr, Ray Lewis <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Is there anyone out there who (a) knows what schools existed in the > Pontypool district between 1880 and 1890 and (b) what would have > happened to their records? On 20 Apr, kevin mccormack <cardiff2cork@hotmail.com> wrote: > I wouldn't of thought records from that time were kept. Unless > one of them like one of mine were lucky enough to be in an orphanage > and ind. school. > I would imagine the reords were incinerated. Hi Listers, School log books are often kept in County Record Offices. Some Victorian log books may even still be in schools. When the Mid-Glamorgan school, in which I was teaching, had its centenary, in 1978, I remember seeing the school log book from those times. Josephine -- Josephine's Books, Ian's Pages, The Clutton 'Do' and the Glamorganshire Canal. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Ray. I wouldn't of thought records from that time were kept. Unless one of them like one of mine were lucky enough to be in an orphanage and ind. school. I would imagine the reords were incinerated. Kevin Co Cork. Ireland. ( where its foggy ....and after leaving at 2.45 am this morning for a funeral in North Co Dublin I had to turn back at Co Tipperary 45kmh all the way! hence the bad mood ;-) ) >From: "Ray Lewis" <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> >Reply-To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [MON] School records - Pontypool and district >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:15:23 +0800 > >G'day list > >Is there anyone out there who (a) knows what schools existed in the >Pontypool district between 1880 and 1890 and (b) what would have happened >to >their records? My grandparents would have attended school there some time >between 1882 and 1890. It would help me greatly if I could find out about >their schooling. > >Thanks in anticipation. > >Ray Lewis >Hazelmere Western Australia (where we had some rain earlier this week but >are desperately in need of more, as is the rest of Oz) > >Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Davies > > <http://www.lostcousins.com/?ref=LC894461> >http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share folders without harming wildlife! http://www.communicationevolved.com/en-ie/

Dear David 'Gavilon' may well be Govilon http://tinyurl.com/yupcfp Not sure what 'Prce' might be though. Just had a look at the original image - I think it says 'Govilon, Brec (or Brecon)'. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Attride I am new to the Monmouthshire list. I am trying to trace the origin of: MARTIN WILLIAMS born ca 1809 who was in Glamorgan by 1841 and stayed there until he left for Pennsylvania ca 1872. Unfortunately the various census' list different places of birth: 1851 Brecon, Llanwenarth 1861 Llanelli, CMN 1871 Gavilon Prce Is anyone on this list familiar with Gavilon Prce? What parish would it be listed with?

Hi Sian, I found something similar. In 1870 and again in 1871, my g. grandfather took his dead infant children from Abertillery to be buried in Tredunnock. Quite a distance. He did this because there was a family plot in Tredunnock where his grandparents and g. grandparents were buried, together with other members of the family. This turned out very helpful to my research, as it confirmed the link between my g. grandfather and the rest of the family in Tredunnock. By 1887, when another child died, he had moved up to Brynmawr and no longer made the journey back to Tredunnock. All the rest of the family were buried in Brynmawr. Peter Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sian Mackey" <sian@swallowtail.org> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:12 PM Subject: [MON] New Bethel Mynyddislwyn burials > Several members of my great grandfather's family were buried in New > Bethel churchyard Mynyddislwyn around 1900. The puzzle for us is that we > know the family was living in Llanhilleth then and the headstone was > made in Abertillery. It seems a long way to go for a burial. We know one > of the funerals involved a two-horse hearse, which must have taken quite > a while to get all the way from Llanhilleth.Was there no other > non-conformist burial ground any nearer? Seems unlikely, but not > impossible. Or is there some other reason why families might have gone > to such lengths to be buried there? > > Sian Mackey. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Several members of my great grandfather's family were buried in New Bethel churchyard Mynyddislwyn around 1900. The puzzle for us is that we know the family was living in Llanhilleth then and the headstone was made in Abertillery. It seems a long way to go for a burial. We know one of the funerals involved a two-horse hearse, which must have taken quite a while to get all the way from Llanhilleth.Was there no other non-conformist burial ground any nearer? Seems unlikely, but not impossible. Or is there some other reason why families might have gone to such lengths to be buried there? Sian Mackey.

Hello List, I am new to the Monmouthshire list. I am trying to trace the origin of: MARTIN WILLIAMS born ca 1809 who was in Glamorgan by 1841 and stayed there until he left for Pennsylvania ca 1872. Unfortunately the various census' list different places of birth: 1851 Brecon, Llanwenarth 1861 Llanelli, CMN 1871 Gavilon Prce Is anyone on this list familiar with Gavilon Prce? What parish would it be listed with? Thanks so much! David Attride __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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I'm sure you've probably been through this process - but are you 100% sure the William Smith on the 1861 and the one on the 1871 are the same? I've been 'caught out' before with Smiths! The reason I ask is because between 1861 and 1871, William only aged 3 years, and Mary, his wife, only 3 years, although their daughter Margaret is the right age. Also his occupation has changed drastically, from Traffic Manager to Pitter. Mary's birthplace is the same, but his has moved from Westbury (sub-Mendip) to Devonshire - Westbury (near Wells) even isn't close to Devon. Sarah's age is also inconsistent, but that could be because the first Sarah died, and they had another daughter they named Sarah. I know our forebears could be a bit cavalier with their ages, but a difference of 7 years is quite a lot. That gives William's birth anywhere between 1817 and 1824, and Mary's from 1819 - 1826. He's on the 1841 in Aberystruth, district 8, living as a lodger, occupation hawker (I think). Do you have any documentary evidence that these two families are the same? -Jean. At 20:36 17/04/2007, you wrote: >Can any one please help as we appear to have hit a brick wall > >Unable to locate a William Smith who was born approximately 1817.. > >The 1861 census for Blaina Monmouthshire states that he was born in >Westbury Somerset.We have checked all the Parishes around Westbury >in Somerset to no avail. The 1871 Census Blaina Monmouthshire >states he was born in Devonshire.Unfortunately we cannot locate him >on the 1851 and he was deceased prior to the 1881 census..Any ideas >would be appreciated

Dear Val & John Your brick wall will be difficult to break down. However, if William Smith ws married, a copy of his marriage certificate will, hopefully, give his father's name and occupation. That might be helpful to you. Regards and keep on keeping on Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Davies http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Val & John Lewis Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 3:36 AM To: Somerset; monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] William Smith Can any one please help as we appear to have hit a brick wall Unable to locate a William Smith who was born approximately 1817.. The 1861 census for Blaina Monmouthshire states that he was born in Westbury Somerset.We have checked all the Parishes around Westbury in Somerset to no avail. The 1871 Census Blaina Monmouthshire states he was born in Devonshire.Unfortunately we cannot locate him on the 1851 and he was deceased prior to the 1881 census..Any ideas would be appreciated Val & John Lewis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <http://874612.sigclick.mailinfo.com/sigclick/09060C07/02004F01/034D0A211813 23.jpg>

Don't forget the Westbury in Gloucestershire - actually called Westbury on Severn Ann

Hi Val and John. I too, have a William SMITH in my tree but don't think he is 'yours'. Mine born in Pontypool in 1852 and ended up in Bundaberg in Australia. He did go on and marry Mary Ann COLEMAN form Blaina though! There are two Westburys in the West Country that I know of - Westbury in Wiltshire, not too far from Trowbridge. Westbury-on-Trym near to Bristol. I know its in Wiltshire, but could he have been from that one? Regards Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val & John Lewis" <val@chetwynd23.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Somerset" <ENG-SOMERSET-L@rootsweb.com>; <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:36 PM Subject: [MON] William Smith Can any one please help as we appear to have hit a brick wall Unable to locate a William Smith who was born approximately 1817.. The 1861 census for Blaina Monmouthshire states that he was born in Westbury Somerset.We have checked all the Parishes around Westbury in Somerset to no avail. The 1871 Census Blaina Monmouthshire states he was born in Devonshire.Unfortunately we cannot locate him on the 1851 and he was deceased prior to the 1881 census..Any ideas would be appreciated Val & John Lewis

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Ann Macey <annmacey@ntlworld.com> To: Joan Dunlavey <joandunlavey@verizon.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:52:47 AM Subject: Re: more information about Richard Griffiths To send a message to the list please send to Monmouthshire@rootsweb.com the admin address is only for use when there are problems with the list mail or with the list members. Ann Macey List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Dunlavey To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:33 AM Subject: more information about Richard Griffiths 1881 census-Richard Griffiths iron worker-wife Elizabeth nee Hamer-James Griffiths-1837-iron puddler-wifw-Elizabeth children-Mary A.,17 John 15 William,12 George,7,Agnis,2 adress-6 Polar Place-Samuel Griffiths,wife Mary Ann-children-John,13.Sarah Jane,10,Issac,3 Mary Hannah,1 adress,8 Third Row,South side,Bedwellty,Thomas Griffiths,wife Mary children,Elizabeth,7,John,5,James,3and Celia 5 mos.adress-Firdt Row,South side,Bedwellty.Any info appreciated

the one place I would look for records would be those of the church wardens to see if he helped maintain St Mary's church I was taken to use to visit my granny and remember the town well up to 1953 most buildings were of stone Usk Prison (designed by Thomas Henry Wyatt (1807-1880)), built in 1841 on the model of Pentonville paid for from London http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ folow the money trail http://www.monmouthshiregreenweb.co.uk/UskCivicSociety/index.html willbe able to tell you much more HM Borstal, Usk, Monmouthshire was later On 18 Apr 2007, at 02:36, Tanya Davis wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am new to the site and would be interested in finding out any and > all > information available on my fathers side of the family coming from > Usk, > Wales. > > Here is a bit of information that I have from a Welsh birth > certificate for > my Gr. Gr. Grandfather: > > Born 15 May 1841 at Usk > Name: William Price > Father: Edward Price Occupation-Mason > Mother: Martha Price (Maiden name: Morgan) > Edward Price was the person that gave the information for the Birth > Certificate. He listed his address as Church Street and information > was > gathered on 2 June 1841. > > William came to the US sometime before 21 May 1872, have been > unsuccessful > in finding any information about where he traveled from in the UK > and when > exactly. > he may have travelled from Liverpool to Canada and then south what work did he do? by this time bricks were being made locally one brick works in Raglan was owned by John Jones my Usk Granny's who leased the ground from the Beaufort Estate so there may be estate accounts of work done in Usk and who was paid for it > I would be interested in finding out if there are still houses on > Church > Street and how to find out exactly where they lived and also would > be most > interested in finding out about any buildings that might have been > constructed by my gr. Gr. Grandfather. Would there be any information > available about Masonry guilds?? > google maps Church St Usk, Monmouthshire NP15 UK http://maps.google.com/maps?num=100&hl=en&q=usk+%22church+street% 22&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&om=1&z=19&ll=51.702499,-2.901807&spn=0.001287,0.0021 59&t=h&iwloc=addr behind the church is the Priory purchased by Thomas Watkins (my great uncle) when the Beaufort estate was broken up and renovated into a victorian house more work for masons NB on older houses the original roof was of blue slate newer houses have red tiles in the satellite photo http://maps.google.com/maps?num=100&hl=en&q=usk+%22church+street% 22&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&om=1&z=18&ll=51.699028,-2.900509&spn=0.002573,0.0043 18&t=h is Usk Prison the cattle market used to be opposite and is now a car park go to http://maps.live.com/ get wales on the page enter church street usk and the marker is at the other end to gogle Hybrid is best not as good as google maps http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familyalbum/kusk.htm 1901 Jones William, mason, Castle street Williams John Albert, carpenter, Church street Davies Frances Maria (Mrs.), Red Lion P.R. Church street 1881 census keyword(s) mason usk 1881 Wales Census about Richard Morgan Name: Richard Morgan Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Usk, Monmouth, Wales Civil parish: Usk County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: Church Street <<<<<<<<<< Condition as to marriage: Married Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Mason Registration district: Pontypool Sub-registration district: Usk ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Morgan 58 Richard Morgan 55 t Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5257; Folio: 18; Page: 30; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342265. also masons w Record Fred Morgan Frederick, Elizabeth abt 1862 Raglan, Monmouth, Wales Son Raglan Monmouthshire View Record Frederick Morgan Elizabeth abt 1827 Raglan, Monmouth, Wales Head Raglan Monmouthshire View Record Richard Morgan abt 1826 Usk, Monmouth, Wales Usk Monmouthshire View Record William Morgan Leah abt 1848 Llanvihangel, Monmouth, Wales Head Raglan Monmouthshire View Record William Morgan Mary J. abt 1858 Usk, Monmouth, Wales Son in Law (Head) (Son-in-law) Trevethin Monmouthshire Edward Price Martha abt 1819 Usk, Monmouth, Wales Head Llanbaddock Monmouthshire View Record John Price Eliza abt 1813 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Head Usk Monmouthshire so may be too many sons and not enough work for al Hugh W -- a wonderful artist in Denmark http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/ Beta blogger http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks old blogger GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

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Hello everyone I am new to the site and would be interested in finding out any and all information available on my fathers side of the family coming from Usk, Wales. Here is a bit of information that I have from a Welsh birth certificate for my Gr. Gr. Grandfather: Born 15 May 1841 at Usk Name: William Price Father: Edward Price Occupation-Mason Mother: Martha Price (Maiden name: Morgan) Edward Price was the person that gave the information for the Birth Certificate. He listed his address as Church Street and information was gathered on 2 June 1841. William came to the US sometime before 21 May 1872, have been unsuccessful in finding any information about where he traveled from in the UK and when exactly. I would be interested in finding out if there are still houses on Church Street and how to find out exactly where they lived and also would be most interested in finding out about any buildings that might have been constructed by my gr. Gr. Grandfather. Would there be any information available about Masonry guilds?? As I said earlier, any and all information would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks in advance for your time and assistance! Kind regards, Tanya Davis Indianapolis, IN U.S.A

Can any one please help as we appear to have hit a brick wall Unable to locate a William Smith who was born approximately 1817.. The 1861 census for Blaina Monmouthshire states that he was born in Westbury Somerset.We have checked all the Parishes around Westbury in Somerset to no avail. The 1871 Census Blaina Monmouthshire states he was born in Devonshire.Unfortunately we cannot locate him on the 1851 and he was deceased prior to the 1881 census..Any ideas would be appreciated Val & John Lewis

Hello Llew there is a Hedley Hugh HODGES birth in 1907, Cardiff. [Freebmd.org.uk] As William had Hugh as a 2nd name, may be a possibility? Pam in New Zealand > Dear Listers, > In researching the branch of my family that descended through William > Hugh Derrick Hodges I have purchased his death certificate. It states that > he died in St. Cadock Hospital, Caerleon 1965 and that the informant was his > son H.H. Hodges who was living at 9 Merlin Crescent , Newport. Does anyone > have access to any records like phone books or electoral rolls of that date > or a little more recent that might give a clue as to what the H.H. stand > for. With thanks. Llew Hodges > Far North Queensland > Australia > >