On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" . Thank you, Claire

Hello Claire, Aberystruth was not a village or hamlet it was a Parish and Registration sub-district, there was many places that had the sub-district of Aberystruth written on BMD's. Do you know from Census which location you Ancestor lived. Regards Barbara

Hj Cant helpyou with your question but I thought you`d be interested to know that my father was in the 1st battalion The WElsh Guards from 1926 to 1931 His name was Albert ALLAWAY Sylvia Morgan(nee ALLAWAY) From: DStoc10228@aol.com Reply-To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Collier's Assistant? Govilon Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:31:03 EDT Prior to joining the Welsh Guards in 1925, at the age of 18, my father's employment was described as a 'Collier's Assistant'. Would anyone know what duties this job may have entailed, apart from working at the coal face? Additionally, where in the vicinity of Govilon was he likely to have been employed? Many thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

Colliers assistant As I understand this could mean any thing from hewing the coal, filling the drams (trucks) to fixing up pit props. It is a generic term for mine workers and in my brief experience reading census returns seems to be interchangeable term. I asked a miner this same question when visiting the Big Pit at Blaenafon as I wanted to be clear what the difference was between a Hewer, Coal Miner, Collier…. He said it depends where you were mining. And who was writing it down. The Big Pit had 26 miles of road underground! My own Uncle Lewis was 14 when he become what must be I suppose a colliers assistant; he assisted his father by loading the trucks (drams) whilst his father hewed the coal. This is only 1920’s/30’s In those days I am told it was a father and son business. Many children as young as 5 years old were sent down pit to be used as door closers or trap closers to keep the air circulating. In the mine in the early 19th century... Many sat in the dark without light as the parents could not afford the candle. My Uncle tells me at age 14 he had to travel a long way to reach where my Grandfather was working carrying a heavy lamp working all day filling trucks and chalking up the name on the side. The same lamp my grandfather held in his teeth ( it weighs quite a few pounds) whilst he fixed the pit props in place to prevent falls. He mainly used the undercutting method to hew the coal. It is very dangerous and often fatal. He was crushed by a fall of coal and was freed when my Uncle went for help. My Grandfather died at age 44. from pneumonia and lung infection. If you want to know more about the life of a miner the book” My life as a Somerset Miner” by A. J Parfitt. is recommended. Lewis www.batesplace.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DStoc10228@aol.com Sent: 13 June 2007 14:31 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Collier's Assistant? Govilon Prior to joining the Welsh Guards in 1925, at the age of 18, my father's employment was described as a 'Collier's Assistant'. Would anyone know what duties this job may have entailed, apart from working at the coal face? Additionally, where in the vicinity of Govilon was he likely to have been employed? Many thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 10/06/2007 13:39 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 10/06/2007 13:39

Prior to joining the Welsh Guards in 1925, at the age of 18, my father's employment was described as a 'Collier's Assistant'. Would anyone know what duties this job may have entailed, apart from working at the coal face? Additionally, where in the vicinity of Govilon was he likely to have been employed? Many thanks.

Glynne, Marian has asked me what I know of the twins..... I didn't know so what is the story of the twins??? Best wishes John

Same place, I think Dennis see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llandegveth/index.html

Hi Gill, Multimap shows a Llandegveth on page http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&GridE=-2.96230&GridN=51 .65330&lon=-2.96230&lat=51.65330&search_result=Llandegveth%2C%20Monmouthshir e&db=freegaz&keepicon=true&lang=&place=Llandegveth%2C%20Monmouthshire&pc=&ad vanced=&client=public&addr2=&quicksearch=llandegveth&addr3=&scale=100000&add r1= It seems to be just a few miles East of Cwmbran and just North of Caerleon. I am fairly sure this will turn out to be the location. regards Dennis Gill Jones at pwllrhydypwnau@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > Hello Dennis > > The only place I can think of is LLANDEGFEDD near Pontypool. There is a > reservoir there. Unfortunately, I don't live near there otherwise I would > help. > > Good luck > > Gill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "denniscorbett" <denniscorbett@denniscorbett.e.telefonica.net> > To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:45 PM > Subject: [MON] Llandegveth Churchyard > > >> Oh dear, in my excitement at finding a grave previously unknown to me, I >> forgot to identify the man!! >> >> He is Gunner Arthur Cording. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Dennis >> >> >> >> I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have >> just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard >> at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be >> Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon. >> >> Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could > take >> a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC > site >> says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise > location. >> Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from > a >> light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar > stones >> can be seen on my website detailed below. >> >> Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and > am >> therefore unable to do this myself. >> >> Thanks in advance if anyone can help >> >> regards >> >> Dennis Corbett >> Dennis Corbett >> Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. >> Website http://www.denniscorbett.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Dennis The only place I can think of is LLANDEGFEDD near Pontypool. There is a reservoir there. Unfortunately, I don't live near there otherwise I would help. Good luck Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: "denniscorbett" <denniscorbett@denniscorbett.e.telefonica.net> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: [MON] Llandegveth Churchyard > Oh dear, in my excitement at finding a grave previously unknown to me, I > forgot to identify the man!! > > He is Gunner Arthur Cording. > > Thanks again, > > Dennis > > > > I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have > just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard > at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be > Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon. > > Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could take > a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC site > says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise location. > Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from a > light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar stones > can be seen on my website detailed below. > > Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and am > therefore unable to do this myself. > > Thanks in advance if anyone can help > > regards > > Dennis Corbett > Dennis Corbett > Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. > Website http://www.denniscorbett.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh dear, in my excitement at finding a grave previously unknown to me, I forgot to identify the man!! He is Gunner Arthur Cording. Thanks again, Dennis I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon. Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could take a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC site says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise location. Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from a light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar stones can be seen on my website detailed below. Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and am therefore unable to do this myself. Thanks in advance if anyone can help regards Dennis Corbett Dennis Corbett Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. Website http://www.denniscorbett.com

I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon. Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could take a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC site says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise location. Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from a light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar stones can be seen on my website detailed below. Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and am therefore unable to do this myself. Thanks in advance if anyone can help regards Dennis Corbett Dennis Corbett Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. Website http://www.denniscorbett.com

Hi Glynne, I met Marian a few years back as we are both descendants of Thomas& Rebecca. I have taken a back seat on this as I have been away visiting NZ seeing my mothers sisters children and descendants. what a graet place NZ is !! We haven't found John Hatch [Atch] father or any other descendants so ... what are we to do now.?? Hope you are well and happy with life. Take care Best wishes John Eaton

Hello Glynne. I have a copy of the IGI from Neath, Lisa she works there thinks that she help to transcribe this and added her name as a relations, I also asked in Aberystwyth they did not have any idea what it meant. I looked up Ira Stearns on the LDS site and found one born about 1900 again nothing to confirm this. I will send you what I have on Thomas if you would like me to. I am planning a visit to the archives at Cwmbran in the near future. Bye. Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glynne Jones" <gbj@talktalk.net> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: [MON] JOHN HATCH > Greetings Marian, > > I do not have anything firm on the origins of John Hatch but some pointers > which may be relevant. The surname is more common in Gloucestershire and > Herefordshire than in Monmouthshire in that period. I found a John Hatch > baptised in Ashton-under-Hill 26.8.1742, son of John and Sarah; they also > used the names Thomas and Sarah (three times). This could be our John H. > but I have failed to find any evidence to confirm it. > The IGI of 1992 has a number of entries submitted by Ira Stearns Hatch > which look as if they may be interesting but they were submitted in 1927 > and no way of following up. > As you may have seen in the Parish records, John Hatch was at different > times petty constable and overseer of the highway in the 1780's. One way > and another I reckon he was in Tregare from at least 1776 and until 1811. > No sign of his burial but a John Hatch was buried at Tintern, age 75, on > 19.5.1817. This would be spot on for age I believe. > I have more on his son John and of course a pretty full life history for > daughter Sarah. The only thing on Thomas is that he was a witness at her > marriage - I think it safe to assume that this Thomas H. was her brother. > I think that is all I have which may be of interest to you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Glynne. Thank you for all your help I am very grateful. Bye Marian

Greetings Marian, I do not have anything firm on the origins of John Hatch but some pointers which may be relevant. The surname is more common in Gloucestershire and Herefordshire than in Monmouthshire in that period. I found a John Hatch baptised in Ashton-under-Hill 26.8.1742, son of John and Sarah; they also used the names Thomas and Sarah (three times). This could be our John H. but I have failed to find any evidence to confirm it. The IGI of 1992 has a number of entries submitted by Ira Stearns Hatch which look as if they may be interesting but they were submitted in 1927 and no way of following up. As you may have seen in the Parish records, John Hatch was at different times petty constable and overseer of the highway in the 1780's. One way and another I reckon he was in Tregare from at least 1776 and until 1811. No sign of his burial but a John Hatch was buried at Tintern, age 75, on 19.5.1817. This would be spot on for age I believe. I have more on his son John and of course a pretty full life history for daughter Sarah. The only thing on Thomas is that he was a witness at her marriage - I think it safe to assume that this Thomas H. was her brother. I think that is all I have which may be of interest to you.

Organised by Gwent FHS. Takes place tomorrow at the County Hall, Cwmbran, free admission. Best Wishes Carol O'Neill www.genealogyprinters.com

He was quite capable of speaking; he simply refused to during the wedding. M. Elliot-Jones

Hello Mike, If William was mute this would have been recorded on UK Census Records in Column 16 of the Census. Regards Barbara

Thank you, Ann and Mike Sally

Hi Judy, Sorry your Eliza is not a match to mine. Marian