Dear List, I am new to this List and am hoping someone is connected to this family. Lawrence Alfred BAYLISS date of birth etc unknown [birth parents unknown] Married Annie GASTRELL at Newport Monmouth Mar ¼ 1910 Their daughter Phyliss born Sep¼ 1910 married a Jack MAIN and they had daughters Margaret and Elizabeth who could still be alive today. I would like to find out more about Lawrence BAYLISS and who his parents may have been. The only close entry I can find in 1891census is this entry. Alfred Baylis John, Elizabeth abt 1886 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Aberystruth Monmouthshire Anyone interested in this family please write. Regards Bev

Hello Bev, You would be able to find out fathers name by obtaining the marriage certificate of Lawrence, and also search the free BMD'S online for other details, with the marriage certificate that will give you his age so that you could pinpoint year of birth, and the fathers name which will assist you further in your research. The marriage as you say took place in Newport Registration District, address below. Newport Register Office 8 Gold Tops, Newport. South Wales. NP20 4PH UK TELEPHONE 01633 262330 Regards Barbara

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Hi Sue Glad to have been of help. How lucky you are to have the SAGE connection, it helps to clarify it. Good hunting!! Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Waller" <SueWaller@jfwaller.gotadsl.co.uk> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: [MON] James JONES & Elizabeth - Marriage c.1836 >I would like to thank Barbara and especially thank Dawn for kindly > looking up this marriage for me. Yes, I believe it is the correct one > as I also have William Sage Jones in my family. > > Sue (Kent) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: > 25/09/2007 08:02 > >

Hi List, Just joined up and I thought I would post the surnames I am researching from this area, ELLIS, Elizabeth, Elizabeth married twice, 1st Marriage (Richard)? WILLIAMS, 3 children to this marriage, Richard passed on bef 1913 2nd Marriage to Henry DAVIES, 7 children This family came from the Rhonda Valley area TROW, Stephen Married Harriet Beatrice VAUGHAN, 3? Children Francis Stephen TROW married Evelin May WILLIAMS, (Richard's daughter, from above) changed name to Trew Alfred J TROW married Emily Vera DAVIES (Henry's daughter, from above) Chrissie TROW/TREW The TROW family seems to come from Cwm area of Monmouthshire Would love to hear from anyone who has connections to this family Cheers Stefan Clive New Zealand

I would like to thank Barbara and especially thank Dawn for kindly looking up this marriage for me. Yes, I believe it is the correct one as I also have William Sage Jones in my family. Sue (Kent)

We are sorry to state, that the only son of the Rev. John JONES, Rector of Killie-Ayron, Cardiganshire, a promising youth of 14, was unhappily drowned last week while bathing in the river Towy, near Carmarthen. The son also of Mr BARRAR, painter of Monmouth, a boy about seven years old, amusing himself with gathering flowers on the bank of a fish-pond at that place, fell into the water, and no assistance being near, he unfortunately perished. On Thursday morning, as the brig Merchant Taylor, of St Ives, Edward JOHN, master, was sailing from Newport to Plymouth, laden with coals, she ran foul of the Caroline, Cork trader and stove in two of her waist planks, which occasioned the total loss of the Merchant Taylor; the captain and crew having only time to save themselves on the bowsprit of the Caroline, before she went down. We are sorry to say, the property was all the captain's, and not a sixpence insured. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

Hi Sue According to FOD Members area James JONES ba. OTP m. he signs Elizabeth RICKARDS sp. OTP she marks BANNS 21 OCT 1833 at Tidenham. Witnesses Mary RICKARDS William SAGE JONES Hope this is the right one. Regards Dawn dawn.cumbley@virgin.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Waller" <SueWaller@jfwaller.gotadsl.co.uk> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: [MON] James JONES & Elizabeth marriage Chepstow c.1836 > Hi everyone, > > I have James JONES and his wife Elizabeth living in Tidenham, > Gloucestershire in 1841 with their two children, the eldest being > Harriet aged 5 years old. Apparently Chepstow was their preferred place > to marry. > > If anyone has access to marriages which took place in Chepstow and could > look this couple's marriage up for me I would be very grateful. I can > reciprocate with all census entries for England and Wales. > > Many thanks, > > Sue (Kent) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: > 25/09/2007 08:02 > >

Hi everyone, I have James JONES and his wife Elizabeth living in Tidenham, Gloucestershire in 1841 with their two children, the eldest being Harriet aged 5 years old. Apparently Chepstow was their preferred place to marry. If anyone has access to marriages which took place in Chepstow and could look this couple's marriage up for me I would be very grateful. I can reciprocate with all census entries for England and Wales. Many thanks, Sue (Kent)

Hello Sue, Chepstow was the Registration District for some villages in Gloucestershire, so possibly they would have married in and around Tidenham Gloucestershire. Regards Barbara

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Maureen At first sight it looks as if there was only one David THOMAS birth registered in Pontypool district in 1841/42 - March quarter 1842 GRO ref 26 118 >From FreeBMD. I think Thomas THOMAS was March qr 1841 26 131 (might be 130) If Thomas was their first then a marriage in Abergavenny district March quarter 1840 might be relevant: Richard THOMAS on the same page as Mary LEWIS, Abergavenny 26 45 Possibly Bridgend in June qr 1839 or Merthyr Mar qr 1839 There were three deaths of a Richard THOMAS in Pontypool ditsrict 1841 to 1851, one in 1844 and two in June quarter 1848 on the same page, 26 112 So you might have David's mother re-marrying by 1851. Jeff

1841 Wales Census about Richard Thomas Name: Richard Thomas Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Trevethan Hundred: Abergavenny (Upper Division) County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: View Image Occupation: View Image No luck so far with 1851 but could this be the family in 1841 Registration district: Pontypool Sub-registration district: Pontypool Mary Thomas 25 not born in County Richard Thomas 25 shoe m not born in County Thomas Thomas 4 Mo born in County Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 744; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Trevethan; County: Monmouthshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 33; Page: 58; Line: 20; -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MJen512444@aol.com Sent: 25 September 2007 00:15 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [MON] David Thomas, son of Richard Thomas cordwainer. Hello list, I am having difficulty in locating my David Thomas, born in Pontypool c.1842, son of Richard Thomas, cordwainer. By the time that David Thomas married in 1868 Richard Thomas was deceased. I was not able to locate the family in 1851 although I did spend a neck aching few hours looking in the Gwent Record Office some years ago. I know that David Thomas eventually went to Merthyr Tydfil, but could not find any trace of his father on any census there. Perhaps I did not look hard enough. If anyone can help with the family in 1851 I would be grateful. Thank you, Maureen Rhondda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jeff, Thanks for that, I see you have the same process of working things out that I have. On top of that, my females are famous for remarrying after being widowed, all except my gran who thought the whole idea was abominable. But she did not mind telling me about the ones she knew about, including her own mother. I only wish she knew more about those further back. Still, a step at a time. So thank you profusely. Just to lighten the whole thing though. I am smiling at Thomas Thomas, because I have another enigma concerning a William Williams who also died before I could pin him down. And that was in Merthyr Tydfil. I am sure they will be found when they are ready to be found. Regards, Maureen

Hello, Whoever sent that information on the 1841 census. Thank you very much. It looks as if my David Thomas had an older brother Thomas Thomas. Of course, in 1841 my David could not have been born. It would be really funny if he was to arrive in April of 1842 as that would make exactly a hundred years between him and me. I don't suppose it will work out that way though. In the meantime, I now have something to work with anyway. So my heartfelt thanks for a breakthrough. Regards, Maureen

Thanks very much Steve. I believe I now have my John JONES Regards Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <steven.veysey@btinternet.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MON] John JONES > Hi Neil > > How about this in 1851? > 9 Brick Row, Trevethin. > John Jones Head 28 Baller of ??? Trevethin Mon > Rachell Jones Wife 22 Llanwenatrh Mon > Martha Jones Dau 3 Scholar Trevethin Mon > William jones Son 1 At home Trevethin Mon > Ann Thomas Relation 68 ??? > (possibly Dingestow) Mon > > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2449; Folio: 384; Page: 6; GSU roll: > 104188-104189. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of neiltaylor > Sent: 23 September 2007 19:24 > To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MON] John JONES > > I have for several years been researching John JONES born Trevethin circa > 1851. > > > > I definitely have him 6th March 1870 when he married Harriet Ann HAYMAN in > Llanvihangel Pontymoile, Monmouthshire. His age 20, Rank or Profession > Roller, Residence at the time of marriage is Abersychan, Fathers name John > JONES Rank or Profession, Baller. > > > > > In 1871 Census John, Harriet and daughter Emma are resident in Baptist > Chapel House, Trevethin. John's occupation is Bloomer. Born in Abersychan. > Age 21. > > > > On 3 Apr 1881 he was Assistant Rowler (Iron) in 9 Jameson St, Linthorpe, > Middlesbrough, Yorkshire. Born in Wales. Age 30. > > > > In 1891 Census John was a Steel Worker in 146, Union Street, > Middlesbrough. > Born in Abersychan, Monmouthshire. Age 39. > > > > And On 31 Mar 1901 he was a Steel Roller in 190, Newport Road, > Middlesbrough, Born in Monmouth. Trevethin. Age 48. > > > > Certificate of Entry of Death. John JONES died 25th May 1922 in > Middlesbrough. Steel Roller. Age 70. > > > > I have trawled 1851 and 1861 Census returns over and over and found > thousands of JONES' but have been unable to find John or his family. > > A week ago we received (from Australia) a suggested date of birth of 6th > October 1851 for our John, ordered and received the Birth Certificate to > find > > 6th October 1851. Born in British Works, Trevethin: John JONES son of John > JONES Occupation Baller, and Rachel formerly JONES > > > > Armed with this information which looks very, very right, I am still > unable > to find any trace of John or his family in 1851 or 1861. Any ideas Please? > > > > Regards > > > > Ernie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date: > 23/09/2007 > 13:53 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? Bristol, June1, 1810 NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout the kingdom in all this month. MILTIA ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every description are admitted. TERMS VIZ., 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, not exceeding Fifty Pounds. AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned to the so drawn subscribers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

Hello list, I am having difficulty in locating my David Thomas, born in Pontypool c.1842, son of Richard Thomas, cordwainer. By the time that David Thomas married in 1868 Richard Thomas was deceased. I was not able to locate the family in 1851 although I did spend a neck aching few hours looking in the Gwent Record Office some years ago. I know that David Thomas eventually went to Merthyr Tydfil, but could not find any trace of his father on any census there. Perhaps I did not look hard enough. If anyone can help with the family in 1851 I would be grateful. Thank you, Maureen Rhondda

Good afternoon, I cannot find my 3x Great Grandparents in either the 1891 or 1901 census' so I'm asking for lookup assistance. Hopefully they were still enjoying retirement during this time. John WILLIAMS and his wife Margaret, nee DAVIS, lived at 70 Plantation [Rd]., in Rhymney, Bedwellty, MON. I have been able to track the family in 1861, 1871 and 1881. They both were born in Carmarthenshire 1823; John on 7 September and Margaret on 10 April. There are many, many WILLIAM with their forenames in freebmd, so I have not yet been able to determine the dates of their deaths. I would appreciate any assistance. Robert _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907

See: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/BobSanders/GMILITIA.html for a "Short History" of the Glamorgan Militia and http://www.hertsfhs.org.uk/hfphs26.html for a general discussion of UK militia and ballots. The "ballot" sounds like what we in the US call a "draft". The is the same as the hiring of a "substitute" by my gg-uncle at the time of the US Civil War aka War Between the States. The overall scheme described sounds like a lottery; you got the money of you were inducted into the militia. It would compensate for loss of income while in service or allow you the funds to buy a substitute. A footnote about the gg-uncle. His substitute was killed in action and he supported the substitute's widow and family. I gather this was unusual. My great-grandfather did not let this lessen his disapproval of the substitution. Bill Evans Lyn Nunn wrote: > I am not quite sure what this is about - if anyone can explain I'd > appreciate it. I am thinking it is a kind of insurance? > > > > Bristol, June1, 1810 > > NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC > > The Balloting for the Old Militia for some of the Counties commenced this > day (the 1st of June, 1810), and it is presumed will be general throughout > the kingdom in all this month. > > MILTIA > > ALL the men of ENGLAND and WALES, subject to the approaching MILITIA BALLOT, > are most respectfully informed that they have an opportunity of becoming > MEMBERS of an INSTITUTION, established in BRISTOL called > > THE UNION MILITIA CLUB of England and Wales, in which persons of every > description are admitted. > > TERMS VIZ., > > 1st. A Subscription of HALF-A-GUINEA will entitle each Person drawn to serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Twelve Pounds Ten Shillings. > > 2d. A Subscription of ONE GUINEA will entitle each Person so drawn to serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Twenty-five Pounds. > > 3d. A Subscription of TWO GUINEAS will entitle each Person so drawn to serve > and Enrolled, or by Substitute, to a proportion of the Funds of this Club, > not exceeding Fifty Pounds. > > AGENTS in all the principal towns in ENGLAND and WALES are appointed to > receive Subscriptions for all the Counties in the Kingdom, for which they > will give each member so entering a Memorandum of receiving such > Subscriptions, which will be transmitted to the Head Office, the Assembly > Coffee-house, on the Quay, Bristol, for numerical arrangement, when > Certificates will be immediately forwarded by first conveyance, and for > which One shilling is to be paid to the Secretary. > > A. ABBOTT Administratrix to (J.K. ABOOTT, Head Office, the Assembly > Coffee-house on the Quay, Bristol) Secretary: WHO HAS APPOINTED Messrs. > STUCKEY. LEAN, HART and MANINGFORD, Bankers, Bristol, Treasurers. > > N.B. The Directors of this Institution consider it necessary to observe that > though they do not pledge themselves to pay the several Members of this > establishment, who may be enrolled, the full sums of Twelve Pounds Ten > Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds, but only a proportion of > the funds of the said Club, but they feel great pleasure in stating that, > from the general received opinion of the success already obtained (being > convinced that numbers secure the undertaking), have induced them to extend > the boundaries of this Institution contrary to the practice of former years, > that by such augmentation they have no doubt but the full sums of Twelve > Pounds Ten Shillings, Twenty-five Pounds, and Fifty Pounds will be paid to > the enrolled, and also a considerable division of the Subscription returned > to the so drawn subscribers. > > > > Lyn Nunn > > Brisbane > > Australia > > > >