Hi, I'm just posting my main interest which is the EDMUNDS family in the Mynyiddislwyn area c. 1770 to 1850. Common names common are John, Edmund, Thomas, William, Daniel. There are marriage connections to the WATTERS,WATERS, PHILLIPS, DAVIES,and THOMAS families. Any help would be appreciated. Regards. Ray Edmunds

NEWPORT-MONMOUTHSHIRE, TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, by Mr. LUNTLEY. On Thursday, April 14th, 1814, and the two following days, by the order of the Assignees of Messrs. ETHERIDGE and TIBBINS, Booksellers and Printers, at their Dwelling-house in Newport, at eleven o'clock. The valuable CIRCULATING LIBRARY, books on Sale, Bookbinders' and Printers' utensils, Musical Instruments, fine tuned Violins, Clarinets, Flutes, Printed Music, two sets of Dr Clark's Handel, early impression, Stationary, Watches, Jewellery; Perfumery, Patent Medicines, and other effects. Printed Catalogues may be had on the premises, at Newport, and the stock viewed two days preceding, and on the morning of the sale. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

Good Morning, I cannot find my 3x Great Grandparents in either the 1891 or 1901 census' so I'm asking for lookup assistance.John WILLIAMS and his wife Margaret, nee DAVIS, lived at 70 Plantation [St]., in Rhymney, Bedwellty, MON and I have been able to track the family in 1861, 1871 and 1881. 1881 70 Plantation Street, Bedwellty John Head 56 c. 1825 Carmarthen, [CMN] Iron worker Margaret Wife 56 c. 1825 same Mary Dau. 33 c. 1848 same Laundry Maid Daniel Son 19 c. 1862 Rhymney, [MON] Iron Worker Sarah Dau. 15 c. 1866 same Dom. Serv. Margaret J. Dau. 13 c. 1868 same same Ruth Dau. 2 c. 1879 same There are many, many WILLIAM with their same forenames in freebmd, so I have not yet been able to determine the dates of passing for either John and Margarets.I would appreciate any assistance. Best wishes, Robert _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline

Any relation to a Hesther Williams b;15 Apr.1754,father Herbert mother Anne. According to Llantillio Crossenny Baptisim 1696-1784. They were my grrrr-grandparents. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Macey" <annmacey@ntlworld.com> To: <monmouthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [MON] Researching WILLIAMS > Hi Diane, I took a little look at a couple of sources for you > > 1871 census > RG10/ 5295 Folio 70 page 2 Enumeration District 8 > Mill House, trellech grange. > Thomas Williams Head Married age 38 Labourer born Mon Trellech > Harriet Williams Wife Married age 46 Labourer's Wife born Mon Trellech > James Williams Son age 15 born Mon Trellech > Ann Williams Dau age 12 born Mon Trellech > John Williams Son age 11 born Mon Trellech > Tom Williams Son age 7 born Mon Trellech > > on the next page > RG10/ 5295 Folio 71 Page 3 Enumeration District 8 > Mill HOuse Trellech Grange > Mary Williams Dau age 5 born Mon Trellech > Lucy Williams Dau age 1 born MOn Trellech > > 1861 > RG9/ 3990 Folio 23 page 11 > Trellech Grange Cottage > Thomas Williams Head Married age 30 Ag Lab born Mon Trellech > Harriet Williams Wife Married age 33 born Mon Trellech > James Williams Son age 6 scholar born Mon Trellech > Ann Williams Dau age 2 born Mon Trellech > John Williams Son age 1 month born Mon Trellech > > On the 1851 Census I found a Thomas Williams as a visitor - here is the > reference > > HO107/ 2445 Folio76 page 6 ED5a > Higga Trellech > William Williams Head Married age 30 Wood Cutter born Mon Trellech > Elizabeth Williams Wife Married age 28 born Mon Trellech > John Williams son age 2 born Mon Trellech > George Williams Brother age 19 Lodger Born Mon Trellech > Thomas Williams Visitor age 19 ag lab born Mon Trellech > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1066 - Release Date: > 10/12/2007 11:10 AM > >

Dear Linda According to the census for 1851 your James Bond seems to have been born in Hampshire, place unspecified. I can't find him in any other year, but there's another Mary who married another James Bond in the same village and he came from Staffordshire. Do you know which is which? Robert -----Original Message----- From: monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Kent-Taylor I thought I would try again with my interests as I have some to complete standstill BOND James(1805) and Mary (Davies 1805) >From Llanwenarth Ultra

I thought I would try again with my interests as I have some to complete standstill BOND James(1805) and Mary (Davies 1805) BOND John (1845) and Sarah (Aubrey 1847) >From Llanwenarth Ultra AUBREY Thomas and Anne(Lewis) AUBREY Thomas and Anne (Thomas) 1800 Linda

Hi Ann Many thanks for the census information, much appreciated. On looking at these census my Elizabeth could be Ann as she is down on daughter Nellie's birth certificate as Elizabeth Ann! At least this has given me something new to work on for which again many thanks. Regards Diane

Pictures of: Fan Gyhirych, Brecon Beacons (BRE); and Llangyfelach Parish (GLA) Dear Listers, This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' webpages, uploaded yesterday onto my website, include: 1. The snow-topped peak Fan Gyhirych in the Brecon Beacons mountain range in the county of Breconshire (one picture). This feature was one of the first shown on 'Images of Wales' back in December 1997, but it has never before been selected as a Retrospective. 2. A two-page study of the ancient parish of Llangyfelach, on the norther aspect of Swansea in the county of Glamorgan (seventeen pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in September 2004. As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week. 'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm While there, take the time to explore my 'Webpage Archive' and make your own Retrospective requests. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Godre'r Graig, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists

Hi Diane, I took a little look at a couple of sources for you 1871 census RG10/ 5295 Folio 70 page 2 Enumeration District 8 Mill House, trellech grange. Thomas Williams Head Married age 38 Labourer born Mon Trellech Harriet Williams Wife Married age 46 Labourer's Wife born Mon Trellech James Williams Son age 15 born Mon Trellech Ann Williams Dau age 12 born Mon Trellech John Williams Son age 11 born Mon Trellech Tom Williams Son age 7 born Mon Trellech on the next page RG10/ 5295 Folio 71 Page 3 Enumeration District 8 Mill HOuse Trellech Grange Mary Williams Dau age 5 born Mon Trellech Lucy Williams Dau age 1 born MOn Trellech 1861 RG9/ 3990 Folio 23 page 11 Trellech Grange Cottage Thomas Williams Head Married age 30 Ag Lab born Mon Trellech Harriet Williams Wife Married age 33 born Mon Trellech James Williams Son age 6 scholar born Mon Trellech Ann Williams Dau age 2 born Mon Trellech John Williams Son age 1 month born Mon Trellech On the 1851 Census I found a Thomas Williams as a visitor - here is the reference HO107/ 2445 Folio76 page 6 ED5a Higga Trellech William Williams Head Married age 30 Wood Cutter born Mon Trellech Elizabeth Williams Wife Married age 28 born Mon Trellech John Williams son age 2 born Mon Trellech George Williams Brother age 19 Lodger Born Mon Trellech Thomas Williams Visitor age 19 ag lab born Mon Trellech

So he lied about his age when he got married, perhaps he didn't want anyone thinking that he was "cradle-snatching if he was really ten years older than his bride. I would obtain his birth certificate before making any definite decisions about his age. Ann Macey List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Hale" <diresearch@talktalk.net> > > However I found a marriage certificate for James Williams and Amelia > George in 1894 which ties up with the ages of the children but on the > certificate it gives James as being 31 (ie b1863) and Amelia 25 (ie > b1869).

FREEHOLD MANOR and ESTATES, MONMOUTHSHIRE In the middle of the ensuing month of May will be offered for SALE by PUBLIC AUCTION, in lots, at Newport, and of which timely notice will be given. PART of the ESTATES in this county of the late ROBERT HUNTER, Esquire, deceased; consisting of the HONOUR MANOR, or LORDSHIP of CAERLEON CUM NETHERWENT, with it Rights, Royalties, Rents, &c. the Market-house Tolls and Duties of Fairs and Markets in the town of Caerleon, and sundry capital FARMS in the several parishes of Christchurch, Wilerick, Caerleon, and Llangattock, known by the names of the Red Barn, Panteous, and Bearhouse Farms. The Merches, the Forge Lands, and Orchard, the Mill Meadow and Angel Piece, containing together (exclusive of the Manor) about 400 Acres of excellent Arable, Meadow, Pasture, and Wood Land. N.B. The above Farms will be sold in separate lots to be hereafter specified. The Meadows neat the town of Caerleon will be divided into small lots to suit the convenience of the inhabitants. And about the end of the ensuing month of May, will also be offered for SALE by PUBLIC AUCTION, in one lot, in London, of the time and place of sale early notice will be given. The Remainder of the ESTATES in the said county, of the late Robert HUNTER. Esq. deceased, consisting of the capital FARMS and WOOD, called the St. Julian’s, Llanllecha, Duckpool, and Steps Farms, and St Julian’s Wood, situate in the parish of Christchurch, aforesaid, containing about 653 Acres of excellent Arable, Meadow, Pasture, and Wood Land; and a valuable Fishery adjoining thereto, in the river Usk, now let to Messrs. JONES and Co. at the yearly rent of £63. The last-mentioned Farms and Wood are n a ring-fence, and form one of the most beautiful and desirable Estates in the county, bounded on the north by the Usk, and on the south by the turnpike-road from Cardiff to Bristol; and are let on leases of 21 years, expiring in 1816 and 1817, at the low annual rent of £632 12s (exclusive of St Julian’s Wood of 132 Acres which is in hand). Printed particulars and conditions of sale will be ready for delivery early in April, 1814 and may be then had of Mr. PROTHEROE, Solicitor, Newport, at the chief Inns in the neighbourhood and adjoining counties; at the Auction Mart, near the Bank of England; and of Mr. Maurice THOMAS, Solicitor, New Boswell-court, Lincoln’s-inn, London, where, and at Mr. PROTHEROE’s Office, Plans of the Estates may be seen. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

East Monmouth Local Militia Tuesday s'ennight having been appointed for the assembling of the above corps, at Monmouth, to take the sense of the regiment respecting the extension of their service to Government at this important period, the whole arrived there in the course of that day. On Wednesday they met at the field, when Major-General MOLYNEAUX, their commanding officer, explained to them the motives for which they were called together, and required them to express their wishes whether or not they were willing to accede to the proposals of his Majesty's Ministers. We are happy to state, that 400 fine fellows declared their readiness to step forward by hand and repeated huzzas. They afterwards paraded the town with colours and military music, as proof of their cordial desire to co-operate with other corps for the general good of the kingdom. In the evening, copious libations were offered o he success of our brave army and its allies on the Continent; and on Thursday they all peaceably returned home. The sums which have been paid by the clerks of sub-division meetings of Lieutenancy, in England, into the Bank, on account of fines for the Local Militia, already amount to 182.663d. 11s. this sum has been applied to the general purposes of the Local Militia, in diminution of the ? required for that service. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

Can anyone help me with the following family please as I have hit a brick wall - so what's new everyone asks!!! >From information on the 1901 census I have James Willliams (46) living at 21 Riverside, Maindee Newport along with wife Amelia (33) and children Nellie 6, Amelia 4 and Thomas 1 + Nellie F Richardson, niece aged 11 and I know this to be the correct family as Nellie was sent to live with her mother's family after her death However I found a marriage certificate for James Williams and Amelia George in 1894 which ties up with the ages of the children but on the certificate it gives James as being 31 (ie b1863) and Amelia 25 (ie b1869). Amelia's I can understand as that is about 2 years different from what I had worked out but James' age should have been 39/40! James's father is down as being Thomas Williams, farmer deceased. I am looking for James and Harriet in the 1871 census to see if there is another child Elizabeth on this census as she is the mother of Nellie Florence, niece aged 11. I think she would have been older than James. There is a more obvious connection to this family in that Nellie Florence also had the christian name of Church - ie Nellie Florence Church Richardson and the first child of James and Amelia is Nellie Church Williams. If anyone can help with this census I would be most grateful. Many thanks, Diane 1881 Census Dwelling: Cottage Census Place: Trellech Grange, Monmouth, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342258 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5220 Folio 40 Page 5 Thomas WILLIAMS M 53 M Trellech, Monmouth, England Rel: Head Occ: Laborer (Gen) Harriet WILLIAMS M 55 F Trellech, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife James WILLIAMS U 26 M Trellech, Monmouth, England Rel: Son Occ: Laborer (Gen) John WILLIAMS U 21 M Trellech, Monmouth, England Rel: Son Occ: Laborer (Gen) Thomas WILLIAMS U 17 M Trellech, Monmouth, England Rel: Son Occ: Laborer Gen Lucy WILLIAMS U 11 F Trellech Grange, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar

I would like to send a big thank you to JEFF COLEMAN and HUGH WATSON for the information and the site they sent . Really helped to find the location,which I hope to visit some day soon Thanks again Grace

thank you because I know where I was going I got to Thorn Croft by a double click :- http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55120&sheetid=4017&ox=0&oy=0&zm=1&czm=10&x=492&y=305 which shows exactly what I wanted the OP to see and nicely matches the "L" shaped building on the google maps image regards Hugh W On 12/10/2007, Jeff Coleman <jeff.coleman@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Given your comments on old-maps web site, have you tried > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/map.asp ? > > Jeff > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Given your comments on old-maps web site, have you tried http://www.british-history.ac.uk/map.asp ? Jeff

I start with http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/census/uk/default.aspx and keyword(s) Lower Landscheme Thorncroft http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8059&path=Monmouthshire.Monmouth.ALL.1.3 so by the Priory Farm Hereford Road http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8059&iid=MONRG11_5224_5229-0882 is the Description of the District today Osbaston Infant School, Monmouthshire LEA: Monmouthshire Telephone Number: 01600 712901 Fax Number: Address: Osbaston Road Monmouth Monmouthshire Post Code: NP25 3AX gives a clue Osbaston Monmouth, Gwent UK http://maps.google.com/maps?num=100&hl=en&q=Osbaston,+Monmouth,+Gwent,+United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,51.823305,-2.721066&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=51.576045,100.019531&ll=51.82304,-2.711327&spn=0.00496,0.012209&t=h&z=17&om=1 show hereford Road and Priory Lane leading to a farm so Thorncroft was a group of houses or a row of cottages close by http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familyalbum/ ROYAL MONMOUTHSHIRE ENGINEER MILITIA Head Quarters, The Castle. Lieut.-Col. W. E. C. Curre, C.E. (hon. col.) Majors The Lord Raglan (hon. lieut.-col.) Major The Hon. G. W. R. Somerset (hon. lieut.-col.) Adjutant, Captain H. Bland Instructor of Musketry, Capt. R. J. S. Price Quartermaster, Lieut. W. J. Shute Civil Medical Officer in charge, T. G. Prosser is what one of the neighbours was in ======== KELLY'S DIRECTORY OF MONMOUTHSHIRE 1901 The Monmouth Hospital and Dispensary in St. James's square, was opened in 1868, and has nine beds; during the Year 1899, 69 inpatients were received, also 1,072 Outpatients were treated. In 1900 a large plot of ground, situated on the Hereford road, was acquired through the kindness of the Duke of Beaufort, and a new hospital and dispensary are now in course of erection. Beaufort estate records may be worth searching Lewis Albert A. farmer, Priory farm, Hereford road http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familyalbum/kmon6.htm in 1901 http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7815&iid=MONRG13_4923_4928-0008 the Knoll then Priory Farm Upper Osbaston (Thorneycroft) http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7815&path=Monmouthshire.Monmouth.ALL.1.6 lastly http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ NP25 3AX has gone commercial and is not so useful 1892 map shows Thorn Croft over Prospect Villas 350600, 214200 http://maps.google.com/maps?num=100&hl=en&q=Osbaston++monmouth&ie=UTF8&ll=51.824625,-2.716327&spn=0.00124,0.003052&t=h&z=19&om=1 probably the house with the large drive in or close to it the old Map shows it on Prospect Road enjoy Hugh W On 11/10/2007, Wilfred & Grace Walsh <wgwalsh@shaw.ca> wrote: > Help needed.....looking for location of Thorncroft in Monmouth, we > know Henry Peill Family lived there in 1881 to 1891,address on 1881 > census is Lower Landscheme Thorncroft. On the 1891 census adjoining > property is Prospect Cottage and Prevy??Farm and ---ston Estate. > Any information or picture would be greatly appreciated. Thank you > Grace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks main blog GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

DIED Yesterday morning, Mr. LEYSON, of the Hill, near Neath; most respected and regretted. On the 29th ult., aged 37, Mr. David REES, publican, of Llanddo. At Limpstone, where she had gone for the recovery of her health, Elizabeth, wife of Dr. DAUBENY, London, and daughter of the late F. FORTUNE, Esq. of Haverfordwest. At Knighton, Radnorshire, Mrs. Margaret FARMER, a maiden lady, aged 77. In London, aged 25, Mr. John DAVIES, third son of the Rev. Thomas DAVIES, Rector of Llanderfel, Bala. On Wednesday, at Abergavenny, Mr Wm. LEWIS, formerly a respectable cabinet-maker of that place. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia

Help needed.....looking for location of Thorncroft in Monmouth, we know Henry Peill Family lived there in 1881 to 1891,address on 1881 census is Lower Landscheme Thorncroft. On the 1891 census adjoining property is Prospect Cottage and Prevy??Farm and ---ston Estate. Any information or picture would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Grace

IN THE PRESS, And will be published on Monday the 15th. Inst. Price One Shilling, A LETTER to J.H. MOGGBRIDGE, Esq. of Lanrumney, Monmouthshire, and late of Dymock Gloucestershire; containing an Exposition of an Agreement for a Lease granted by him to the Author, and subsequent conduct thereon; cursory Remarks on his late Pamphlet, entitled "Thoughts on the Causes of the present Difficulties and Internal Distresses of the Country" &c. &c. and Observations on his Political Conduct at the last General Election for the County of Monmouth, by Peter LAUDER. "Mark how plain a tale shall put him down." Cardiff, printed by John TIBBINS, and to be had of all Booksellers. Lyn Nunn Brisbane Australia