Hi Alun, I looked at that option prior to your email and your Ancestor was not listed on Kelly's 1901 either as a Commercial or Private resident, and if he had been it would not have told you about any other occupant of the property. And he may well have lived there but if he was a tenant and not property owner he would not have been on the list. Regards Barbara

I thought it was about time I reposted my interests to the list in the hope of hammering down some of the brick walls that I'm surrounded by, so here goes - PRITCHARD Abergavenny 1870 - 1910 1881 Census - FHL Film 1342260, PRO Ref RG11, Piece 5235, Folio 8, Page 10 Mary Pritchard @ Tudor Street, Snooks Yard Children - Elizabeth, Mary (& John Kirby, Adopted) Also, FHL Film 1342260, PRO Ref RG11, Piece 5234, Folio 7, Page 7 Walter & Martha Pritchard @ Union Workhouse, Aberavenny Children of above Also, FHL Film 1342265, PRO Ref RG11, Piece 5257, Folio 24, Page 42 Thomas Pritchard @ HMP Usk, Maryport Street, Usk Nice stable family, eh? Best wishes Andrew

I have the regiment number for my great great grandfather. Can anyone tell me what information I can get and from where with this information? Rhiannon

And Name: Mary Bourne Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 600 John ----- Original Message ----- From: Couperthwaite To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: [MON] Help Needed Please - BOURNE Hi List I'm needing help with my family research. Plain stuck, stuck stuck. 3Xs stuck with three branches or families of the same tree all in Wales My first problem is: BOURNE family I have the marriage certificate for Isaac Edward CLAYDEN and Mary BOURNE 5 Dec 1914 Newport Monmouthshire. Isaac's side of the family I have chased back to the 1841 census........no problems there. Mary is another story. Here is what I have from the marriage certificate. She is a 19yo Spinster launderer living at 10 Lilleshall Rd, Newport. Father's name George His occupation: Bar cutter at Ironworks. Two witnesses: Edward William BOURNE and Caroline BOURNE. My problem is I don't find Mary BOURNE's birth 1895 anywhere....Wales or England. I don't find any census with Mary BOURNE b abt 1895 that would fit with what I have. I do find in the 1901 and 1891 census in Hampshire a family with Father George William, Mother Caroline and a son Edward William ........ No Mary. George is a gardener on both census. Any thoughts and help would be much appreciated. Thanks Cya Lynn in Sun Baked Queensland, Australia Sure a real job would be nice, but it would interfere with my genealogy. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lyn, These lost souls are usually the result of poor transcription. In ancestry 1901 Census of Wales I searched for Mary b1895, father George, in Monmouthshire.... 26 Gaskell Street George Bowne abt 1856 Wordsley, Worcestershire, England Head Newport Monmouthshire Matilda A Bowne abt 1859 Wolverhampton Wife Newport Monmouthshire Edward Bowne abt 1880 Wolverhampton Son Newport Monmouthshire Eliza A Bowne abt 1882 Wolverhampton Daughter Newport Monmouthshire Berlie Bowne abt 1884 Wolverhampton Son Newport Monmouthshire Alfred Bowne abt 1886 Wolverhampton Son Newport Monmouthshire William H Bowne abt 1888 Wolverhampton Son Newport Monmouthshire David Bowne abt 1890 Wolverhampton Son Newport Monmouthshire May Bowne abt 1893 Wolverhampton Daughter Newport Monmouthshire Mary Bowne abt 1895 Wolverhampton Daughter Newport Monmouthshire Maria Bowne abt 1897 Wolverhampton Daughter Newport Monmouthshire Nellie Bowne abt 1900 Wolverhampton Daughter Newport Monmouthshire Regards, John

here is the Kelly's directory for Monmouthshire for 1901 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familyalbum/kellys.htm I took a quick look but I'm tired and it's late Ann Macey in Newport Gwent ----- Original Message ----- From: <ALUN883@aol.com> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:52 PM Subject: [MON] Newbridge > Has any lister an electoral roll or Kellys directory for Newbridge from > about 1900-1920 which might inform me the occupant of Pantyryn., Newbridge > This > was the address given by a William Morgan when he registered the death of > his > mother in 1911. Hoping to establish who else was in the > household.Thankyou. > Alun > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I know it is a very expensive way of obtaining information, but given an address you can apply to the ONS for details of the 1911 census. This will not only tell you about the adults, but also any children. Details on their web site at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/1911census/ David HB -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of ALUN883@aol.com Sent: 14 May 2007 23:53 To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Newbridge Has any lister an electoral roll or Kellys directory for Newbridge from about 1900-1920 which might inform me the occupant of Pantyryn., Newbridge This was the address given by a William Morgan when he registered the death of his mother in 1911. Hoping to establish who else was in the household.Thankyou. Alun ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2266 (20070514) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 2266 (20070514) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Has any lister an electoral roll or Kellys directory for Newbridge from about 1900-1920 which might inform me the occupant of Pantyryn., Newbridge This was the address given by a William Morgan when he registered the death of his mother in 1911. Hoping to establish who else was in the household.Thankyou. Alun

Hello All, I've discovered a few Evans's of mine in Newport. If any lister has an interest in the name and originating from Linton, Herefordshire 1850's+ I'd like to hear from you. Best reagrds,Kevin. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

The 1881 census lists Thomas Griffiths and family in Uchlawrcoed.Rumney Tredegar.Wife.s name was Mary and children were Elizabeth,John.James and Celia.Adress was First Row,South side.Any information would be appreciated

If a death was registered for someone who was known by more than one surname, both were recorded in the index. Jeff

In a message dated 5/7/2007 3:16:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jeff.coleman@ntlworld.com writes: If a death was registered for someone who was known by more than one surname, both were recorded in the index. Jeff Hi Jeff, Thank You, I had no idea names were recorded like you said. I knew something was odd about the two names and I'm sure he is one of my Grandparents children. This is a big surprise for me! Thanks, Janet Roiter nee Powell ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello from Australia. William Richard TURPITT (a seaman) married Caroline DINHAM at St. Mary, Cardiff on 18 May 1858. There was 1 child, Edwin, born and died 1860 William later married Ann or Nancy Stewart Ross and died in 1888. I have those census details. Is anyone researching either TURPITT or DINHAM ? Thank you Cheers, Bob in Melbourne

This sounds very good. So comments are recorded from people who have no vested interest. That's usually a good way to assess it. Caroline ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Treharne Jones <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 6 May, 2007 8:59:33 AM Subject: Re: [MON] A Bookring Ann answered this yesterday as follows: -----Original Message----- You receive the book, read it and pass it on. You can put a note in with the book for the next reader. The book is registered on bookcrossing.com so it has its own journal and each reader can put their note there too. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Bagshaw Sorry to ask such a simple question, but what is a bookring? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

To any of you who live in the Nantyglo area - do you remember a Sarah Evangeline Davies, daughter of the Ffosmaen Inn. Born 1899 (no I know you are not that old). She returned to Nantyglo after the break up of her marriage to William Jelly from Blaina. It is thought that they were living in Oxford when the marriage broke up. Sarah died in Neville Hall Hospital, Abergavenny in 1984 after a fall in her home. Does anyone know if there were any children from that marriage? Thanks Ann

Dear Mary If I'd thought about it a little longer I would have realised that the 'Inmate in Builth' couldn't possibly have been Mary's father - according to your information that man was born three years after his daughter! There are several Mary Edwards born in 1826 +/- 1 and living in Bedwellty area and none living in the Aberystruth sub-district. One lived in Charlestown, Blackwood and another in Uchlawrcoed Another had a father who was a cordwainer Three had fathers who were colliers or miners Another was the daughter of a police superintendent! None of them had fathers with first names anything like Powell! The Parish Church of Aberystruth is St. Peter's, Blaina. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mary.howells1@tesco.net Sent: 06 May 2007 11:45 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com; monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards Hallo again - you brightened up our day!! - we have been trying to solve this for weeks - but still no where near a result. The marriage certificate of Mary definitely says that her name is MARY EDWARDS - I can understand they could have made a mistake with his name but we feel he should be a Edwards whatever his christian name may be!!! - do you agree? she married in the Parish Church of Aberystruth - where is this? (1844) Is it St. Peters Blaina or the church in Llanelly Breconshire Thanks Mary > > From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> > Date: 2007/05/06 Sun AM 11:02:39 BST > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards > > Aha! Finally found him - his name in 1901 was Powell Edward (without the > 's'), hence the possibility that is forename and surname were interposed. In > fact that's EXACTLY what happened - if you examine the census return in > details there's a (2) over the word Powell and a (1) over the word Edward so > the enumerator recognised the error. > > His occupation is listed a general labourer and place of birth as > Llanganten, an ancient parish in the Builth area which no longer exists. > > With that information the following is available from the censuses: > > 1871 Working as a farm labourer and lodging with the Jones family at > Llangyfelach, Glamorgan. > > 1861 Working as a waggoner and general agricultural labourer and lodging > with the Williams family in Llannon, Carmarthenshire > > 1851 Working as a servant with the Price family (farmers) in Llanelwedd, > Radnorshire > > 1841 Living in Llanganten with his parents Edward, 45, and Marcy (sic), 40, > plus siblings Mary, 3, Rees, 9, and Samuel and William, both 5. > > Of course this doesn't tie in with what you state regarding Mary's marriage > to John Jones in 1844 when she would only have been 6 years old, nor the > family living in Nantyglo. However no other Edward Powell that I could find > comes near to the critical data of 'Llanganten 1829' so I'm assuming that > this Edward Powell is not the correct one for your family and the 1901 data > is a red herring. > > It's now worth looking for 'Edward Powell' in the early censuses for > Nantyglo/Aberystruth. > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mary.howells1@tesco.net > Hallo - thanks for your interest - we know its not Blane However on 1901 > Census we found a Powell eDWARDS AGED 72 BORN 1829 INMATE AT aSYLUM IN > bUILTH bRECONSHIRE.It says born in Llangenten - which could be anywhere in > Wales!!!! It questions the fact that he may have is name wrong way round - > however on the marriage certificate of his daughter Mary it says fatheer > POwell Edwards farmer. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > mary.howells1@tesco.net > > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married > a > > John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident > > at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, I think I just found another family member of mine. I noticed a 1911, 3rd qtr Bedwellty death for a Gilbert H. P. THOMAS on free BMD and was surprised to see a Gilbert H. POWELL when I clicked on others on page. My Grandparents Gilbert H. POWELL and Eleanor M. THOMAS married 20, June 1911 Wesley Chapel, Blackwood, Bedwellty. I can find the 3rd qtr. 1910 birth info. for Gilbert H. P. THOMAS and nothing in the GRO images for Gilbert H POWELL. Is it possible for one child to have two death certificates? My Grandparents had at least two other Gilbert H POWELLs, one born 1915, a twin that died 1918 Pontypridd and the other born 1928 Detroit, Michigan, that died 1944 age 16 the River Wye. buried St. James Church, Wyesham. Thank You, Janet ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

SORRY made a blip - The Powell Edwards mentioned was a MINER not a farmer !!! > > From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> > Date: 2007/05/06 Sun AM 11:02:39 BST > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards > > Aha! Finally found him - his name in 1901 was Powell Edward (without the > 's'), hence the possibility that is forename and surname were interposed. In > fact that's EXACTLY what happened - if you examine the census return in > details there's a (2) over the word Powell and a (1) over the word Edward so > the enumerator recognised the error. > > His occupation is listed a general labourer and place of birth as > Llanganten, an ancient parish in the Builth area which no longer exists. > > With that information the following is available from the censuses: > > 1871 Working as a farm labourer and lodging with the Jones family at > Llangyfelach, Glamorgan. > > 1861 Working as a waggoner and general agricultural labourer and lodging > with the Williams family in Llannon, Carmarthenshire > > 1851 Working as a servant with the Price family (farmers) in Llanelwedd, > Radnorshire > > 1841 Living in Llanganten with his parents Edward, 45, and Marcy (sic), 40, > plus siblings Mary, 3, Rees, 9, and Samuel and William, both 5. > > Of course this doesn't tie in with what you state regarding Mary's marriage > to John Jones in 1844 when she would only have been 6 years old, nor the > family living in Nantyglo. However no other Edward Powell that I could find > comes near to the critical data of 'Llanganten 1829' so I'm assuming that > this Edward Powell is not the correct one for your family and the 1901 data > is a red herring. > > It's now worth looking for 'Edward Powell' in the early censuses for > Nantyglo/Aberystruth. > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mary.howells1@tesco.net > Hallo - thanks for your interest - we know its not Blane However on 1901 > Census we found a Powell eDWARDS AGED 72 BORN 1829 INMATE AT aSYLUM IN > bUILTH bRECONSHIRE.It says born in Llangenten - which could be anywhere in > Wales!!!! It questions the fact that he may have is name wrong way round - > however on the marriage certificate of his daughter Mary it says fatheer > POwell Edwards farmer. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > mary.howells1@tesco.net > > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married > a > > John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident > > at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Anne. Definitely a man's world back then!! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Welch" <anne.welch@virgin.net> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [MON] burial traditions > > Dear Ann > > This was still the custom in the 1980s in Blaina. My grandfather died in > 1981 and my cousin Helen and myself were the only women at the graveside > amongst the men of the family. My grandmother, my mother and her sisters > did not join us. My grandmother had no thought of going to the grave. > Helen and I had left South Wales in the 1960s and were used to other > customs > and as we both wanted to go we were 'allowed'. I am not sure if this > custom > extended to crematorium committals. When my grandmother was cremated in > Pontypool in 1988 the place was full of women. > > The situation was pretty similar with regard to pubs too I seem to > remember!! > > Best wishes > > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ann Roberts > Sent: 02 May 2007 15:53 > To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MON] burial traditions > > > When I was in my teens I was told that no women were allowed to attend my > father's funeral - and this included my mother. I must admit that I > thought > that this was a tall story however, on visiting Blaina last week, I was > told > that this was an old tradition in South Wales. > Can anyone tell my why? Was it a case of what we would call nowadays - > men > did the important things and the women stayed at home with the children - > I > don't know how else to express it. > Strange idea > Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hallo again - you brightened up our day!! - we have been trying to solve this for weeks - but still no where near a result. The marriage certificate of Mary definitely says that her name is MARY EDWARDS - I can understand they could have made a mistake with his name but we feel he should be a Edwards whatever his christian name may be!!! - do you agree? she married in the Parish Church of Aberystruth - where is this? (1844) Is it St. Peters Blaina or the church in Llanelly Breconshire Thanks Mary > > From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> > Date: 2007/05/06 Sun AM 11:02:39 BST > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [MON] powell edwards > > Aha! Finally found him - his name in 1901 was Powell Edward (without the > 's'), hence the possibility that is forename and surname were interposed. In > fact that's EXACTLY what happened - if you examine the census return in > details there's a (2) over the word Powell and a (1) over the word Edward so > the enumerator recognised the error. > > His occupation is listed a general labourer and place of birth as > Llanganten, an ancient parish in the Builth area which no longer exists. > > With that information the following is available from the censuses: > > 1871 Working as a farm labourer and lodging with the Jones family at > Llangyfelach, Glamorgan. > > 1861 Working as a waggoner and general agricultural labourer and lodging > with the Williams family in Llannon, Carmarthenshire > > 1851 Working as a servant with the Price family (farmers) in Llanelwedd, > Radnorshire > > 1841 Living in Llanganten with his parents Edward, 45, and Marcy (sic), 40, > plus siblings Mary, 3, Rees, 9, and Samuel and William, both 5. > > Of course this doesn't tie in with what you state regarding Mary's marriage > to John Jones in 1844 when she would only have been 6 years old, nor the > family living in Nantyglo. However no other Edward Powell that I could find > comes near to the critical data of 'Llanganten 1829' so I'm assuming that > this Edward Powell is not the correct one for your family and the 1901 data > is a red herring. > > It's now worth looking for 'Edward Powell' in the early censuses for > Nantyglo/Aberystruth. > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mary.howells1@tesco.net > Hallo - thanks for your interest - we know its not Blane However on 1901 > Census we found a Powell eDWARDS AGED 72 BORN 1829 INMATE AT aSYLUM IN > bUILTH bRECONSHIRE.It says born in Llangenten - which could be anywhere in > Wales!!!! It questions the fact that he may have is name wrong way round - > however on the marriage certificate of his daughter Mary it says fatheer > POwell Edwards farmer. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > mary.howells1@tesco.net > > Looking for Powell ewdwards all we know is that his daughter Mary married > a > > John Jones in 1844 at the Parish Church of Aberystruth.They were resident > > at time in Nantyglo.Mary was born in 1826. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >