Hello Iain, Did you locate William and Sarah on any Census record after the marriage, and where was Sarah born. Regards Barbara

Good morning, list, I am seeking information about my great-grandparents. William HUGHES was born in November 1839, seemingly in Tredegar. There is no record of him in either the GRO births list nor in the IGI index. From his marriage certificate in 1864 at Siloh Chapel, Tredegar, I know that his father was also William, and he is shown as 'butcher, deceased'. His wife, Sarah BENNETT, was born in 1844 - I have her birth certificate. She was the daughter of Daniel BENNETT and Mary (nee REES). For some strange reason, William seems to have also escaped the census returns. There is a man on the 1871 census who might be him, but there is no trace before that in any of the preceding three censuses, something which might give me more information about his immediate family. He and the other members of the Hughes family appear to be a brick wall. Can anyone help with a butcher called William Hughes in the immediate area of Tredegar? I have considered the possibility that he might not have been born in the town, but in some outlying village, but not being familiar with the area, I'm at a loss where to search next. TIA, Iain Parsons.

I too have an interest in the Roach name and from Haverfordwest and found them under the spellings of Roche and Roch. Have you tried those names? Len >I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of >Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I >have >failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, > > >------------------------------- >> >Shirley > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:29:36 +0100 >From: "The Ogre" <rhopk24324@gmail.com> >Subject: [MON] Rogerstone: Bethesda Chapel >To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <eb325f300707200829t16368624t3ad87e368c40846@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Good afternoon listers... > >The OGRE website has today been updated with the MI's for Bethesda >Chapel Rogerstone. You can find the headstone inscriptions and images >here: > >http://www.cefnpennar.com/rogerstone/ > >Any flak to this email address... > >Cheers >The OGRE > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the MONMOUTHSHIRE list administrator, send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the MONMOUTHSHIRE mailing list, send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of MONMOUTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 199 >********************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: New jobsjobsjobs.com.au. Find thousands of jobs online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2Enet%2Fclk%3B114014868%3B17770752%3Bi%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejobsjobsjobs%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=762242361&_r=Hotmail_email_tagline_July07&_m=EXT

I don't know if anyone can help me with this one but I'll try anyway. In approximately 1888, Abraham William Williams lost both of his legs in a train accident at, I think, Pontypool Station. Would anyone have access to records of such accidents and if so can they help in finding any more details please? During the war years it was my job to deliver Grandad William's dinner each day to the other end of the village - Raglan Alan Moore, Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com

Good afternoon listers... The OGRE website has today been updated with the MI's for Bethesda Chapel Rogerstone. You can find the headstone inscriptions and images here: http://www.cefnpennar.com/rogerstone/ Any flak to this email address... Cheers The OGRE

I disagree with the comment that Castlemartin is nowhere near Haverfordwest it's about 16 miles away! Robert Treharne Jones <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Richard Believe it or not the image looks to me like H'fordwest ie. Haverfordwest! However the man I assume to be the same one is still living in Merthyr in 1861 and on that occasion his place of birth is given as Castlemartin, which is nowhere near Haverfordwest! I couldn't find him in 1871. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RRoynon@aol.com I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I have failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Shirley

Hi Richard >From International Genealogical Index - British Isles JOHN ROCH Gender: Male Christening: 18 JUL 1824 Castlemartin, Pembroke, Wales JOHN ROCH Gender: Male Christening: 01 AUG 1826 St Marys, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales John Roach Gender: Male Birth: 1827 Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales JOHN ROCH Gender: Male Christening: 09 APR 1827 Freystrop, Pembroke, Wales JOHN ROACH Gender: Male Christening: 19 JUL 1827 Prendergast, Pembroke, Wales JOHN JONES ROCH Gender: Male Christening: 26 DEC 1827 Saint Petrox, Pembroke, Wales John J. Roach Gender: Male Birth: 1828 Longstone, , Pembroke, Wales Steve Subject: [MON] Place Name On the 1851 Census of Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I have failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, Richard Roynon

Have just looked at the census image and would agree that birth place is Haverfordwest, Pembs Steve <steven.veysey@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Richard Looking at the image and the taking into pronunciation and the way it may have been interpreted, what about Aberfordwest, i.e. Haverfordwest. On the 1861 census they are down as being born in Castlemartin and Carew. Hope this helps Steve -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RRoynon@aol.com Sent: 19 July 2007 15:54 To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Place Name I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I have failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, Richard Roynon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 18/07/2007 15:30 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Shirley

Hi Richard Looking at the image and the taking into pronunciation and the way it may have been interpreted, what about Aberfordwest, i.e. Haverfordwest. On the 1861 census they are down as being born in Castlemartin and Carew. Hope this helps Steve -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RRoynon@aol.com Sent: 19 July 2007 15:54 To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] Place Name I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I have failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, Richard Roynon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 18/07/2007 15:30

In 1861 John is from Castlemartin and Martha from Carew. (Glam FHS transcription) In 1851 John and Martha are both from Haverfordwest (GlamFHS transcription) 1851 image shows H'fordwest Ancestry transcriptions can be imaginative! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <RRoynon@aol.com> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: [MON] Place Name >I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of > Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I > have > failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, > Richard Roynon > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Richard Believe it or not the image looks to me like H'fordwest ie. Haverfordwest! However the man I assume to be the same one is still living in Merthyr in 1861 and on that occasion his place of birth is given as Castlemartin, which is nowhere near Haverfordwest! I couldn't find him in 1871. Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RRoynon@aol.com I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I have failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated,

I wonder if someone could help with this place name. On the 1851 Census of Merthyr I have John and Martha Roach born at Uterdcumb, Pembrokeshire, I have failed to find any similar name. Any help will be appreciated, Richard Roynon

hi i could not find George Hyatt on the 1841 census but with the surname being spelt so many ways i should just check all the George ones i found him on thee other census and he states born in Chepstow. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Sandra There is a George Hyatt baptisted in Mathern. Mon 28 Jul 1822. Parents are James & Mary Hyatt from Tidenham. His occupation a Labourer. Pauline Longwood paulline@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <sandra.evans3@ntlworld.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: [MON] Chepstow help > Hi all im trying to find the family of my great great grandad George > Hyatt. The surnme as been spelt many ways on George marriage to Ann Jones > in 1843 is is spelt Hyet. George was full age when he married and was > living in chepstow at the time of his marriage his father was James Hyet a > Labourer. George and Ann lived in Chepstow all their lives and i have > thier details on the census but nothing before they married. can anyone > help me find out about George`s family. from sandra > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue You contacted me about this in April. This was the original reply. Colliery Row, Lower Machen was actually in Risca. The parish of Lower Machen extended to the river Ebbw which runs through Risca, although Machen is the other side of the mountain. That's why parts of Pontymister and Risca which were one side of the river are in L Machen. My Dixons are on the same page as your family, and as far as I can work out Colliery Row is near the Blackvein Colliery. (now gone) If you go to www.oldmaps.co.uk and type in 323124 191309 as the coordinates the centre of the map will show more or less where Colliery Row was. Click on the enlarged view and look for Madart Cottage. To the right is Cwm Byr Colliery and down a bit is a Well. In front of this is the river and then a row of houses. I believe these houses are Colliery Row, unless someone else can tell me different. If you want any more help email me off list. There is an excellent book Man of the Valleys about William Paget who used to live in Colliery Place which is in the same area. Edited by Mary Paget ISBN 0862992443 Steve -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Raymaturner@aol.com Sent: 18 July 2007 13:31 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] (no subject) hi can anybody tell me where colliers row was, its in the census as upper machen, but i know that covered crosskeys and risca, i think it was in risca but not sure, cheers sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 17/07/2007 18:30

hi can anybody tell me where colliers row was, its in the census as upper machen, but i know that covered crosskeys and risca, i think it was in risca but not sure, cheers sue

Hi all im trying to find the family of my great great grandad George Hyatt. The surnme as been spelt many ways on George marriage to Ann Jones in 1843 is is spelt Hyet. George was full age when he married and was living in chepstow at the time of his marriage his father was James Hyet a Labourer. George and Ann lived in Chepstow all their lives and i have thier details on the census but nothing before they married. can anyone help me find out about George`s family. from sandra ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hello Sandra, Have you searched for George living with father James and his family on the 1841 Census plus have you his place of birth on following Census records. Regards Barbara

It comes from the Latin meaning "below" or "lower". mary.howells1@tesco.net wrote: Hi anyone know what Citra Side means e.g. part of the parish of aberystuth on the Citra Side? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Explanation from the web - Neath Citra consisted of the parishes of Briton Ferry and Llantwit Lower (part of Llantwit-juxta-Neath parish). Neath Citra means 'On this side of the River Neath', as opposed to Neath Ultra ('on the far side of the river Neath'). I suppose it depends on what side of the river or parish you are stood!! Steve Hi anyone know what Citra Side means e.g. part of the parish of aberystuth on the Citra Side?