Thank you Net Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Net Ambler" <net.ambler@btinternet.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > No picture. But this does give some info on where the building stood. > > http://www.blaenau-gwent.gov.uk/8062.asp > > Net > > -----Original Message----- > From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Little Warren > Farm > Sent: 03 October 2007 11:34 > To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > > Dear List, > > I wonder if anyone has a photograph or sketch print of the Black Prince > Inn > who would be willing to send me a copy? > > thank you > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Little Warren Farm" <littlewarrenfarm@btinternet.com> > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > > >> Hi Barbara, >> >> I believe that the Tredegar Library is now on the site of the old Black >> Prince Inn. >> >> Diana >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <B1oatley@aol.com> >> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar >> >> >>> Hi Jeff, >>> I am not 100% sure but I think it may have been re-named something else, >>> there are a few Pubs/Inns/Hotels around the circle but none called the >>> Black >>> Prince in present day. >>> Regards Barbara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

No picture. But this does give some info on where the building stood. http://www.blaenau-gwent.gov.uk/8062.asp Net -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Little Warren Farm Sent: 03 October 2007 11:34 To: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar Dear List, I wonder if anyone has a photograph or sketch print of the Black Prince Inn who would be willing to send me a copy? thank you Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little Warren Farm" <littlewarrenfarm@btinternet.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > Hi Barbara, > > I believe that the Tredegar Library is now on the site of the old Black > Prince Inn. > > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <B1oatley@aol.com> > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > > >> Hi Jeff, >> I am not 100% sure but I think it may have been re-named something else, >> there are a few Pubs/Inns/Hotels around the circle but none called the >> Black >> Prince in present day. >> Regards Barbara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, I wonder if anyone has a photograph or sketch print of the Black Prince Inn who would be willing to send me a copy? thank you Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little Warren Farm" <littlewarrenfarm@btinternet.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > Hi Barbara, > > I believe that the Tredegar Library is now on the site of the old Black > Prince Inn. > > Diana > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <B1oatley@aol.com> > To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > > >> Hi Jeff, >> I am not 100% sure but I think it may have been re-named something else, >> there are a few Pubs/Inns/Hotels around the circle but none called the >> Black >> Prince in present day. >> Regards Barbara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Barbara, I believe that the Tredegar Library is now on the site of the old Black Prince Inn. Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: <B1oatley@aol.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > Hi Jeff, > I am not 100% sure but I think it may have been re-named something else, > there are a few Pubs/Inns/Hotels around the circle but none called the > Black > Prince in present day. > Regards Barbara > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a strong suspicion the 'Black Prince' is still there on the circle surrounding the clock tower in Tredegar. Jeff

Dear Barbara, thank you for your reply. I will send for the certificate as I agree this is the only way to be absolutely sure but I think it is the correct pairing as I cross checked the other people on the page. Also in the 1881 census they are at the Black Prince Inn, Circle, Tredegar and in the 1891 census at 3 Morgan St. Tredegar which I think is the address of the Black Prince as well. Phoebe nee Jenkins is the daughter of my great x 2 grandfather Isaac Jenkins 1811 Bedwelty and great x 3 grandfather Richard Jenkins of the Black Prince Inn, Tredegar 1776 - 1843. In the 1861 census of Llanfoist Phoebe Jenkins is living with her sister Agnes (my great grandmother) and their Uncle Thomas Jenkins and Aunt Marianne nee Mainwaring (daughter of Samuel Mainwaring, Governor of Crickhowell workhouse) as their father Isaac died in 1854 and their mother Elizabeth died in 1860. There is another sister who survived called Eliza Ann(1841 Tredegar) and I think that she married William Holder of Gloucestershire. Phoebe Hodge died April - June 1889 aged 44 which is also the correct age for Phoebe nee Jenkins. I have recently been coming forward rather than backwards! If this is of any help to anyone then do contact me. with best wishes Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: <B1oatley@aol.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MON] George Thomas Hodge of Tredegar > Hello Diana, > I have no connection to your Ancestry but on the 1871 Census George Thomas > Hodge was married and living with wife named Phoebe in Ebbw Vale, no other > person was listed, also found them in 1881 living in Tredegar and George > Thomas > Hodge in 1891 was a widower. I did find a marriage in 1870 for George > Thomas > Hodge and on the same page was a Phoebe Jenkins but to verify this you > would > need to obtain either the marriage certificate or a birth cerificate of > one > of the children. > Regards Barbara > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jeff, I am not 100% sure but I think it may have been re-named something else, there are a few Pubs/Inns/Hotels around the circle but none called the Black Prince in present day. Regards Barbara

Dear list, Is anyone following William Holder c 1830 born Cleeve Gloucestershire. On the 1871 census he is at 31 Iron St. Monmouth with his wife Eliza Ann c 1840 Bedwelty, Amelia J.D. Holder c1863 born Beckford, Glos, William c1868 born Lea, Hereford and Edith 1871 born Bedwelty. Diana

Dear List, Is anyone following a George Thomas Hodge c 1843 born Monmouth who in 1891 was at 3 Morgan St., Tredegar with children Reginal T. c 1872 born Ebbw Vale, Betram C c1878 born Tredegar and Hilda P.c 1880 born Tredegar I believe that George Thomas Hodge married Phoebe Jenkins in 1870. Diana

Hello Diana, I have no connection to your Ancestry but on the 1871 Census George Thomas Hodge was married and living with wife named Phoebe in Ebbw Vale, no other person was listed, also found them in 1881 living in Tredegar and George Thomas Hodge in 1891 was a widower. I did find a marriage in 1870 for George Thomas Hodge and on the same page was a Phoebe Jenkins but to verify this you would need to obtain either the marriage certificate or a birth cerificate of one of the children. Regards Barbara

Dear List, Does anyone know the family of Theophilus Rosser Jones? According to the baptism of his base daughter Bithiah on the 13th December 1819 he was an agent. He married Bithiah's mother Mary Williams of Cadoxton, Glam from the marriage licence dated 15th December 1820. Theophilus was a widow on the marriage to Mary. I believe he was an underground surveyor from the 1881 census where his widow says that she is an underground agents widow. I have googled Theophilus Rosser Jones and the only one that comes up is one who was convicted for extortion at Brecon Assizes on 22nd March 1834 and sentenced to 14 years and transportation on the William Metcalf to Van Diemens Land. He is listed as being on the prisonship William Metcalf. He was transported on the 23rd May 1834. I downloaded his will from the National Archives. The will, dated 6th May 1851, amongst other things mentions David Marsden son of Jonathon Marsden of Llanfair Mines, Montg. who married Eliza Jenkins bapt 21/5/1817 at Bedwelty on 15th October 1838. Eliza Jenkins was the daughter of Richard Jenkins 1776 - 1843 of the Black Prince Inn (amongst others). I know therefore that I have the correct will. I can find no death for him in Bedwelty or Tredegar around 1851. His will shows that he left a considerable amount of goods and property. There are plenty of Theophilus Jones around but not Theophilus Rosser Jones and that is the name on all the information that I have. I cannot believe that there are two Theophilus Rosser Jones in Bedwelty at the same time - does anyone know anything different please? thank you Diana

Hello Hugh, Thank you for your interest. I would love to get the certificate out of interest but as this is a branch of the family I was really hoping that some other person had already traced Annie. I guess I am stuck until I do get a certificate. Regards Bev

Dear Listers, Many apologies for the fact that you've now received two versions of my regular 'Retrospective Images of Wales' announcement. To save time, I addressed the version whose header I've copied below, to multiple recipients but RootsWeb's list servers have taken 2½ days to distribute them. An example of the old adage "More haste, less speed"! Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ball" <john@jlb2005.plus.com> To: "BlaenauGwent List" <blaenaugwent@rootsweb.com>; "Dyfed List" <dyfed@rootsweb.com>; "Glamorgan List" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com>; "Midmarch List" <midmarch@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Mon List" <Monmouthshire@rootsweb.com>; "Powys List" <powys@rootsweb.com>; <MonmouthshireGwent@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: Pictures of: Nantyglo (MON);and Dan-y-graig Cemetery, Swansea (GLA)

Andrea Knowles wrote: > Can anyone help? I am looking for a David John WILLIAMS who married a Mary Ann JONES in Bedwelty Parish Church in 1906. They had a daughter Bronwen May Williams in 1908. After this I loose David - in 1917 Mary Ann marries an Edwin Hall in bedwwlty. What happened to David John Williams - family members say he dissapeared 'off the face of the earth' !! but I suspect that this is a cover up as Mary Ann had two children born in 1913 and 1914 registed as Hall's but at the time i suspect that she was still married to David John Williams. > > Andrea > Merseyside. > G'day Andrea Have you looked at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission web site. There are a possible 11 candidates for your "disappeared off the face of the earth", some literally. As for the children, Hall may have accepted them as his and adopted them. The adoption of children may have led them to having a different birth certificate issued after the adoption. I don't know if adoption certificates would have the original date of birth of the adoptee but I am willing to find out if anyone knows. Regards Ray Lewis Hazelmere Western Australia name interests Monmouthshire: Benjamin; Davies; Jones; Lewis

Until the 1920s there was no such thing as legal adoption in this country (UK) so there would not be a certificate or anything. Ann Macey in dull and cloudy Newport Gwent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Lewis" <harveyjl@iinet.net.au> .The adoption of children may have led them > to having a different birth certificate issued after the adoption. I > don't know if adoption certificates would have the original date of > birth of the adoptee but I am willing to find out if anyone knows. > > Regards > Ray Lewis > Hazelmere Western Australia > > name interests Monmouthshire: Benjamin; Davies; Jones; Lewis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

try http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Marriages Mar 1910 BAYLISS Laurence Alfred Newport M 11a 375 GASTRELL Annie Newport M 11a 375 NB spelling !! then http://ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx Laurence A BAYLISS at least two of these or http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx unwise to go further with out a copy of the marriage certificate Hugh W On 28/09/2007, Bev <beverley@yourisp.com.au> wrote: > Dear List, > > I am new to this List and am hoping someone is connected to this family. > > Lawrence Alfred BAYLISS date of birth etc unknown [birth parents unknown] > Married Annie GASTRELL > at Newport Monmouth Mar ¼ 1910 > Their daughter Phyliss born Sep¼ 1910 married a Jack MAIN and they had daughters Margaret and Elizabeth who could still be alive today. > I would like to find out more about Lawrence BAYLISS and who his parents may have been. > > The only close entry I can find in 1891census is this entry. > > Alfred Baylis John, > Elizabeth abt 1886 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Aberystruth Monmouthshire > > Anyone interested in this family please write. > > Regards > Bev > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Can anyone help? I am looking for a David John WILLIAMS who married a Mary Ann JONES in Bedwelty Parish Church in 1906. They had a daughter Bronwen May Williams in 1908. After this I loose David - in 1917 Mary Ann marries an Edwin Hall in bedwwlty. What happened to David John Williams - family members say he dissapeared 'off the face of the earth' !! but I suspect that this is a cover up as Mary Ann had two children born in 1913 and 1914 registed as Hall's but at the time i suspect that she was still married to David John Williams. Andrea Merseyside. --

Can anyone help with the following family please: I am trying to find anything about the family of David Morgans (c1810) who married Ann ? (c1811 Cmn Llandovery and they had children, Margaret c1837) , David c1939) , Roda (c1844) and Hannah (c1850) . I think Margaret may have married a Richard Lisle. I found a possible Ann found boarding with the West family. This ties up with her son David who was living in 3 Polar Place and her place of birth, although not substantiated yet. 1881 Census Dwelling: 8 Polar Place Census Place: Bedwellty, Monmouth, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342262 PRO Ref RG1 Piece 5243 Folio 31 Page 29 Ann MORGAN W 71 F Llandovery, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Boarder Occ: Neddle Woman (Seamstress) Jacob WEST M 37 M Tredegar, Monmouth, England David (1839) married a Catherine Rees and had children also named David, Hannah, John and Nathaniel. I found them on the 1851 census living at Bethel Court Morgans David Hd M 41 Puddler, Merthyr Tydfil (c1810) Ann Morgans W M 40 Cmn Llandovery (c1811) Morgans Margaret Du U 14 Mon, Nantyglo (c1837) Morgans David So U 12 Mine Doorboy, Mon Penycae (Ebbw Vale) (c1839) Morgans Roda Du U 7 Mon Penycae (Ebbw Vale) (c1844) Morgans Hannah Du U 1 Bre (Mon) Rhymney (c1850) If anyone has the 1861,1871 census and could see if there is a David Morgans, wife Ann with above children it would be much appreciated as I am trying to find out where they were living then and when David senior died. Any help much appreciated. Diane

Pictures of: Nantyglo (MON); and Dan-y-graig Cemetery, Swansea (GLA) Dear Listers, This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my website, include: 1. Scenes in the former mining village of Nantyglo in the county of Monmouthshire (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1999. 2. The extensive Victorian Dan-y-graig Cemetery in Swansea, county of Glamorgan (eight pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in August 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Pictures of: Nantyglo (MON); and Dan-y-graig Cemetery, Swansea (GLA) Dear Listers, This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, just uploaded onto my website, include: 1. Scenes in the former mining village of Nantyglo in the county of Monmouthshire (seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1999. 2. The extensive Victorian Dan-y-graig Cemetery in Swansea, county of Glamorgan (eight pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in August 1998. As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists