Hello Dawn, Just key in the following not all of the URL because it was forwarded to Ann, it shows the information twice _http://www.pettrust.org.uk_ (http://www.pettrust.org.uk) Regards Barbara

Hi everyone, does anyone out there have any further info on Richard and Edith Buck and their family please? Any connections, relations, etc? Edith Buck was my grandmother's elder sister. Richard Buck & Edith Cooksey: Married June qtr 1910 Abergavenny 11a 96 George H Buck: Born March qtr 1912 Abergavenny 11a 89 Mary J Buck: Born December qtr 1915 Abergavenny 11a 84 REgards to all, Jon http://www.jons-guide-dogs.co.uk

I have heard that the name DREW was derived from DROUGH and that from, and has connections to BRIDGEMAN - interesting I thought! May be irrelevant, but then.... Estelle >From: "Adrian Parry" <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> >Reply-To: Adrian Parry <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk>, monmouthshire@rootsweb.com >To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [MON] Finding a Bedwelty Marriage record >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:20:07 +0100 > >Hello Susan > >The marriage may well NOT have occured in the parish church. > >Why not order the certificate from the GRO (you already have the reference >number). > >See: - > >http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ > >Do you know how the name DREW came into your family? My DREW forebears >lived in Wiltshire but a sibling moved to South Wales. > >Adrian >Yorkshire > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Susan Van Kirk Beyer > To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:08 AM > Subject: [MON] Finding a Bedwelty Marriage record > > > Hello! I found my 3rd great grandmother's 2nd marriage listed on the > FreeBMD website, but I need help finding the actual record. Esther >(DREW) > REES married John HOOK. > > The marriage was recorded in the September quarter of 1863 in Bedwelty > district, vol 11 a page 143. I have the parish register for Bedwelty as > Esther's daughter, Ellen, married there in 1871. I could not find an >entry > for John and Esther. I searched the register from 1858 (when Esther's >first > husband died) to 1866. Is there anywhere else I might find the record? > Esther and John's first child was born in 1864 and Ellen's residence on >her > marriage license is listed as Fleur-de-Lis. > > Thank you! > > Susan Van Kirk Beyer > familyseeker@everestkc.net > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: >24/07/2007 13:50 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Search for local singles online at Lavalife http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D29555&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search&_m=EXT

> I am a volunteer archives trainee at the Planned Environment Therapy > Trust Archive and Study Centre in Toddington, Gloucestershire, and am > writing to ask your help and to let you know about some information > we have which may be of interest to your readers. The information I > have prepared is at > <http://www.pettrust.org.uk/>http://www.pettrust.org.uk (Click on > "New: Press Release"). > > The Archive and Study Centre hosts a large collection of papers, > documents and other materials related to the field of therapeutic > care. Among this collection are a number of photographs taken at > Risca in the early 1930s, where an educational settlement was > established to help unemployed coal miners and their families. David > Wills and his wife Ruth were joint wardens at the Educational > Settlement at Oxford House, Risca, and they worked to set up a number > of groups including an unemployed men's club and boys' and girls' > clubs. David Wills kept a photograph album of this time. More > information about this and photographs can be found at our website: > > <http://www.pettrust.org.uk/>http://www.pettrust.org.uk/ > > Please click on 'RISCA' and you will be taken to thumbnails of our > photos. By clicking on the 'Larger' link, you will then be able to > see a bigger version of the photo and find out more information about it. > > The photographs from David Wills' album show the people of Risca > engaged in different activities at Oxford House and also on camping > trips and holidays in the surrounding countryside. Our hope is you > will publicise this within the Gwent Family History Society, and that > your clients will view our collection of photographs online. Some of > them may be able to recognise themselves or family members, and > reconnect themselves with the Monmouthshire of the 1930s. We also > hope that they may be willing to share some of their memories and > information with us, perhaps by using the online form. > > We would be grateful if you would consider making this information > available to your society's users. If you require more details or > information please see the Press Release > (<http://www.pettrust.org.uk/>http://www.pettrust.org.uk) or contact > me or the archivist, Dr. Craig Fees, at this e-mail address. > > Yours sincerely, > > Sharon Boyle

Hello to all- I have a general question as it has happened twice in two different Catholic Churches between the years 1852 & 1859. Mary SCANNELL appears as a witness to a marriage at either St Illtyd's or St Mary's (I can't remember which), in 1855. That is the maiden name of my ancestor Mary (nee SCANNELL) BUCKLEY who was married in 1852 until her death in 1884. I know there were other SCANNELL in the Merthyr area and Mary is a common name so I didn't think much of it. Now, there is another marriage in Tredegar where the witness is a Mary SCANNELL in 1859. The wedding party had moved to Tredegar from Merthyr Tydfil. Is this a coincidence or a custom? Could all 3 actually be the same person? One more piece. My BUCKLEY son of the ancestor listed above, married a girl who was born in Tredegar and whose family moved along with couple #2 above to the same neighborhood in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Obviously this one has me guessing. Would anyone like to either dowse my fire of curiosity or add some kerosene? Thanks John

Hello Ian You will find them in [1871 census] Ancestry.com as "HASHER", still in Tredegar. I see that all the children were born Tredegar, so you will no doubt find them in previous years but you will have to check the Ancestry transcription. Pam in New Zealand > > The only place that I have found them is in Accrington, Lancs in > 1881/91/1901. They are present with their family in all these returns, > which has enabled me to discover their children's names. My > grandfather, Alfred HUGHES, was their last-born in 1887. > > Sarah was born in Tredegar in August, 1844. > > Iain. >

Rachel It does not sound as though there is a connection between our two families. Bob Sanders The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. Cafodd fersiwn gwreiddiol y neges e-bost hon ei sganio gan wasanaeth gwrthfeirysau Mewnrwyd Ddiogel y Llywodraeth (GSI) a ddarparwyd gan Cable&Wireless mewn partneriaeth � MessageLabs. (Rhif Tystysgrif CCTM 2006/04/0007). Wrth adael y GSI nid oedd unrhyw feirws yn gysylltiedig ��r neges hon. Mae�n ddigon posibl y bydd unrhyw ohebiaeth drwy�r GSI yn cael ei logio, ei monitro a/neu ei chofnodi yn awtomatig am resymau cyfreithiol.

Hi Barbara- Thank you for responding. I will hope that Kevin from Cork can help me. I must have confused my transmission a bit and I should clarify: Joseph & Johanna HAYES were born and married in Ireland. On the 1871 census they have 4 children, all born in Ireland, one of those Mary noted Cork, Ireland. She was not living with the family. I have the birth certificates for her children. And I have Johanna's death certificate. Several if not all remaining left for the US in 1877. That is the reason I was searching for another trace or footprint and I was hoping the Catholic Church would have something. Thank you so much once again. Regards John _____ From: B1oatley@aol.com [mailto:B1oatley@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:02 AM To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Cc: johnst@luckbros.com Subject: Re: [MON] Tredegar -Immacute Conception Catholic Church Hello John, Because Johanna, Joseph and their children were all born in Ireland there would be no birth records of them in Tredegar Parish, if you have obtained the birth certificates of her children it should have her maiden name on them. There is a man named Kevin from Cork in Ireland who is on the mailing lists who may be able to assist you on whom to contact regarding research in Ireland. Regards Barbara

Hello John, Because Johanna, Joseph and their children were all born in Ireland there would be no birth records of them in Tredegar Parish, if you have obtained the birth certificates of her children it should have her maiden name on them. There is a man named Kevin from Cork in Ireland who is on the mailing lists who may be able to assist you on whom to contact regarding research in Ireland. Regards Barbara

Hello all- Good day to all. I need a bit more help. I have been told that the Immaculate Conception is/was the Roman Catholic Church in Tredegar 1870-1875 when my HAYES & PRITCHARD families resided there. I have collected the GRO BMD certificates that I need. However, I would be very interested in checking the Church records in the hope that I could pull a bit more information from them. For example, if I could find the maiden name for Johanna Hayes born in Ireland, married in Ireland and all her children who were with her & husband Joseph in Tredegar were born in Cork, Ireland. Johanna died in December 1872 in Tredegar and I have the GRO certificate but without a maiden name mentioned. If I had this maiden name I believe it would greatly improve my chances of discovering the family's origin. Can anyone tell me where I could write to get this information? Thank you. Regards John Steitz Lake Placid, NY

In a message dated 23/07/2007 23:52:44 GMT Standard Time, B1oatley writes: Hello, For some unknown reason the email below giving you details of your family listed under Hasher in Tredegar was not delivered to list. Regards Barbara Hello Iain, I located them earlier in Lancashire prior to reading your email, looking at the children's ages in 1881 they were still living in Wales in 1875. Good news I have located them living in Tredegar in 1871, they were recorded as Hasher. Census 1871 William Hughes Head age 30 Sarah Hughes Wife age 26 George Hughes Son age 7 (1881 he is named Henry) Evan Hughes Son age 4 Mary Hughes Daur age 2 Address listed as Back of No 6 Tredegar RG10/5321 FOLIO 90 PAGE 56 There are those named William Hughes born Tredegar prior to him getting married in 1864 but either listed as Boarders/Lodgers, so not able to pinpoint correct William with his parents. Regards Barbara

Hello Susan The marriage may well NOT have occured in the parish church. Why not order the certificate from the GRO (you already have the reference number). See: - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Do you know how the name DREW came into your family? My DREW forebears lived in Wiltshire but a sibling moved to South Wales. Adrian Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Van Kirk Beyer To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:08 AM Subject: [MON] Finding a Bedwelty Marriage record Hello! I found my 3rd great grandmother's 2nd marriage listed on the FreeBMD website, but I need help finding the actual record. Esther (DREW) REES married John HOOK. The marriage was recorded in the September quarter of 1863 in Bedwelty district, vol 11 a page 143. I have the parish register for Bedwelty as Esther's daughter, Ellen, married there in 1871. I could not find an entry for John and Esther. I searched the register from 1858 (when Esther's first husband died) to 1866. Is there anywhere else I might find the record? Esther and John's first child was born in 1864 and Ellen's residence on her marriage license is listed as Fleur-de-Lis. Thank you! Susan Van Kirk Beyer familyseeker@everestkc.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date: 24/07/2007 13:50

Pam, I have had a look at the Ancestry transcripts but haven't found them under the name of HASHER. Can you give me a reference or tell me exactly how you found them? Iain

Hello! I found my 3rd great grandmother's 2nd marriage listed on the FreeBMD website, but I need help finding the actual record. Esther (DREW) REES married John HOOK. The marriage was recorded in the September quarter of 1863 in Bedwelty district, vol 11 a page 143. I have the parish register for Bedwelty as Esther's daughter, Ellen, married there in 1871. I could not find an entry for John and Esther. I searched the register from 1858 (when Esther's first husband died) to 1866. Is there anywhere else I might find the record? Esther and John's first child was born in 1864 and Ellen's residence on her marriage license is listed as Fleur-de-Lis. Thank you! Susan Van Kirk Beyer familyseeker@everestkc.net

> > From: IHPARSONS@aol.com > Date: 2007/07/23 Mon AM 10:30:24 BST > To: MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MON] HUGHES and BENNETT interest > > Good morning, list, > > I am seeking information about my great-grandparents. William HUGHES was > born in November 1839, seemingly in Tredegar. There is no record of him in > either the GRO births list nor in the IGI index. From his marriage certificate > in 1864 at Siloh Chapel, Tredegar, I know that his father was also William, > and he is shown as 'butcher, deceased'. > > His wife, Sarah BENNETT, was born in 1844 - I have her birth > certificate. She was the daughter of Daniel BENNETT and Mary (nee REES). > > For some strange reason, William seems to have also escaped the census > returns. There is a man on the 1871 census who might be him, but there is no > trace before that in any of the preceding three censuses, something which > might give me more information about his immediate family. > > He and the other members of the Hughes family appear to be a brick wall. > Can anyone help with a butcher called William Hughes in the immediate area > of Tredegar? I have considered the possibility that he might not have been > born in the town, but in some outlying village, but not being familiar with the > area, I'm at a loss where to search next. > > TIA, > > Iain Parsons. > hello I too am searching ancestors 'hughes'but they are from chepstow.I have not yet come across a butcher but will let you know if I do.mary > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A Henry Roch/Roach/Roche married my great-grandaunt Ellen/Helen Birch in 1863 Haverfordwest. This Henry was b. 1843 Llangwm, the son of a coal miner Henry Roach b. 1811 Freystrop, and Sarah b. 1813 Llangwm, Pem. In 1851 they were living in Llangwm. In 1861 Henry jr was a grocer's apprentice in H'west St. Mary.. spelling Roch. In 1871 he was married with 5 children, a retailer of wine and spirits in H'west...spelled Roach. In 1872 the family had emigrated to Bedminster, Somerset England, and from then on the spelling of the name is Roche. They had at least 8 more children born in England, and Henry's occupation is Commercial traveler, then in 1901 he is a "Hop & seed traveler". I don't think my family has had any contact with this branch since the early 1900s. Rachel Boyd CT, USA "Sanders, Bob (DECWL - BDD)" <Bob.Sanders@Wales.GSI.Gov.UK> wrote: I also have Roch/Roach family in Monmouthshire who eminated from Pembrokeshire. My great grandfather Henry Roch was master of Abercarn Works School in the 1860s. He was born at Sheerness, the son of Michael & Jane Roch/Roach. Michael was a shipwright in the RN dockyard, Pembroke Dock, but transferred temporarily to Sheerness in 1836/7 which is why Henry was born there. Henry trained as a teacher at Borough Rd., London and then after teaching in Pembroke Dock, Neath and Frampton Cotterel (where my grandma was born), he got the job at Abercarn. He died there of phthisis aged 36. His children continued to live in the Abercarn area and there are descendants in that area still, though my grandma married and lived in Cardiff most of her life. Any connections would be of interest. Bob Sanders

Barbara, The only place that I have found them is in Accrington, Lancs in 1881/91/1901. They are present with their family in all these returns, which has enabled me to discover their children's names. My grandfather, Alfred HUGHES, was their last-born in 1887. Sarah was born in Tredegar in August, 1844. Iain.

I also have Roch/Roach family in Monmouthshire who eminated from Pembrokeshire. My great grandfather Henry Roch was master of Abercarn Works School in the 1860s. He was born at Sheerness, the son of Michael & Jane Roch/Roach. Michael was a shipwright in the RN dockyard, Pembroke Dock, but transferred temporarily to Sheerness in 1836/7 which is why Henry was born there. Henry trained as a teacher at Borough Rd., London and then after teaching in Pembroke Dock, Neath and Frampton Cotterel (where my grandma was born), he got the job at Abercarn. He died there of phthisis aged 36. His children continued to live in the Abercarn area and there are descendants in that area still, though my grandma married and lived in Cardiff most of her life. Any connections would be of interest. Bob Sanders The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes. Cafodd fersiwn gwreiddiol y neges e-bost hon ei sganio gan wasanaeth gwrthfeirysau Mewnrwyd Ddiogel y Llywodraeth (GSI) a ddarparwyd gan Cable&Wireless mewn partneriaeth � MessageLabs. (Rhif Tystysgrif CCTM 2006/04/0007). Wrth adael y GSI nid oedd unrhyw feirws yn gysylltiedig ��r neges hon. Mae�n ddigon posibl y bydd unrhyw ohebiaeth drwy�r GSI yn cael ei logio, ei monitro a/neu ei chofnodi yn awtomatig am resymau cyfreithiol.

Hi , My grandfather was James Hughes b,1859 Llangattock Monmouthshire and l'm trying to find out if we are related to the Rees. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <IHPARSONS@aol.com> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:30 AM Subject: [MON] HUGHES and BENNETT interest > Good morning, list, > > I am seeking information about my great-grandparents. William HUGHES > was > born in November 1839, seemingly in Tredegar. There is no record of him > in > either the GRO births list nor in the IGI index. From his marriage > certificate > in 1864 at Siloh Chapel, Tredegar, I know that his father was also > William, > and he is shown as 'butcher, deceased'. > > His wife, Sarah BENNETT, was born in 1844 - I have her birth > certificate. She was the daughter of Daniel BENNETT and Mary (nee REES). > > For some strange reason, William seems to have also escaped the census > returns. There is a man on the 1871 census who might be him, but there is > no > trace before that in any of the preceding three censuses, something which > might give me more information about his immediate family. > > He and the other members of the Hughes family appear to be a brick > wall. > Can anyone help with a butcher called William Hughes in the immediate > area > of Tredegar? I have considered the possibility that he might not have > been > born in the town, but in some outlying village, but not being familiar > with the > area, I'm at a loss where to search next. > > TIA, > > Iain Parsons. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 > 3:52 PM > >

Would SKS help me to find Maria JONES and her two sons in the 1841 census please? The boys are: George Jones born c.1835 in Tidenham, Gloucestershire Edwin Jones born c.1836 in St. Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire According to future census Maria was born c.1808 in Tidenham, Gloucestershire. She married George JONES in 1834 in Chepstow Parish Church and they appear together living in Dolphin Street, Newport in 1851. My puzzle is that in 1841 I've found George JONES living in Commercial Wharf, Newport Docks, Newport 1841 Census of Monmouthshire HO107/751/5/5 Commercial Wharf, Newport Docks, Newport, Monmouthshire George Jones 30 Shipwright N Harriet Jones 30 N Harriet Jones 4 Y Eliza Jones 1 Y I wondered at first if the enumerator had made an error with Maria's name and written in Harriet but on searching further I found this entry in the IGI: Harriet Jones baptised 20 August 1837 in St. Woolas, Newport, Monmouthshire Parents: George & Harriet Jones It appears that they went their separate ways for a while but then became reunited. However, I've tried all different ways of finding Maria and the two boys in 1841 but so far have been unsuccessful and would appreciate any help please. Sue (Kent)