Hello Mr Jones Thank you for your reply, it is great to meet you. Will look forward to hearing from you. Marian

Marian, I descend from John HATCH through his daughter Sarah and will respond to your posting in the next few days. Glynne Jones

Because of the many changes of county boundaries over the years it is difficult for me to describe what was Monmouthshire around 1800. I use http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ when I want to look at parts of the old county. Gwent FHS has a map of the parishes of the county available and also one of the Churches - contact me off list for further details. Ann

Marian, l need to know if she married James Hughes and had a son James born 1883-March 28. James sr. owned a motel-carriage service &riding horses in Abergavenny supposedly. Bridget(Elizabeth) died giving birth supposedly. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marian davies" <m.davies607@ntlworld.com> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: [MON] Eliza > Hi Judy, > > I do have an Eliza Davies I believe she came from the Radnor Area she had > a son Evan > I also have a Lil Davies (Elizabeth) born in Neath around 1846 if this is > of any help to you please let me know > > Bye > Marian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 > 2:38 PM > >

Hi Judy, I do have an Eliza Davies I believe she came from the Radnor Area she had a son Evan I also have a Lil Davies (Elizabeth) born in Neath around 1846 if this is of any help to you please let me know Bye Marian

Hello Judy I do not think we are related my G-grandmother was Amelia and came from Disserth. Sorry Judy any help you want this end please let me know. Marian

Hello Barbara, Thank you for your help.I have searched the Parish Records for birth and marriage of John Hatch with no luck, I will try and find if there are parish records that I can purchase. Regards Marian.

Ann: Your last message raises a question that I don't think has been addressed on this list, at least that I recall in the last five or six years: I see references to "old Monmouthshire" as opposed to today's Monmouthshire, as in your message re. new Gwent Society publications. The references I see to "Gwent" I understand as a brief realignment of boundaries and renaming ca. 1974 that was latter abandoned in favor of what is Monmouthshire today. However, as some of us are researching in the 1800s and before, could you roughly describe -- or suggest a source or map which indicates it -- what "old" Monmouthshire more or less encompassed? I am finding records and references for areas/places that seem today to be in Glamorganshire, for instance, not Monmouthshire. Thanks, Sally

Ann I`d like to buy the BCD13(Mynyddislwyn marriages) Sylvia m.n.3837 From: "Ann Macey" <annmacey@ntlworld.com> Reply-To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MON] Gwent FHS Open day Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:47:02 +0100 Saturday June 9th 2007 County Hall Cwmbran 10am - 3pm Admission free that's FREE!! If you do come along then find me and say hello I will be wearing a badge that says Ann Macey Sales Officer and a smile on my face cos I love our Open Day. These are some of the new publications that will be launched at the open day. They will be going onto Parish Chest and GENfair as soon as they update the pages. BCD03 Rock Bedwellty 1891 Census. Full transcription including photographs and some of the history of the area BCD11 Jerusalem British School, Blackwood. Admissions Register 1874-1878. Includes photographs of the local area and a transcription of the Mynyddislwyn district of 1884 from Kelly's Directory. BCD12 SS James & Philip, Penmaen. Register of Baptisms 1852-1910 BCD13 Mynyddislwyn Register of Baptisms 1815-1907 Includes photographs of the church and local area, plus transcriptions of old newspaper articles relevant to the area. BCD14 Mynyddislwyn Marriages 1885-1907. Full transcription including witnesses, plus photographs of the church and area. BCD15 Bedwellty Register of burials 1855-1898.4000 entries, plus photographs of the church and graveyard BCD16 Bedwellty Marriages 1850-1866. Full transcription including witnesses, plus photographs of the church and local area. CCD12 The Registers of Burials 1813 - 1900 of the Parish Churches in the Chepstow Registration District in the Old County of Monmouthshire. For further details email me off list, See some of you on Saturday! Ann macey List Admin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk/

Saturday June 9th 2007 County Hall Cwmbran 10am - 3pm Admission free that's FREE!! If you do come along then find me and say hello I will be wearing a badge that says Ann Macey Sales Officer and a smile on my face cos I love our Open Day. These are some of the new publications that will be launched at the open day. They will be going onto Parish Chest and GENfair as soon as they update the pages. BCD03 Rock Bedwellty 1891 Census. Full transcription including photographs and some of the history of the area BCD11 Jerusalem British School, Blackwood. Admissions Register 1874-1878. Includes photographs of the local area and a transcription of the Mynyddislwyn district of 1884 from Kelly's Directory. BCD12 SS James & Philip, Penmaen. Register of Baptisms 1852-1910 BCD13 Mynyddislwyn Register of Baptisms 1815-1907 Includes photographs of the church and local area, plus transcriptions of old newspaper articles relevant to the area. BCD14 Mynyddislwyn Marriages 1885-1907. Full transcription including witnesses, plus photographs of the church and area. BCD15 Bedwellty Register of burials 1855-1898.4000 entries, plus photographs of the church and graveyard BCD16 Bedwellty Marriages 1850-1866. Full transcription including witnesses, plus photographs of the church and local area. CCD12 The Registers of Burials 1813 - 1900 of the Parish Churches in the Chepstow Registration District in the Old County of Monmouthshire. For further details email me off list, See some of you on Saturday! Ann macey List Admin

Hello. I am looking for a John HATCH I have his children born in Tregare. Hanna baptized 1779 previously baptized privately about 2 years before Sara also baptized March 5th 1779 Maria baptized Sept 27th 1778 daughter of Mr John ACH Thomas baptized Aug 27 1785 also John ACH this is my gggg-grandfather. I have been unable to find where John was born, where he married, and to whom. I will be grateful for any help or advice given. Thank you Marian

Marian, could you be a relative of mine?Gr-grandmother was Bridget (Eliz) Davis. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "marian davies" <m.davies607@ntlworld.com> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: [MON] Hatch, Tregare > Hello. > > I am looking for a John HATCH I have his children born in Tregare. > Hanna baptized 1779 previously baptized privately about 2 years before > Sara also baptized March 5th 1779 > Maria baptized Sept 27th 1778 daughter of Mr John ACH > Thomas baptized Aug 27 1785 also John ACH this is my gggg-grandfather. > I have been unable to find where John was born, where he married, and to > whom. > > I will be grateful for any help or advice given. > > Thank you > Marian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 > 12:47 PM > >

Hello Marian, Being that the dates of his children who were baptised 1779/1785, all were born before Civil Registrations of July 1837 and John Hatch possibly being born himself around 1750, he would not have been recorded on the Census of 1841. It would be a search of the Parish Records to assist you further, possibly another list member may be able to let you know if there are any parish records that have been transcribed and you are able to purchase. Regards Barbara

Hi Ray, You could do worse than try the Kelly's Directory for each town to give you a picture of the range of employment in the area at the time. This is available online. If you put Kelly's Directory into Google you'll get there. Of course, the GENUKI pages for the county also give you an overview as well as providing various links to take you elsewhere. Given the difficulty of tracking down books on specific places overseas, you might well do better ferreting about online. If I come up with anything more specific, I'll let you know. Of course, the coal board also has various websites detailing things like the names of those injured or killed in mining accidents. Some of these are specific to other mining areas in the UK, but many are national in scope. Again, "coal mining (name of town)" into Google yields quite a good start. Regards, Sian Mackey.

PLease make sure that if you wish to respond to Greg Price's message that you DO NOT click on reply or reply all because this sends the message to the list and NOT to Greg. Can I also remind you that clicking reply and sending your answer as well as the original message to the list is considered very poor netiquette because it means that search engines will throw up hits for each copy of the original message in the archives. If only 20 members of the list send back the complete original message as well as their answer it soon means that there could be thousands of hits for the same thing - this is pretty darned frustrating for anyone who is doing a search. Please could everyone cut out all except the query they are replying to. This is also the best way to ensure that your message doesn't exceed the size limit for Rootsweb because that causes messages to disappear into the cyber vortex never to be seen again. Ann Macey

G'day List Thanks for those who shared their thoughts with me about the Eastern valeys. Unfortunately the publication "Coal Society: a History of the South Wales Mining Valleys, 1840-1980" doesn't seem to be available here, at least not in any of the major libraries but trawling the web has thrown up some interesting material from which I can draw. Thanks again Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia Surname interests: Davies; Jones; Lewis

Hello Bella, I have located the Census for you Census 1871 Mary Williams age 44 M Housekeeper born Pembrokeshire Mary Williams age 18 U/M daur born Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale Mary Jane Evans age 12 grand-daur born Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale John Evans age 6 grand-son born Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale Sarah Jane Evans age 3 born Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale 15 California Row Town of Ebbw Vale. If you have obtained a copy of Sarah Jane's birth certificate this will relate to you the connection to the Williams, it could be that the mother of the Evans childrens was Mary Williams daughter and that is why they are listed as grandchildren, and being that they were lodgers in 1881 the mother may have died after Sarah Jane was born. Regards Barbara

SORRY......I just did it!!...then received your message. I shall not do it again. Bella

Hi Rachel,' Thank you for your interest. These old eyes are not good.........I was wrong with the page no.. It is page 14 not 4. The RG !0 appears to be 5324. The last box says, "Ecclesiastical District of Ebbw Vale. Hope this clears things up..Thanks again. Bella ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel Boyd" <rachel-boyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [MON] 1871 Census-Bedwellty > Hi Bella, > The problem is that Bedwellty census is divided up into three towns, > Aberystruth, Rock Bedwelty and Tredegar; each one of those is divided up > into districts. I have looked at page 4 of each district in Aberystruth > and Rock Bedwelty, and do not find the family you reference. > It will take longer to check Tredegar... there are 42 districts! > Is there anything else you can make out at the top of the page which > might narrow it down? or can you make out the ref number RG10/____ and the > folio # at the top? > > Rachel > CT, USA > > "bellapmcharter.net" <bellapm@charter.net> wrote: > Hello folks,' > Been away from my research but am dusting off the papers and have some > questions....again!! My copy of the page (4) of the above census is VERY > faded in some places and I can't decipher the info I need. Any help? The > 3rd household lists a MARY WILLIAMS-Head; I can't tell if she is married > or not, I can't tell her age, and I can't decipher her birthplace.. > Immediately below her is another MARY WILLIAMS (I think) listed as daur. I > can't decipher her age either nor her marital status. The remaining three > children, called "grandchildren" are known to me. Sarah Anne, the > youngest, is my grandmother. I am having trouble establishing the > connection to "WILLIAMS" for these EVANS kids. They are found 10 years > later in Mt. Ash in the household of one, DAVID WILLIAMS. where they are > listed as lodgers. Hoping someone has a clearer copy and can help me out. > I would also like to know the "town" as that is unclear also.' > I don't speak Welsh but can say.. Diolch en Fawr. Bella Creel in > Minnesota. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

-----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Greg Price > Sent: 02 June 2007 21:37 > To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MON] Personal Web Pages relating to Monmouthshire > > If you have a personal website that may be be of genealogical value > to those with Monmouthshire roots and would like to have a link to > your site included in the Personal Web Pages > section of the Monmouthshire GenWeb site, please send me an email > with the url and a brief desription of the site. No commercials sites > please. In the subject line of your email, please put the following, > "". > > http://www.geocities.com/seventyyearsinthecoalmines/ Most of my Welsh ancestors were in Glamorgan, but I have one set who immigrated to the USA from Blaina, Aberystruth. Bailey