Aha! Finally found him - his name in 1901 was Powell Edward (without the 's'), hence the possibility that is forename and surname were interposed. In fact that's EXACTLY what happened - if you examine the census return in details there's a (2) over the word Powell and a (1) over the word Edward so the enumerator recognised the error. His occupation is listed a general labourer and place of birth as Llanganten, an ancient parish in the Builth area which no longer exists. With that information the following is available from the censuses: 1871 Working as a farm labourer and lodging with the Jones family at Llangyfelach, Glamorgan. 1861 Working as a waggoner and general agricultural labourer and lodging with the Williams family in Llannon, Carmarthenshire 1851 Working as a servant with the Price family (farmers) in Llanelwedd, Radnorshire 1841 Living in Llanganten with his parents Edward, 45, and Marcy (sic), 40, plus siblings Mary, 3, Rees, 9, and Samuel and William, both 5. Of course this doesn't tie in with what you state regarding Mary's marriage to John Jones in 1844 when she would only have been 6 years old, nor the family living in Nantyglo. However no other Edward Powell that I could find comes near to the critical data of 'Llanganten 1829' so I'm assuming that this Edward Powell is not the correct one for your family and the 1901 data is a red herring. It's now worth looking for 'Edward Powell' in the early censuses for Nantyglo/Aberystruth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mary.howells1@tesco.net Hallo - thanks for your interest - we know its not Blane However on 1901 Census we found a Powell eDWARDS AGED 72 BORN 1829 INMATE AT aSYLUM IN bUILTH bRECONSHIRE.It says born in Llangenten - which could be anywhere in Wales!!!! It questions the fact that he may have is name wrong way round - however on the marriage certificate of his daughter Mary it says fatheer POwell Edwards farmer. > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mary.howells1@tesco.net > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married a > John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident > at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826.

G'day everyone I haven't yet had a reply from my local booksellers, they are pretty good, so I will hang fire until I do. Bookrings are a great idea, I spent 20 years as a teacher/librarian here in Oz and used the principle in book promotions regularly. Perhaps the best idea would be for us to start a bookring for the book in the various countries in which we all reside. There must be a fairly large number of Monmouthshire listers who are resident in OZ, USA, Canada, etc. That way the book gets a wide reading audience, the author will receive a royalty for the various copies, and the people get to read the book a little faster than using a single copy. Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia where it's supposed to be raining but there's a lot of blue in the sky seen from my study window. Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Davies http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Smith Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2007 6:14 AM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] A Bookring If you send a book, and marked it "Printed Papers", the cost of posting from the UK to the US is cheaper, for instance, airmail "Printed Papers" for a 200 gram book is £2.62, but it must not include a letter. -Jean. At 16:16 05/05/2007, you wrote: >On 5/5/07 8:59 AM, "Michael P. Thompson" <thompson@ecentral.com> wrote: > > > On 5/5/07 2:58 AM, "Ray Lewis" <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > > >> I'd love to read the book but it would cost an arm and a leg to post it. > >> I'll see if I can get a copy locally. > > > > I'd have the same problem. It sounds like a fun idea, but in a world > > wide forum such as this, the postage might be more than the cost of the book. > >Maybe I spoke too soon. Amazon wants US$50 for a used copy. Amazon UK >has one for £14.99, but with shipping to the US, that's not a whole lot better. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <http://874612.sigclick.mailinfo.com/sigclick/0F060507/0600450E/014D03971117 29.jpg>

Hallo - thanks for your interest - we know its not Blane However on 1901 Census we found a Powell eDWARDS AGED 72 BORN 1829 INMATE AT aSYLUM IN bUILTH bRECONSHIRE.It says born in Llangenten - which could be anywhere in Wales!!!! It questions the fact that he may have is name wrong way round - however on the marriage certificate of his daughter Mary it says fatheer POwell Edwards farmer. Mary> > From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> > Date: 2007/05/05 Sat PM 04:21:08 BST > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards > > Found 10 or 12 Mary Edwards in Monmouthshire in the 1841 census - none > living in Nantyglo and none with a father called Powell. > > Couldn't find a Powell Edwards anywhere - is it possible his name could have > been Howell or Hywel? > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mary.howells1@tesco.net > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married a > John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident > at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ann answered this yesterday as follows: -----Original Message----- You receive the book, read it and pass it on. You can put a note in with the book for the next reader. The book is registered on bookcrossing.com so it has its own journal and each reader can put their note there too. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Bagshaw Sorry to ask such a simple question, but what is a bookring?

Sorry to ask such a simple question, but what is a bookring? Caroline ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael P. Thompson <thompson@ecentral.com> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 6 May, 2007 4:44:22 AM Subject: Re: [MON] A Bookring On 5/5/07 8:51 PM, "Ray Lewis" <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Perhaps the best idea would be for us to start a bookring for the book in > the various countries in which we all reside. Perhaps Ann has already started a bookring and doesn't need all of us telling her what's wrong with it. Ann, I registered for the forum, but I do not have posting privileges or private messaging. I'm not sure why. I would love to participate in this bookring, assuming you meant to include such of us so far away as the U.S. When I can figure out how to work the IM feature, I'll send you my address. -- We will not forget! www.remember-9-11.com www.ciarancummings.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

If you send a book, and marked it "Printed Papers", the cost of posting from the UK to the US is cheaper, for instance, airmail "Printed Papers" for a 200 gram book is £2.62, but it must not include a letter. -Jean. At 16:16 05/05/2007, you wrote: >On 5/5/07 8:59 AM, "Michael P. Thompson" <thompson@ecentral.com> wrote: > > > On 5/5/07 2:58 AM, "Ray Lewis" <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > > >> I'd love to read the book but it would cost an arm and a leg to post it. > >> I'll see if I can get a copy locally. > > > > I'd have the same problem. It sounds like a fun idea, but in a world wide > > forum such as this, the postage might be more than the cost of the book. > >Maybe I spoke too soon. Amazon wants US$50 for a used copy. Amazon UK has >one for £14.99, but with shipping to the US, that's not a whole lot better.

Dear Ann This was still the custom in the 1980s in Blaina. My grandfather died in 1981 and my cousin Helen and myself were the only women at the graveside amongst the men of the family. My grandmother, my mother and her sisters did not join us. My grandmother had no thought of going to the grave. Helen and I had left South Wales in the 1960s and were used to other customs and as we both wanted to go we were 'allowed'. I am not sure if this custom extended to crematorium committals. When my grandmother was cremated in Pontypool in 1988 the place was full of women. The situation was pretty similar with regard to pubs too I seem to remember!! Best wishes Anne -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ann Roberts Sent: 02 May 2007 15:53 To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] burial traditions When I was in my teens I was told that no women were allowed to attend my father's funeral - and this included my mother. I must admit that I thought that this was a tall story however, on visiting Blaina last week, I was told that this was an old tradition in South Wales. Can anyone tell my why? Was it a case of what we would call nowadays - men did the important things and the women stayed at home with the children - I don't know how else to express it. Strange idea Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 5/5/07 8:51 PM, "Ray Lewis" <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Perhaps the best idea would be for us to start a bookring for the book in > the various countries in which we all reside. Perhaps Ann has already started a bookring and doesn't need all of us telling her what's wrong with it. Ann, I registered for the forum, but I do not have posting privileges or private messaging. I'm not sure why. I would love to participate in this bookring, assuming you meant to include such of us so far away as the U.S. When I can figure out how to work the IM feature, I'll send you my address. -- We will not forget! www.remember-9-11.com www.ciarancummings.com

Hi List I am researching one of my cousins families, and i would dearly love to be able to add the rest of John Henry WILLIAMS children to my data base for Ashlee. John Henry WILLIAMS was the most decorated Soldier of the First World War. John Henry WILLIAMS was born in Nantyglo Monmouthshire on the 19th September 1886 He married Gertrude WILLIAMS born 1888 Tredegar Monmouthshire in 1908 In total I believe (from the information supplied by the website that is about him http://www.willys-mb.co.uk/vc.htm) he had 10 children. I know his first child was Doris E born 1909 and died 1910 and his last child was Bertha WILLIAMS born 1926. I would love to be able to fill in the other 8 children's names. As you all would be aware with the mothers name not appearing in the BDM's until mid 1911 the first couple of children are hard to find, but, trying to find the names of the other children with both the Fathers surname as WILLIAMS and the mothers maiden name as WILLIAMS it is a daunting task trying to find these children from Australia. Is there anyone in Monmouthshire that has any suggestions on how i can narrow the fields to find the missing 8 children ? Ashlee is the great granddaughter of John Henry Williams and trying to get info from her mum Shirley is not easy. Shirley is not interested at all in Genealogy. Hoping someone can help me Regards Barb In Sydney Australia

There's a saying on the South Wales coast, especially on the Gower peninsula, that if you can see the North coast of Devon very clearly more than 20 miles away across the Bristol Channel then it's about to rain........and if you can't see it, then it's already raining. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JANLWH@aol.com My grandmother, raised in the Aberdare area, told me that "if it wasn't raining in Wales when you got up in the morning, it was going to."

I know that you have already had a separate reply from me but just thought that I would add my thoughts on the group page. I think that it is a great idea, perhaps not for the people living abroad but definitely for the UK. Ann Roberts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Macey" <annmacey@ntlworld.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MON] A Bookring > The whole point is that everyone shares the same copy, you make a journal > entry for the book at > > http://www.bookcrossing.com/home > > because the book has been registered there. You get to see the author's > signature in the front of the book because it is a signed copy, and all > for > the cost of posting it on to the next person on the list. > I just thought it would be something different that would tell us a bit > about the valley life of our ancestors, something we could share for the > cost of postage. > > I do bookrings quite often so I do know about them > > Ann > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The whole point is that everyone shares the same copy, you make a journal entry for the book at http://www.bookcrossing.com/home because the book has been registered there. You get to see the author's signature in the front of the book because it is a signed copy, and all for the cost of posting it on to the next person on the list. I just thought it would be something different that would tell us a bit about the valley life of our ancestors, something we could share for the cost of postage. I do bookrings quite often so I do know about them Ann

On Sat, 05 May 2007 09:16:12 -0600 "Michael P. Thompson" <thompson@ecentral.com> wrote: Hello Michael, > Maybe I spoke too soon. Amazon wants US$50 for a used copy. Amazon UK > has one for £14.99, but with shipping to the US, that's not a whole Try these people; http://www.abebooks.com Three results. Admittedly, the pricing isn't good for the US based copy (it's one of the ones on Amazon). The site is worth keeping an eye on for OOP books. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You're only 29 got a lot to learn Seventeen - Sex Pistols

This will be the same as Blaine Edwards in the 1851 census with wife Jane and children Margaret, John and Thomas. Address 27 Colliers Row, Bedwellty Blaine was born Llanbrymair, Montgomeryshire Jane was born Llanbadarnfawr, Cardiganshire Margaret's occupation listed as 'tipping cinders'! Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of patrick keane Sent: 05 May 2007 16:35 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards Closest I could find 1841. Bedwelty: Plane Edwards 45 Miner not born in county Mary 35 "" Mary 16 "" Ann 14 born in county Margaret 11 "" John 8 "" Thomas 1 "" Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: <mary.howells1@tesco.net> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: [MON] powell edwards > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married > a John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were > resident at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day Ann I'd love to read the book but it would cost an arm and a leg to post it. I'll see if I can get a copy locally. Regards Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname Interests in Monmouthshire: Jones; Lewis; Davies http://www.LostCousins.com/?ref=LC894461 -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Macey Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2007 4:24 PM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] A Bookring I have a copy of "We Shall Sing again" by Marguerite Shaw. The publisher's blurb is as follows "On February 6th 1890 there was a violent explosion in Llanerch Colliery, near Pontypool in Gwent, which had a long lasting effect on the lives of the valley community. A hundred years later Marguerite Shaw has written a moving novel based on this historical event. her story spans the years from 1890 to 1914 and is told through the eyes of Robbie, the son of Daniel Watkins, whose family life was changed by the disaster that day. It is the story of life in a South Wales valley at the turn of the century. I want to start a Bookring with this book where I send it to the first person on the list. They read it and send it to the next person who reads it and so on. I have started a list here in the Monmouthshire part of the forum http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=27 but if you don't want to go there just email me privately and I will tell you more and put you on the list if you would like to join in. The only cost is the postage to send the book on to the next person. I am just trying to share what I have. Ann Macey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <http://874612.sigclick.mailinfo.com/sigclick/0D060701/00054D06/004D01151371 71.jpg>

Closest I could find 1841. Bedwelty: Plane Edwards 45 Miner not born in county Mary 35 "" Mary 16 "" Ann 14 born in county Margaret 11 "" John 8 "" Thomas 1 "" Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: <mary.howells1@tesco.net> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: [MON] powell edwards > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married > a John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were > resident at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Found 10 or 12 Mary Edwards in Monmouthshire in the 1841 census - none living in Nantyglo and none with a father called Powell. Couldn't find a Powell Edwards anywhere - is it possible his name could have been Howell or Hywel? Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mary.howells1@tesco.net Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married a John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826.

Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married a John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826.

Hi John, Have you the details of father for Henry listed on the marriage certificate, I have a feeling that the family I found in 1851 Brecon with Grandfather David and Grandmother Kezia is yours. I also found them in 1841 still living on the same farm which was named Cornwall which Jeff mentioned, this was before Henry was born. 1841 CENSUS David Pritchard Head age 50 Kezia Pritchard Wife age 45 David Pritchard Son age 20 (Possible father of Henry) Elizabeth Pritchard Daur age 15 Richard Pritchard Son age 15 Kezia Pritchard Daur age 10 Ann Pritchard Daur age 10 William Pritchard Son age 8 James Pritchard Son age 6 All born in County of Brecon. The ages on this Census was not always correct as you can see some were listed as same age but not twins, the enumerator rounded children's ages down by as much as 5 years. On the 1851 Census David junior was not living with family so could have been married and both the children Henry and Mary listed on the 1851 Census were staying with the grandparents at the farm. The only children listed in 1841 still at home in 1851 was Elizabeth, Richard, Anne, and James. If you obtain the marriage certificate and fathers name is David you have the correct family, but with Mary Hayes that will not be so easy to locate her records because of her being born in a different Country. Regards Barbara

Union Street and Iron Street could hardly be closer to each other as this map http://tinyurl.com/25sad2 shows. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B1oatley@aol.com And I searched for Henry in 1871 living around the Bedwellty area and found a Henry living in Union Street Tredegar with a James Pritchard and his wife, they have Henry listed as nephew but I believe that James was the elder brother aged 17 from the 1851 Census. Also located Mary Hayes in 1871 living with the Morgan family at 24, Iron Street Tredegar she was a servant and the building was the Talbot Inn.